Smurfin's Refining Simulator for PW

[Interest07]

The odds posted in the thread were taken from either a client or server, I forget which. But it would be quite expensive to test whether the values are correct

[kulas2k2]

on ph servers, i dont know how much it would cost now but i think it would go @ $50 DragonOrb 6-12 . package deal. =P ..

there are lots of illegal trading on pw-ph , the guy selling those orbs, refine a level 1 Weapon up to +12, just to prove that he got plenty of 6-12 orbs

[Smurfin]

then things random like this can't really be predicted, every refine session differs everytime for everyone, guess I'll just wait until I have nirvana gears later than spending more money for transferring the refines. I'll just be happy now with +3 to +5 for armors

there are a lot of trading on pw-id as well, without the illegal label, all trading is just trading .
Why does he sell the orbs and not use them on their own other gears risking no one would buy it since anyone can make it if they have the money ?

here in pw-id, it's common for ppl selling not the orbs, but an item already refined, most popular are +7 to +9

[Smurfin]

to anyone playing in different PW servers such as PWI, PW-BR, PW-PH, PW-MY, PW-CN, etc, do you guys have these items available in cash shop permanently or occassionally like lucky pack ? and how much is it in us$

just curious, looks like our publisher here is too greedy and ban some items that really help us players in getting refines cheaper.


Dragon's Fire Packs,
True Gem Socket Packs,

[Sᴡoosh]

PWI is no better, they are greedy arses to. Dont bother.
I advise to go looking for a p2p game

Cheers

[Smurfin]

but in PWI they often give discounts in many-percents-off like 30-50% though, while in here they only give bonus coins at only 15% more, and it's very scarce they do that, maybe like twice or thrice per year, so stingy.

Also they remove Items that're supposed to give us players advantage to get better refines on the cheap.

I should have quitted this game before I'm in too deep in both time and money, now it's too late

[Interest07]

Well, in pwi there are always packs in cash shop (the ones that give you lunar stuff etcetera), and theres a sale of *something* every week or so. Whether you agree with this or not is up to you of course. I suppose for a botter it's nice that everything can be bought quite easily... lol

It does kinda take away all challenge of getting any items and guarantees you'll be crushed by heavy CSers that just get +12 Rank 9 gear. Just watch them in TW, they basically tab, shoot, kill, tab, shoot, kill. Unless you're also +12 R9 of course

[Smurfin]

we also have that kind of packs, they put new one monthly here, it costs around US$0.7 per click >.< and they rarely give discounts. I hardly buy those packs, I usually buy the item I want from a lucky ******* who got it from those packs, and yea the earning from bot helps but still not enough if we have a lot of chars.

btw, Interest07, are these items permanently available in cashshop or just occassionally like lucky packs ? and also golden egg which gives random dragon ball, what are the prices for these items in us$.
Dragon's Fire Packs,
True Gem Socket Packs,
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[Interest07]

The (tiger and lucky coral) packs are in cash shop permanently, they just go on sale from 0.9$ -> 0.45$ every few months.

True gem socket pack = 0.3$ and the dragon fires pack is 0.35$ on sale atm.

Right now also the 25 rep badges on sale for 0.009 $ each and 0.0005333$ per chip :P

chienkun stones are on sale for 0.45$ each too.

golden eggs are not on sale atm and are 0.75$ each

[Smurfin]

thanks for the info, seems like pwi has more things to offer and know how to please their players with huge discounts for various items. Hope our publisher here will follow, they have been very unfavourable since like..ever

[lewellyn]

But what's the in-game economy like on your server? On the PWI servers, the sales greatly influence the in-game economy. Gold was selling for up to 1,500,000 coin a month or so ago on my server. It's down to around 600,000 right now.

Why the difference? Different things on sale in the cash shop.

I'd often prefer a stable, reasonably priced, economy rather than lots of awesome stuff in the cash shop. But that's just me.

(And even as a cash shopper, I'm happy with things right now, even though I can't turn my real money into in-game money at such a nice price. With our new expansion coming out in a few days, it will be nice to have a good economy for it!)

Oh yeah, and back on topic... Is it possible for your next update to include the stone names in the ini file?

[Smurfin]

we hardly have any sale/discounts on cashshop items, they only offer 15% more koins (cashshop currency) ocassionally and rarely too when we topup >_<, and it doesn't really affect much. Sometimes cashshoppers even charge the same rate, with 15% bonus koin (cashshop currency) in effect or not.

what makes the economy unstable is they mix ingame items and cashshop items, means ingame items can be obtained via cashshop from luckypacks or from mystic chips, but I think PW players already adapted to that and not too surprised when it happens.

what I'm not satisfied is mostly for refining items. I don't really care about other items, just for the refining stones. Refining is already hard as it is and we don't have the golden eggs which could give us higher level dragon ball at cheaper price, though we have to gamble for it, or Dragon's Fire Packs that has the same advantage, (again with gambling >_<). On top of that, I found out a high level db such as +10 db ever put on sale at 'only' $50 in Pwi (cmiiw), it costs around $300 here , a +12 costs like $2400 using dragon ***** from lv 1.

my last attempt for refining equipments on my archer (which mostly already at +5 only) , I spent $50 and only managed to get one went up to +7 and two to +6 while three of them were down to +4 , in the end I paid $50 just to raise like 114 hp

sorry for the long rant, but I'm really bored and need to rant

[Interest07]

There was recently a +10 orb sale for $30, but yeah, all those sales definitely make the gold price shoot up and down, although lately it seems to hang around 600-700k per gold. For a comparison to your server perhaps, lunar glade cape = around 30-40 mil, deicide/lunar wep = around 40-50 mil.

[Smurfin]

wew, that lunar glade cape here is very expensive, (comes from luckypack as an insignia that can be exchanged with interval cape for aps, grade 12, and stat points 6-7) , socketing is cheaper on that than the interval cape g13 made at mv furnace, last I saw it was sold at 300millions. Lunar weapon is cheaper, can get one at 150-180m.

RMT with a US$1 can get you 3m gold. so it's around $45-$60 for a Lunar weapon ( *** Executioner, bow MV g13, the others are also around that or cheaper )

omg +10 db for $30, here a +10 costs like $300+ , I shouted for days in world chat willing to buy one for $333 and no one have a +10 for sale it'll still cost me 400 'green stones' ($109) for transfer, it's hard to make one , with high refines that 'cheap' , pve-ing could be done much faster.

the ingame atmosphere here on PW id server really promotes RMT, no wonder a lot of ppl do that. I myself can make a lot of ingame gold now, thanks to you Interest07 , but I don't sell them and spent them all in the game .

btw is it possible, or is there any chance at all to cheat refining ?

[lewellyn]

Originally Posted by Smurfin

btw is it possible, or is there any chance at all to cheat refining ?

No one's found a way that I know of. Apparently, it's all dealt with server-side...