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[alecz24]

Originally Posted by popx

humm can not make many Quote,,,

But hope it seems there was big big miss understanding,,,,

just like before with Shadowz and lyzrk...Shadowz got attacked by other's ( not Lyzrk)

accusing Shadowz75 by copy past old bla bla,,, from lyzrk,,,

Shadowz75 did take the pressure and respond with proof without any cross lines,,,

Shadowz75 you did respond cuz you know you had worked hard at your project,,,

and after few,,,lyzrk and you got working togther,,,,

so what was some one trying to do ? when they attacked your knowledge

they wanted you and lyzrk to be away from each other what ever it cost,,,

,,cuz they can ban your ip ,,,
,,but not your Brain and your knowledge intelligence,,,

they hopped that lyzrk take bad thoughts about you copy past his work,,,,

but we all lucky you and him togther worked togther

,,, not saying who is better,,,,

i'm saying a TeamWork relation shareing knowledge,,

eh,,,

hope here is the same,, hope it was a big miss understanding Fram work was done,,,,,

belive me it may be happenned,,,

eh,,,,just think about it what happen if you and pax and lyzrk and all other's we know are expert ,,,,and all whom we know are good at the P-server creating,,,

who will be so upset ?

who will be worried ?

any P-server owner will be,,may other forces big forces,,,

cuz when you coder's union togther make a deal of trust forget the past start new just keep reading,,,

think about it,,,

the Full 99 % or may say 100 % a p-server is made,,,

don't releas the server ,,,we as community will feel free from p-server sudden death and scam hack ,,,

cuz you guys only know how hard to achieve a point,,,you like at what ever you or we do,,,

trust is the key,,,

after all it was a point of view,,,don't mixe things up as i stand for any side,,

i just hate to see high heads get smached and figth avioding what may happen if they union togther what ever lang all working at,,,,

you still can complete each other,,,

!!! Spammers Keep It Away !!!

Note:- i may type 8 lins of codes Do an operation..

you may type 5 lines and do same opreation..

based on how are you good at development...

but we have the same Target,,,So all i'm trying to say Codes may look like each other it's about the Target that code need to achieve Based On how the Coder is thinking and how he did analysis and DEBUG his Own project...and sure may look the same cuz same project name and may be difrrenet at code.Lang.

offtopic: ,,,can ,,,you,,, please,,, stop,,, ,,, using,,, ,,,comma's,,, please,,,, ,,,?,,,
its so damn irritating when scrolling down the page and seeing your posts full of ,,,,, yet u want people to read your intelligent posts

ontopic:its sad that he quit his project.but he is wrong in asking monthly "donations" and not giving any warranty that someday he might make it 100% functional.unless he gives me proof and warranty he will do so then i would happily support him with monthly donations.

as we know life is not like movies, "Another idiot has fallen from the top of the house."

[buldozera]

#request for close! This is turning into nonsense xD

[jM3]

Originally Posted by flyingpotato1

Its funny how only 1% of the people in the silkroad section can actually code well enough to do something like this, yet 90% of the people on here talk shit and rip into people and their projects like this, yet they are only too happy to play on servers once they are done, without donating to the person unless its to get silk for their own personal use.

Seriously im sick of people like Botter1993 coming on here ripping into other members etc all for their 'Thanks" count and to boost their ego.

Computer specialists and coders easily make 40€/hour where i live, i have no coding knowledge yet im sure people like Pax spend easily 20+ hours a month. Do you work for free? Its only reasonable to expect to get paid for your time. I remember a couple of years ago when emulators were barely stable enough to be in game for long enough to move around. Yet now we have emulators in which skills work etc.

Seriously stop flaming people like Pax and Lyzerk, id like to see you flamers do a better job.

"Something like this" ? Have you even seen the project? You have an access database (-1000 skill points), you have flat text files being read by horribly bad code (-1000 skill points), it's in VB6 (-100000000000 skill points), amongst only 100+ other bad points anyone can make.

Do realize SREMU and DSREMU had most of the functionality this emulator does. You'd just have to add packets from CSREMU and other packets people have found, hell you can use drew's edx project to sniff and gather new packets with almost no trouble at all ().

The amount of "work" he does might be 20+ hours a month. That surely doesn't mean much. If I did 20 hours of work on a project I'd get the equivalent of 400-500 of his hours into it. Also, people who pull 40 euros an hour are probably degree holding, experienced and intelligent coders. This kid is a random polish kid who can barely hack around VB6 (it's full of bugs). Nobody would hire him to do anything. 200 eu for a copy of that product is a massive ripoff. That's the cost of a windows license and windows has millions of lines of code that's been meticulously debugged and quite a bit that's matured and is rather stable. He has maybe ~10,000 lines of VB6 code that's highly unstable, buggy, and of terrible quality.

There's only one other person on this entire forum I know about that's even at the same level as me and he's not some douchebag selling an undercoded pile of garbage for 200 eu a month and violating the GPL doing it. He's giving away tons of hard work for free to help the community. It's astonishing someone as ignorant as you defends a person that blatantly violates copyright laws to make a few $$.

There's a reason my development is not open anymore, and there's a reason sremu will never make another public binary. That reason: PAX and people like him. Keep supporting these fucking idiots and you'll never see an emulator completed.

[speedtouch1980]

Originally Posted by Maciupka

Pax never relased his emu to public , peoples stole his work and relase to internet . So there was no publication so there was no violation of GPL . You shadow relase emu based on GPL to public and you was not relase the source. This is real violation of gpl... end of story .

He said himself that his friends released uncomplete damaged versions from his work.So nobody stoled his work,he just gave some of it to his friends.Geez

I really don't know about violations of GPL but all I can say is that he is a good coder and he did what he did for FREE people,for FREE,you have to respect that.

Personaly I don't care about emu cuz you can't do much **** with it,but I respect the work that someone put in it.

And I don't know how ecsro took life the first place,if those files were stolen or buyed or coded and still for that huge amout of fun that we all had,still nobody said 1 thanks to those who bringed us those,you guys just played the game,pay money for **** in there and when was closed you started to hate it.Ever questioned yourself what if nowone ever created ecsro or any other emulator ? We would all be in isro or other sro's or who knows....

So just stfu if you guys can't put value on others work,is just better !

[LastThief]

In My Humble Opinion he is not greedy like lyzerk at least he released his emu to public and he is right his projects being stolen so why he would continue if he Sure that if he continued and made another projects it will be cracked if he made full emu it will be cracked too So why he could release it if he know that it will be cracked So he won`t fail if he closed his project so he just keep on coding the emu months then BAM cracked all can use Agree With me ?

[jM3]

Pax never relased his emu to public , peoples stole his work and relase to internet . So there was no publication so there was no violation of GPL . You shadow relase emu based on GPL to public and you was not relase the source. This is real violation of gpl... end of story .

It has nothing to do with who the program is distributed to. The GPL clearly states distribution in binary form to ANY PARTY requires the inclusion of the source, a link to the source, or a promise of the source. If he sold it to a few people and sent it to a few friends, these are distributions covered by the GPL. None of them got the source, so he's clearly violating it.

I warn anyone who's releasing any public emulator source code under a FOSS license: use the AGPL. The Affero adds an exception that also requires a promise of source code if any clients ever interface with the software over the internet (such as a server daemon). This way, kids like PAX can't modify your code, then host a server and claim "since I didn't distribute it, I don't have to give out the source code." With the AGPL, anyone who hosts the server must make available the source code of their project (or link to the original in the case that they don't have any modifications of it).

[_Jefrey_]

Originally Posted by jM3

"Something like this" ? Have you even seen the project? You have an access database (-1000 skill points), you have flat text files being read by horribly bad code (-1000 skill points), it's in VB6 (-100000000000 skill points), amongst only 100+ other bad points anyone can make.

Do realize SREMU and DSREMU had most of the functionality this emulator does. You'd just have to add packets from CSREMU and other packets people have found, hell you can use drew's edx project to sniff and gather new packets with almost no trouble at all ().

The amount of "work" he does might be 20+ hours a month. That surely doesn't mean much. If I did 20 hours of work on a project I'd get the equivalent of 400-500 of his hours into it. Also, people who pull 40 euros an hour are probably degree holding, experienced and intelligent coders. This kid is a random polish kid who can barely hack around VB6 (it's full of bugs). Nobody would hire him to do anything. 200 eu for a copy of that product is a massive ripoff. That's the cost of a windows license and windows has millions of lines of code that's been meticulously debugged and quite a bit that's matured and is rather stable. He has maybe ~10,000 lines of VB6 code that's highly unstable, buggy, and of terrible quality.

There's only one other person on this entire forum I know about that's even at the same level as me and he's not some douchebag selling an undercoded pile of garbage for 200 eu a month and violating the GPL doing it. He's giving away tons of hard work for free to help the community. It's astonishing someone as ignorant as you defends a person that blatantly violates copyright laws to make a few $$.

There's a reason my development is not open anymore, and there's a reason sremu will never make another public binary. That reason: PAX and people like him. Keep supporting these fucking idiots and you'll never see an emulator completed.

Show us some screens of ur 1337 emu.
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I bet you talking about windrius.

[Maciupka]

Originally Posted by jM3

It has nothing to do with who the program is distributed to. The GPL clearly states distribution in binary form to ANY PARTY requires the inclusion of the source, a link to the source, or a promise of the source. If he sold it to a few people and sent it to a few friends, these are distributions covered by the GPL. None of them got the source, so he's clearly violating it.

I warn anyone who's releasing any public emulator source code under a FOSS license: use the AGPL. The Affero adds an exception that also requires a promise of source code if any clients ever interface with the software over the internet (such as a server daemon). This way, kids like PAX can't modify your code, then host a server and claim "since I didn't distribute it, I don't have to give out the source code." With the AGPL, anyone who hosts the server must make available the source code of their project (or link to the original in the case that they don't have any modifications of it).

What you have done in Sremu ? can you describe what you have done by yourself except making a walking on the map and claiming it on GPL ?
Pax was never sell his emu , he was give emu as a "gift" to peoples who donate he.He ask about "Project sponsor" its not a selling .Anyway you didn't archieve any working emu in last 3 or more years , peoples stop supporting you because you was grab gpl code and implement it to your non open source emu.You should shut up your month and back under rock, or start fight with pax like a man by create better emu than his. If you are so "great" coder it should not be a problem for you . You are pathetic .All your defenders are lame idiots .Now its doesnt matter , Pax Quit.

[Shadowz75]

Originally Posted by Maciupka

What you have done in Sremu ? can you describe what you have done by yourself except making a walking on the map and claiming it on GPL ?
Pax was never sell his emu , he was give emu as a "gift" to peoples who donate he.He ask about "Project sponsor" its not a selling .Anyway you didn't archieve any working emu in last 3 or more years , peoples stop supporting you because you was grab gpl code and implement it to your non open source emu.You should shut up your month and back under rock, or start fight with pax like a man by create better emu than his. If you are so "great" coder it should not be a problem for you . You are pathetic .All your defenders are lame idiots .Now its doesnt matter , Pax Quit.

he coded the base, without that pax couldnt even do a emu in 1000 years. hes noobcode still looks like that:

sData = sData + "......"

this rediciouls.
he needed so much hours to add things like pvp, but thats just one packet. why did it take so long?
@jm3 you forgot about those guides:

its really easy to parse packets with all those tools drew made public.

pax is and always be a noob, cause he doesnt even tries to develop his accomplishments.

Originally Posted by lordjaggi

you acting like a little noob, just shut up.

i dont care about that. im just pissed off, that THIS COMMUNITY believes a scammer and adores such a fucking noob.

There's a reason my development is not open anymore, and there's a reason sremu will never make another public binary. That reason: PAX and people like him. Keep supporting these fucking idiots and you'll never see an emulator completed.

the same applies to me. no more public releases, cause you guys are blind.

Show us some screens of ur 1337 emu.
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I bet you talking about windrius.

he is talking about Drew Benton, you may start thinking before posting

[_Jefrey_]

Originally Posted by Shadowz75

he coded the base, without that pax couldnt even do a emu in 1000 years. hes noobcode still looks like that:

this rediciouls.
he needed so much hours to add things like pvp, but thats just one packet. why did it take so long?
@jm3 you forgot about those guides:

its really easy to parse packets with all those tools drew made public.

pax is and always be a noob, cause he doesnt even tries to develop his accomplishments.



i dont care about that. im just ****** off, that THIS COMMUNITY believes a scammer and adores such a ******* noob.


the same applies to me. no more public releases, cause you guys are blind.


he is talking about Drew Benton, you may start thinking before posting

You may start using ur brain.
Drew Benton got an higher lvl than he will ever get.
Lol.

[Maciupka]

Originally Posted by Shadowz75

he coded the base, without that pax couldnt even do a emu in 1000 years. hes noobcode still looks like that:

this rediciouls.
he needed so much hours to add things like pvp, but thats just one packet. why did it take so long?
@jm3 you forgot about those guides:

its really easy to parse packets with all those tools drew made public.

pax is and always be a noob, cause he doesnt even tries to develop his accomplishments.



i dont care about that. im just pissed off, that THIS COMMUNITY believes a scammer and adores such a fucking noob.


the same applies to me. no more public releases, cause you guys are blind.


he is talking about Drew Benton, you may start thinking before posting

You can keep your crashing shit for yourself, same jmerlin .
What is most sad ? you cant make normal competition with pax , because his server its 100% better than yours.You should proove peoples about you can make non crashing emu , crashes its BAD CODING , adding new features without thinking about all aspects.You preffer to FLAME better work than yours , thats why i think there will be never better emu than pax made.New features its nothing if emu still crashing as hell , pax always say packets its easiest thing in emu .I was donating Pax and i am not feel scammed by he , that was my will to donate !he always say its not payment its donate , so all peoples always knows about it, and all agree because he made great job.

Pax always says peoples will decide about future of his project , too bad he was not able to finish emu because of jelous peoples :/ , i will miss you pax :/

[buldozera]

We need moderator! xD This guys gona beat the **** out of themselves xD

[Windrius]

Originally Posted by _Jefrey_

I bet you talking about windrius.

Me? Release tons of work for FREE to PUBLIC?

Originally Posted by Shadowz75

the same applies to me. no more public releases, cause you guys are blind.

Every TRUE project ends up like that
Oh a little off-topic, but would you mind if I used your npc chat id's you had in your last revision of the emu? Really don't have time to collect myself.. KTHXBAI.

Originally Posted by Maciupka

What is most sad ? you cant make normal competition with pax , because his server its 100% better than yours.You should proove peoples about you can make non crashing emu , crashes its BAD CODING , adding new features without thinking about all aspects

Yesterday I wrote a simple emulator in C# that had only few functions. Login and movement. Then I've made a few bots that only worked. 1000 bots in jangan(not in one place ofc) + me. No crash. I don't think his crapmulator would hold even 100 bots with those simple functions.

Originally Posted by Maciupka

You preffer to FLAME better work than yours , thats why i think there will be never better emu than pax made.New features its nothing if emu still crashing as hell

I really don't think you understand what "good emu" is all about.
Original code is everything. jMerliN was the first person to make a 1 thread per person emulator. Good thing he made it open source too, gave me alot of help for my emulator.
On the other hand the latest sea emu uses 800MB RAM without even loading the database! I mean what kind of fuck is that?

Originally Posted by Maciupka

pax always say packets its easiest thing in emu .

Ofcourse it's easy. Open sremu, copy, paste. YAY WE HAZ PACKETZ!

Originally Posted by Maciupka

Pax always says peoples will decide about future of his project , too bad he was not able to finish emu because of jelous peoples :/ , i will miss you pax :/

First learn to spell "jealous".
Second, it's not jealousy. It's pure hate. jMerliN put alot of work into sremu. How should he feel when someone steals everything and claims to be the original creator of the emulator?

[jM3]

He's just a paxtard. I coined that term just for people like him.

[Maciupka]

Originally Posted by Windrius

First learn to spell "jealous".
Second, it's not jealousy. It's pure hate. jMerliN put alot of work into sremu. How should he feel when someone steals everything and claims to be the original creator of the emulator?

he put 15 mins of work in code really based ****** code , he always call old SRVB as a **** , never helped peoples and NEVER do ANYTHING to HELP ANYONE ! old SREMU site was a proove he never helped with anything .So wtf are you talking about steal something ? he grabbed other peoples work ALWAYS!. Where is your open source things? describe it Windrius .JMerlin and alot of work ahahahahahahahaah , nice joke .

About your emu Windrius: I have flying elephant, but im too shy to show it.
Yesterday i wrote simple emu in assembler, it takes me 2mins, i have pvp party and alchemy, and no crash.
If you dont understand why sea takes 800mb ram - shut up
I never seen server standing on sremu. Strange, its perfect emu xD you can walk 1 min and crash. Really good programer write it.^^