[Guide] BlackStar's guide to owning with a pure INT

[BlackStar_]

Originally Posted by victorinoloyola

if you just choose all 90 light/fire/cold..you will suck in pvp..you cant kill anyone with just nuke nuke nuke if you get stun or kd..more so, it takes more time to cast another nuke compared to the chain and kd/stab that bicheon has, plus those great defense that it gives you.
so i advise you to take 90 bicheon/light/cold and 30 fire of heuksal for extra HP.

bicheon/light/cold is a build that's better in 1vs1 got some defensive skills to save you when your hp gets low.

fire/light/cold has higher dmg (without status) because of the firenukes and imbue. but it's much worse in 1vs1. But in groupwar you will shine.
Since you'll have other ppl protecting you and all you have to worry about is keep nuking everyone.

So you gotta pick: either a more allrounder which does good in 1vs1 too (L/C/B).. or a build for groupwar only (F/L/C).


just like victorinoloyola I advise light/cold/bicheon to most ppl.. but some don't wanna give up the fire-tree so they take fire/light/cold which is also nice.. just not for 1vs1




to answer your question Tomz about bleed and devision:

dunno the numbers.. i'll give you some of mine... so you can see how much it increases. though i'm just lvl 85 now.. and still working on both gear and especially weapon.. so in no way is this the max a pure INT sword nuker can get. Also I have a 7 gap.. but i'll look when i'm ingame..
from my head it's something like:

8k normal - 10k with bleed and like 12k with devision but i'll try it out... that's on about a same lvl str guy.

the thing with fire nukers is that they are group-fight based.. so you will have someone else to put bleed and devision on somebody.. and then you'll see some real high numbers cause your fire nuke will do insane dmg then =)

[tomdz]

thanks for the help Blackstar i have another question for you though, does physical attack power, critical and physical reinforce % on weapons help you alot if you are bicheon/cold/lightning?

[victorinoloyola]

Originally Posted by tomdz

thanks for the help Blackstar i have another question for you though, does physical attack power, critical and physical reinforce % on weapons help you alot if you are bicheon/cold/lightning?

they do, physical attack power, critical and physical reinforce % on weapons help you alot when you do phy attack like chains and kd/stb..but doesn't add damage when you do magical attack. Critical is only for physical attack and not for magic attack like nukes. you will never see a nuke with a critical+ damage.

[BlackStar_]

Originally Posted by victorinoloyola

they do, physical attack power, critical and physical reinforce % on weapons help you alot when you do phy attack like chains and kd/stb..but doesn't add damage when you do magical attack. Critical is only for physical attack and not for magic attack like nukes. you will never see a nuke with a critical+ damage.

nice to see someone in my thread who knows what he's talking about too ^^


any comment on the guide so far btw? it ain't finished yet.. but i'd like your feedback


@tomz

np maybe i'll make a little section about this in my guide.. might be good info for other players too =)

[tomdz]

Originally Posted by victorinoloyola

they do, physical attack power, critical and physical reinforce % on weapons help you alot when you do phy attack like chains and kd/stb..but doesn't add damage when you do magical attack. Critical is only for physical attack and not for magic attack like nukes. you will never see a nuke with a critical+ damage.

yea i know that nukes dont crit but i was wondering if a crit would do much more damage since most of the damage is coming from your imbues and not physical attack power

--- Merged posts (Use the edit button next time) --- Regards hussert

the guide is really good, you could go deeper into the sort of alchemy you want to put on all your gear and equipment with different type of nukers though also maybe add what type of nuker shines out in what type of combat ?

[John Dread]

+ #50+51 Reported at 04.08.08 20:13 cause Doublepost

please use the edit-button below your post to edit it in order not to post twice in a row

[DarkCronicLe]

oh my *** John Dread-.-
You always post if you report anybody, thats more spamming than all..

I report around 15 ppl / day, do I post it? NO, because nobody cares about it!

b2t.:.:...:
This nuker guide is nice, but I think there are some parts missing

Dunno if it's already there, but you should post how many SPs are required for which build

example: 10 skillpoints for lightning 1-90

[John Dread]

Originally Posted by DarkCronicLe

oh my *** John Dread-.-
You always post if you report anybody, thats more spamming than all..

I report around 15 ppl / day, do I post it? NO, because nobody cares about it!

just to inform u...look at my tag under my nickname. What does it say? Forum-Guardian. thats a position in the forum which was offered to me by vyn (global mod). I accepted it because i wanted to help the forum. Part of this "job" is to post the rule-violations. So please before u post something u are not sure about please inform yourself. If u have any complaints about that please send them to vyn.

Regards,
~John~

[BlackStar_]

Originally Posted by tomdz

yea i know that nukes dont crit but i was wondering if a crit would do much more damage since most of the damage is coming from your imbues and not physical attack power

yeah true.. so your crit as INT ain't much higher.. but it's still a bit higher.. so I try to get at least crit 8 at my weapon.. even though i'm pure INT.

Originally Posted by tomdz

the guide is really good, you could go deeper into the sort of alchemy you want to put on all your gear and equipment with different type of nukers though also maybe add what type of nuker shines out in what type of combat ?

well I already put in a bit on what nuker is best for which combat.. but I'll try to make it more clear.. and I'll work on the alchemy section a bit too..
thnx for the feedback

Originally Posted by DarkCronicLe

b2t.:.:...:
This nuker guide is nice, but I think there are some parts missing

Dunno if it's already there, but you should post how many SPs are required for which build

example: 10 skillpoints for lightning 1-90

yeah I know...it's on my to-do list ^^


@ all
need to sit for this guide again.. prob this week. Been working fulltime so barely had any time. But i'll take any feedback you guys have and update my guide.. so keep the feedbacks comming pls.

[Hussert]

Originally Posted by tomdz

yea i know that nukes dont crit but i was wondering if a crit would do much more damage since most of the damage is coming from your imbues and not physical attack power

--- Merged posts (Use the edit button next time) --- Regards hussert

the guide is really good, you could go deeper into the sort of alchemy you want to put on all your gear and equipment with different type of nukers though also maybe add what type of nuker shines out in what type of combat ?

Originally Posted by John_Dread

+ #50+51 Reported at 04.08.08 20:13 cause Doublepost

please use the edit-button below your post to edit it in order not to post twice in a row

# Merged posts 50, 51

Use the edit button next time.

Originally Posted by DarkCronicLe

oh my god John Dread-.-
You always post if you report anybody, thats more spamming than all..

I report around 15 ppl / day, do I post it? NO, because nobody cares about it!

b2t.:.:...:
This nuker guide is nice, but I think there are some parts missing

Dunno if it's already there, but you should post how many SPs are required for which build

example: 10 skillpoints for lightning 1-90

It's better if people knew that they were reported. this way, they will be careful next times.

[strukel]

Nice guide.. I got an question

I'm lvl 72 atm my mastery's are lvl 72 fire (farmed till 67) lvl 66 light - cold 50 bich 45.. And Im full int with armor

I know i'm bad farmed.

But my question is how should I build the char without delvling anything (just bcoz I havent got the gold for it).. I was thinking of fire 90 light 90 cold 70 bich 50.

Plz help me out

[BlackStar_]

Originally Posted by strukel

Nice guide.. I got an question

I'm lvl 72 atm my mastery's are lvl 72 fire (farmed till 67) lvl 66 light - cold 50 bich 45.. And Im full int with armor

I know i'm bad farmed.

But my question is how should I build the char without delvling anything (just bcoz I havent got the gold for it).. I was thinking of fire 90 light 90 cold 70 bich 50.

Plz help me out

hmm well at lvl 80+ (when you will need the mastery space) the gold to delvl like 50 lvl's ain't that much.

So I advice fire/light/cold 90 for you and delvl bicheon

the thing is.. that lvl 45 bicheon skills are pretty usuless against lvl 90
so all those half maxed mastery's won't work very good imo.. unless you are a hybrid INT.

you need light maxed that's for sure.. and you need cold lvl 60.. (even if you're hybrid)

and if you don't wanna delvl your fire you will take that 90 too

so fire90/light90/cold 60 and then you got 60 mastery spots left which you can place where you want.

I advise put 30 extra in cold to make cold 90 and bring bicheon down to lvl 30
or a 80 cold and then 40 bicheon some combo like that would work too i think.

[victorinoloyola]

Originally Posted by strukel

Nice guide.. I got an question

I'm lvl 72 atm my mastery's are lvl 72 fire (farmed till 67) lvl 66 light - cold 50 bich 45.. And Im full int with armor

I know i'm bad farmed.

But my question is how should I build the char without delvling anything (just bcoz I havent got the gold for it).. I was thinking of fire 90 light 90 cold 70 bich 50.

Plz help me out

imo, i still suggest you take 90 bicheon/light/cold, 30 whatever you want
but as i can see in your build now thats really a bad farmed..you really have to choose what build u gonna be & choose what to dlvl.. gold isn't that much problem when you're killing lvl 76+ mobs (D9 drops & D9 tabs has high price in any server) i can make easy money just by making D9 stones esp str/int challenge.

[Mass Mods]

Alright, I am building a full int nuker, spear, armor. I am thinking 90 fire, 90 lightning, 90 cold, 30 spear. Or 90 Fire, 90 Lightning, 60 Cold, 60 Spear... Any thoughts as to what would be the best build for me?

[BlackStar_]

Originally Posted by Mass Mods

Alright, I am building a full int nuker, spear, armor. I am thinking 90 fire, 90 lightning, 90 cold, 30 spear. Or 90 Fire, 90 Lightning, 60 Cold, 60 Spear... Any thoughts as to what would be the best build for me?

depends on if you are pure or not. Personally I like cold over extra hp.
lvl 60 spear skills are not gonna do much dmg.. so only the passive will help you.
so in the end.. it's better to get cold higher lvl (at least lvl 80) then take a few extra lvl's of heuksal.
It's my personaly opionion though.. some like the builds where you take 2 mastery at lvl 60. I never tried it or fought one who was strong... and in theory I think 3 maxed mastery is stronger.. especially for a pure INT.