[Serverpresentation] Epicaria (DE/EN)

[Amoktank]

Originally Posted by xxSleiderxx

Habe gedacht das der Server grad erst gestartet ist, läuft wohl schon ne weile.
das macht die sache für mich uninteressant

Für mich auch aber sonst nen super Server viele tolle Ideen (rein schauen lohnt sich) !!

[InkDevil]

Added google drive download-link.

[Filipe2008]

Hi!

"... my system is based on group play and also on trade and support."
Thats the 3 worst things on rappelz private servers community, and the must difficult things to deal with in rappelz private servers. I mean low community 10/20 private servers, how can "group/trade/support" be possible, considering does factors? Did u made anything to compensate that? Like, no lvl cap? or increase it to 50lvl difference? What can a r2 player trade to a r3/4 player? What can a R5 player sell to a r3 player that it would be worth it to a r5 player considering that u made sure there were separated items each rank?

A person come here to search for an server, the reason she's here and not in official, must likely is, no time to grind for hours and hours (not 16 year old any more, married,kids, working, future...) Why do you think they will choose your server over others in here or even official (considering your server exp is even lower than official)?

Does the hard work you had in this amount of changes "screams" fun to a player or just " tedious grinding"!? Or "grinding fun"? Does it matter to you what a player base thinks/wants?

How do you expect server grown/survivability, if someone joins 1 week later or more and he cant find a party? Does it matter to you? How should that player play in your server, can you give tips how he should play it to make it joyful?

Is Boxing allowed/possible?

Summoner class's got buffed (no time in dual summon both pets buffed) What did the other class's got to balanced them?

Is there CS items? I didn't read anything at all about them besides grown potions.

Donations exist? what, how to support?

The reason why u made the server public was because u wanted to share it to show your work, or that and u got bored with your friends playing in it?

What is the longevity of the server expectations? 1/2 months? Considering you made it, do you think is worth it to a join the server 0.7xp rate not knowing how long will last?


GL

[InkDevil]

Reading one page seems to be very hard.
Also watching videos.
Otherwise you'd already know the answers on some of your provoking questions. ^^

But I'll still answer on some.

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

Hi!

"... my system is based on group play and also on trade and support."
Thats the 3 worst things on rappelz private servers community, and the must difficult things to deal with in rappelz private servers. I mean low community 10/20 private servers, how can "group/trade/support" be possible, considering does factors? Did u made anything to compensate that? Like, no lvl cap? or increase it to 50lvl difference? What can a r2 player trade to a r3/4 player? What can a R5 player sell to a r3 player that it would be worth it to a r5 player considering that u made sure there were separated items each rank?

Systems are called worse if you're unable to work with them.
If you're unable to play in groups or you're unable to use trading with others or support others - you're already wrong in MMORPGs anyway.
As said, I don't give anything on how retail has changed over time.
It just matters for me in case I have to downgrade something.

If you'd have read the presentation and would have watched the videos, you'd know, that -as example - petcards drop only from their fitting monsters...and not all monstertypes can be found in high levelranges.
Also the fact, that there's a cooldown on producing items via "social job", which is account-bound, cries for trading and support through each other.

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

A person come here to search for an server, the reason she's here and not in official, must likely is, no time to grind for hours and hours (not 16 year old any more, married,kids, working, future...) Why do you think they will choose your server over others in here or even official (considering your server exp is even lower than official)?

For such reasons you will never search a server with lowrate and some old-epic-bases.
To level up fast and getting everything quite easy is not the primary aim of my server.
I'm pretty sorry if someone is unable to use his or her brain and get such obvious information, joining my server with these kinds of expectations.

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

Does the hard work you had in this amount of changes "screams" fun to a player or just " tedious grinding"!? Or "grinding fun"? Does it matter to you what a player base thinks/wants?

It matters, as long as it fits to my concept.
As it is also written in my description. ^^

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

How do you expect server grown/survivability, if someone joins 1 week later or more and he cant find a party? Does it matter to you? How should that player play in your server, can you give tips how he should play it to make it joyful?

You mentioned my lowrate some lines before,
additionally people who have not that much time to play many hours per day.
According to these you should know that there won't be a huge gap between a player starting on day "x" and a player starting on day "x+10", except a better item-base.
If we have someone who leveled up pretty fast because he had time to do so,
he might be motivated to start a second character to play as duo or a new group.


If someone doesn't find a party, he can still go grinding or doing quests.
Look in serverpresentation again, then you'll get why doing quests is also a good thing.

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

Is Boxing allowed/possible?

I'm not a friend of boxing. It would also affect the aimed gameplay in groups,
if you'd only go "soloing" with your 6 box-characters.
So I guess it's also obvious why I don't like it ;P

It isn't possible with this launcher...
But there are always possibilities to play with more than one account.
And I'm also aware of that.

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

Summoner class's got buffed (no time in dual summon both pets buffed) What did the other class's got to balanced them?

One wrong statement plus one question which you could answer yourself again if you'd have read the opening-thread.
Summoner classes don't have perma-dual, except they're in masterclass.
And - pardon if you didn't know that and I'm telling you something new - that is already included in masterclasses since they were implemented.
For the question of balanced other classes,
you can ask yourself if this is really an intelligent question if somebody tries to revive playing in groups...

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

Is there CS items? I didn't read anything at all about them besides grown potions.

All CS-items - if they fit somehow into the concept - are available through boxes, drops, or arenapoints.
Some items are modified, so they're not too powerful.

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

Donations exist? what, how to support?

Donations don't exist.

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

The reason why u made the server public was because u wanted to share it to show your work, or that and u got bored with your friends playing in it?

I'm really surprised and asking myself if you read anything of my posts on first page.
The reason is not to show anything of my creations or getting bored of having it as local one.
I'm releasing most of my things all the time, so it wouldn't make that much sense...if you'd now me, you'd know that.
Funny thing is, I don't have that much time to play on my own server, except I need to test things....so getting bored of playing on my own server was never a point in this. XD

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

What is the longevity of the server expectations? 1/2 months? Considering you made it, do you think is worth it to a join the server 0.7xp rate not knowing how long will last?

The server (public access starting from Alpha) is already active since july/september.
If it would be just some thing of 1-2 months, I wouldn't make myself that much work writing such a presentation while I'm working 48h/week in reallife additionally with my job.
I don't know how long it will last.
Always depending on players behavior ^^

__________________________________________________ __________________________

You should have read the first page and the OT itself better than just one sentence and the rates, then you might be able to write some more...appropriate questions.

I don't know who do you think you are to write down questions without having any idea of what was written before,
but put yourself up as if your imagination of a "good" server would be something I should especially take care of...creating uncertainty with questions which were already answered clearly one page ago.
I won't react on another post of you here, since you showed me you're using your fingers before using your head.
Just as preventive information.


There's nothing I get from this project, except feedback by playing people to my ideas.
If you'd like to mention that my behavior in this answer is unfriendly,
I'd confirm that without any doubt ^^
Because if there's something I really hate, then it's trashtalking behavior of someone who has no clue about the whole thing but pretending he has.
And someone who has already such negative views on everything, is not someone I'd like to reach for playing on my server anyway.

[Filipe2008]

Originally Posted by InkDevil

Reading one page seems to be very hard.
Also watching videos.
Otherwise you'd already know the answers on some of your provoking questions. ^^

But I'll still answer on some.



Systems are called worse if you're unable to work with them.
If you're unable to play in groups or you're unable to use trading with others or support others - you're already wrong in MMORPGs anyway.
As said, I don't give anything on how retail has changed over time.
It just matters for me in case I have to downgrade something.

If you'd have read the presentation and would have watched the videos, you'd know, that -as example - petcards drop only from their fitting monsters...and not all monstertypes can be found in high levelranges.
Also the fact, that there's a cooldown on producing items via "social job", which is account-bound, cries for trading and support through each other.




For such reasons you will never search a server with lowrate and some old-epic-bases.
To level up fast and getting everything quite easy is not the primary aim of my server.
I'm pretty sorry if someone is unable to use his or her brain and get such obvious information, joining my server with these kinds of expectations.




It matters, as long as it fits to my concept.
As it is also written in my description. ^^



You mentioned my lowrate some lines before,
additionally people who have not that much time to play many hours per day.
According to these you should know that there won't be a huge gap between a player starting on day "x" and a player starting on day "x+10", except a better item-base.
If we have someone who leveled up pretty fast because he had time to do so,
he might be motivated to start a second character to play as duo or a new group.


If someone doesn't find a party, he can still go grinding or doing quests.
Look in serverpresentation again, then you'll get why doing quests is also a good thing.



I'm not a friend of boxing. It would also affect the aimed gameplay in groups,
if you'd only go "soloing" with your 6 box-characters.
So I guess it's also obvious why I don't like it ;P

It isn't possible with this launcher...
But there are always possibilities to play with more than one account.
And I'm also aware of that.


One wrong statement plus one question which you could answer yourself again if you'd have read the opening-thread.
Summoner classes don't have perma-dual, except they're in masterclass.
And - pardon if you didn't know that and I'm telling you something new - that is already included in masterclasses since they were implemented.
For the question of balanced other classes,
you can ask yourself if this is really an intelligent question if somebody tries to revive playing in groups...



All CS-items - if they fit somehow into the concept - are available through boxes, drops, or arenapoints.
Some items are modified, so they're not too powerful.



Donations don't exist.



I'm really surprised and asking myself if you read anything of my posts on first page.
The reason is not to show anything of my creations or getting bored of having it as local one.
I'm releasing most of my things all the time, so it wouldn't make that much sense...if you'd now me, you'd know that.
Funny thing is, I don't have that much time to play on my own server, except I need to test things....so getting bored of playing on my own server was never a point in this. XD




The server (public access starting from Alpha) is already active since july/september.
If it would be just some thing of 1-2 months, I wouldn't make myself that much work writing such a presentation while I'm working 48h/week in reallife additionally with my job.
I don't know how long it will last.
Always depending on players behavior ^^

__________________________________________________ __________________________

You should have read the first page and the OT itself better than just one sentence and the rates, then you might be able to write some more...appropriate questions.

I don't know who do you think you are to write down questions without having any idea of what was written before,
but put yourself up as if your imagination of a "good" server would be something I should especially take care of...creating uncertainty with questions which were already answered clearly one page ago.
I won't react on another post of you here, since you showed me you're using your fingers before using your head.
Just as preventive information.


There's nothing I get from this project, except feedback by playing people to my ideas.
If you'd like to mention that my behavior in this answer is unfriendly,
I'd confirm that without any doubt ^^
Because if there's something I really hate, then it's trashtalking behavior of someone who has no clue about the whole thing but pretending he has.
And someone who has already such negative views on everything, is not someone I'd like to reach for playing on my server anyway.

Im pretty sure there is an english barrier here, i didnt assumed anything i rased question that i got after reading fully your post, i didnt watched all videos. Is not because masterclass has perm summon that i need to assume u didnt change it considering its a grind server.

If you got this salty just for clarifications questions, i can imagine u wont even listen anything player base ask you.

U even mention it that, that old players all left because they didnt liked it, so why cant i raise questions about it!?

Dont get so defensive about it, makes u look like a immature kid that cant handle a few questions geez.

There was, and there is much better server host, server creators than you, even with some good and better reputation than you, and they projects failed so... take that in mind, you will need their help, dunno if your ego will allow you to accecpt their help.

[SilentWisdom]

Imagine that @ in someone's thread troll crying

[c1ph3r]

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

Im pretty sure there is an english barrier here, i didnt assumed anything i rased question that i got after reading fully your post, i didnt watched all videos. Is not because masterclass has perm summon that i need to assume u didnt change it considering its a grind server.

If you got this salty just for clarifications questions, i can imagine u wont even listen anything player base ask you.

U even mention it that, that old players all left because they didnt liked it, so why cant i raise questions about it!?

Dont get so defensive about it, makes u look like a immature kid that cant handle a few questions geez.

There was, and there is much better server host, server creators than you, even with some good and better reputation than you, and they projects failed so... take that in mind, you will need their help, dunno if your ego will allow you to accecpt their help.

C'mon guy shut up if you don't know what you are talking about. 99% of this community isn't able to do what InkDevil is able to do. He is working for years in this community and is one of the best devs here and he knows who to ask if he needs help. Perhaps but only perhaps he changed his nickname

He answered your questions so do everyone a favor and stop trolling around if you don't know what you are talking about. No need to play that server if you don't like the concept!

[bennyblech]

I'm a little bit shocked about how people are reacting here.

I am playing on this server since late beta, and still enjoy it so much. On official server I started playing in Epic 4, and stopped when soul pets where introduced (but played that epics on private servers), so I know how you have to WORK for your ingame stuff: farm over and over just for one small pet card or piece of equip. And this is the perfect server for that kind of "farming spirit"!

Rappelz is a grinder. The main goal is (or should be) to finally get the pet of your dreams, your +20 equip or your +5 skill card. What do you have left to play, if you get all of this within a week?

No, the server is not brand new. But, as many of you have seen yourself, only a dozen of people noticed the server going online last autumn, and several of them left already again (I think because it was too grindy for them, especially with the balances made, e.g. harder to get rare pet cards). Around Christmas and New Year there where maybe 4 or 5 players left. Auction House was empty, farm spots also were.

The first day the server was announced in this thread, a flood of new players arrived. Getting a DP (even at low levels) or building up a guild would never have been easier. So, what is your problem with the server not being new? That you are not the first ones reaching R7 or getting a T4 pet? Because of the 5 players that are already there? I really don't understand it (and I think you are quite ungrateful).

And yes, you have to have other players for some stuff (e.g. the new job system for legendary equip). But it's not like you couldn't play without it! Not strong enough to kill the Ultimate Witch with R5? Well, grind your way up to R6 and try again (that's what we did too). Instead of legendary equipment you can use normal. No one throwing World Buffs? Get onto your Lydian and search for the Iron Guards yourself! Not the item you want in the auction house available? But on the field it is! You just have to do what the game is about - grind for it

BTW, it IS possible to reach your goals without a party. It's just easier if you don't want to squeeze the very best out of your character.

I am married (my husband also plays here), I do have kids and a full time job. And still I am able to play this "hard" server without being frustrated. If you are used to the low rates of the earlier epics, this server is a piece of cake And I was SO happy when I got my Naga, I use it all the time (although I got better fitting pets now, like the Kainen/Ice Maiden). No Stage 5 Mechapixie or whatever needed here!

For players, that only have limited time every day, there are really nice mechanics to still get nearly as much as someone who grinds 24/7: the daylie quests give you even more pet card fragments than farming and enough AP to buy nice items like GMFB and buffs. The daylie kill counter gives you Blessing of Deva and Fragments for X mobs killed (starting with 2 Blessings of Deva (each lasting 1h) for only 500 killed mobs!). With the cooldown on the job skills you can make your rupees casually. And with the increased drop rate over the week (resetted at Sunday night), people who can only farm on the weekends have a better drop rate in their few farm rounds

The GM always listens to players, he even asked us what we wanted for Christmas Event and built up a really fun event, even for only a handful of players! He always informes us what he is implementing next, patch notes are informative, on Discount you can find even more information and support. The people I met on the server all were very nice and helpful.

Please, stop trying to find bad things and give it a try, guys (and girls, and apache helicopters, and everyone else)! I would love to see more people around!

Greetings, Viscaya

P.S.: Even if the server doesn't fit your needings, you could appreciate the sh*tload of time, thoughts and sweat that was put into it.
P.P.S.: Ich hoffe, ich muss das nicht noch auf Deutsch übersetzen o.o

[Filipe2008]

Originally Posted by SilentWisdom

Imagine that @ in someone's thread troll crying

Should we dig your account to see who trolled, cry, and went far beyond , DDO's, stole work and even try to take credit from others work that lead them to remove you from their team and in the end leave this community?

There is a reason u changed your name, the other one was to tainted, if you dont have any constructive criticism about me, be quiet, it makes look better instead to try to get on his good side to leech his work.

Originally Posted by c1ph3r

C'mon guy shut up if you don't know what you are talking about. 99% of this community isn't able to do what InkDevil is able to do. He is working for years in this community and is one of the best devs here and he knows who to ask if he needs help. Perhaps but only perhaps he changed his nickname

He answered your questions so do everyone a favor and stop trolling around if you don't know what you are talking about. No need to play that server if you don't like the concept!

So, if someone doesn't know, is not allowed to question something? Good to know your logic. 99% of this community wants to play not do what he does, both have their advantages and disadvantages one dont diminish the other and both are necessary, therefore what u said is pointless.

Is not my fault that he got salty and all hes buddys went whitekight on me for it, i was just trying to understand the server better, his first post's dont fully describes the server (obviously and pretty normal) so is fair it rases questions, not considering how many servers that come and go in here.

@ Thanks for your post very informative, it has more value than this guys, nice to see mature people around.

[c1ph3r]

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

Should we dig your account to see who trolled, cry, and went far beyond , DDO's, stole work and even try to take credit from others work that lead them to remove you from their team and in the end leave this community?

There is a reason u changed your name, the other one was to tainted, if you dont have any constructive criticism about me, be quiet, it makes look better instead to try to get on his good side to leech his work.




So, if someone doesn't know, is not allowed to question something? Good to know your logic. 99% of this community wants to play not do what he does, both have their advantages and disadvantages one dont diminish the other and both are necessary, therefore what u said is pointless.

Is not my fault that he got salty and all hes buddys went whitekight on me for it, i was just trying to understand the server better, his first post's dont fully describes the server (obviously and pretty normal) so is fair it rases questions, not considering how many servers that come and go in here.

@ Thanks for your post very informative, it has more value than this guys, nice to see mature people around.

I didn't say that you aren't allowed to ask questions. You started insulting InkDevil and I answered the same way you wrote your post before. Perhaps you should reread your own words before complaining about the way others were answering you.

I saw a lot of your posts and it's not the first time you are trolling serverthreads. Like bennyblech said: Stop trying to find bad things before even trying the server and everything is fine!

Offtopic:
Oh and something about SilentWisdom/Drow. It's no secret who is behind that account. I'm not his biggest fan but he did a lot for the epvp community. There is no need for him to steal InkDevils work because he is able to do these things on his own.

I'm out.

[アルカード]

Originally Posted by c1ph3r

I didn't say that you aren't allowed to ask questions. You started insulting InkDevil and I answered the same way you wrote your post before. Perhaps you should reread your own words before complaining about the way others were answering you.

I saw a lot of your posts and it's not the first time you are trolling serverthreads. Like bennyblech said: Stop trying to find bad things before even trying the server and everything is fine!

Offtopic:
Oh and something about SilentWisdom/Drow. It's no secret who is behind that account. I'm not his biggest fan but he did a lot for the epvp community. There is no need for him to steal InkDevils work because he is able to do these things on his own.

I'm out.

Why bother anymore?I was player for long time and i were quite often comment on server thread how things are bad untill few people told me to try to create own server and saw how it might be very hard at start to do something properly but if u give it enough time u learn it.I am no skilled developer or anything near it but i given alot of time and effort to atleast try to learn it.Now when u are creating something new in this game it take alot of skills,time and nerves to do it and what u get from community?shitstorm as always.It is old same story in infinite loop.People ******** about high rate servers and moneygrabbing developers and when somebody makes a low rate server without moneygrabbing system they again choose to ***** about it and shitstorm it.I now get it why some very skillfull developers left scene for good.Just my experiance and point of you. As newbie to a one of people i admire alot.

[SilentWisdom]

Originally Posted by Filipe2008

Should we dig your account to see who trolled, cry, and went far beyond , DDO's, stole work and even try to take credit from others work that lead them to remove you from their team and in the end leave this community?

There is a reason u changed your name, the other one was to tainted, if you dont have any constructive criticism about me, be quiet, it makes look better instead to try to get on his good side to leech his work.

My past with nCarbon is beyond your scope, so keep quiet kiddo.

My original name was banned for fighting with an EPVP Admin lol, so..

@ crybaby nonsense aside, as everyone else knows @ is a artist with Rappelz and as with most visionaries he will attract some haters as above. But you have a good reputation to those here with actual skill @ and you know if you ever need us, all you need do is ask my friend.

[ThunderNikk]

Lets try to keep it civil.

Not fair to InkDevil's release thread to turn it into a royal rumble.

Filipe2008 you asked questions and gave opinions. Your questions were answered (maybe not the way you would have liked) and your opinions were heard. Your choice whether you will play a server or not.

It is also the developers choice what kind of server they would like to present to the community. It is their choice to listen to suggestions or opinions. It is also their choice on whether or not they will change something based on suggestions or opinions.

Lets just leave it at that.

[InkDevil]

Hm, well...

Thanks @ and @ for defending me as person.
Thanks @ for defending my server & me as admin.
And thanks @ for saving the thread.

@ : I read your first post three times.
The main-issue for me was that I wasn't able to see your serious questions as serious when I read the first block.
That was like an indirect attack for me, so the rest of your questions of course got me salty (even if they weren't supposed to do so),especially because I really answered some of these questions on Page 1.
I'm sorry if I got that wrong.
Maybe you shouldn't start with "No, That idea is completely bad " as introduction to prevent missunderstandings.
If you have further questions about me or about my server, I'd like you to send me a message.

[Amoktank]

Originally Posted by Amoktank

Für mich auch aber sonst nen super Server viele tolle Ideen (rein schauen lohnt sich) !!

also nachdem ich diesen dünnschiss verfasst hab, gab ich dem server noch ne chance und spiele nun seid 2 tagen hier und muss sagen es ist eines der besten server die ich gesehn hab also leute gebt dem server ne chance und testet es !