Difference between software and hardware cheats?

[Syneergee]

So i was looking around for a decent hardware colorbot but i ended up finding someone selling a software colorbot. I made a ticket and basically asked what the difference is in terms of security wise. He said that there's no difference in security and they're both similar in terms of security. Is this true?

What's the difference between the two?

[Toxic.dll]

Software its a program that Read and Write on Memory game and exist 2 types
Internals - Inject a DLL on game and most likely use game functions to modify the game and give you advantages for a example, use ViewAngles, the Function of game that is used for you move your Camera on game the cheat use that to make the Aimbot, changing the values to Aim on Head (Shit example its flagged/detect on Valorant without a spoofcall)
External - A program that dont inject in game, that one use Windows Functions to Read and Write on game Memory, and use a Overlay, a Window that Overwrite the game and use that for Draw Visuals like ESP
Also for Aimbot they use methods to Simulate Mouse Inputs

Hardware are cheats that require you a pshyical hardware to cheat
DMA - Direct Memory Access , its a PCIE board that is used to Read Memory from Game without need bypass things like Guarded Regions
Then use a External program like Externals, but sometimes even use it on a other computer since you can use the Board to transfer the Info for a other computer
But its likely Patched
Arduino- A board used to emulate mouse movements and make Colorbots
Raspberry - Same thing from Arduino

Pros and Cons

Internal Software
Pros:
Better Performace
More possible features
More security
Cons:
Easier to detect when you don't know what you're doing

External Software
Pros:
More security for Public Cheats
Cons:
Less performace bad Externals ESP are super laggy
Visible Check for Valorant are Terrible, aim trought corners
Less possible features

Hardware

DMA
Pros:
High Security
Cons:
Super Slow
Just few features possible
Expensive for all Setup (Cheat, Board, Custom Firmware)
Good one require e Second Computer
Actually Patched, you need use a super old win version and will get patched soon too

Raspberry/Arduino
Pros:
Cheap
Any paster can make it "UD"
Cons:
Security not is good, even if peoples tell its the safer one you never will survive a manual check
Only colorbots possible
Shit advance, aim is horrible
Most of devs for it are pasters


Tried explain everything on the better way but i have a broke english, so sorry for it

[Haryana_Grande]

Originally Posted by Toxic.dll

Software its a program that Read and Write on Memory game and exist 2 types
Internals - Inject a DLL on game and most likely use game functions to modify the game and give you advantages for a example, use ViewAngles, the Function of game that is used for you move your Camera on game the cheat use that to make the Aimbot, changing the values to Aim on Head (Shit example its flagged/detect on Valorant without a spoofcall)
External - A program that dont inject in game, that one use Windows Functions to Read and Write on game Memory, and use a Overlay, a Window that Overwrite the game and use that for Draw Visuals like ESP
Also for Aimbot they use methods to Simulate Mouse Inputs

Hardware are cheats that require you a pshyical hardware to cheat
DMA - Direct Memory Access , its a PCIE board that is used to Read Memory from Game without need bypass things like Guarded Regions
Then use a External program like Externals, but sometimes even use it on a other computer since you can use the Board to transfer the Info for a other computer
But its likely Patched
Arduino- A board used to emulate mouse movements and make Colorbots
Raspberry - Same thing from Arduino

Pros and Cons

Internal Software
Pros:
Better Performace
More possible features
More security
Cons:
Easier to detect when you don't know what you're doing

External Software
Pros:
More security for Public Cheats
Cons:
Less performace bad Externals ESP are super laggy
Visible Check for Valorant are Terrible, aim trought corners
Less possible features

Hardware

DMA
Pros:
High Security
Cons:
Super Slow
Just few features possible
Expensive for all Setup (Cheat, Board, Custom Firmware)
Good one require e Second Computer
Actually Patched, you need use a super old win version and will get patched soon too

Raspberry/Arduino
Pros:
Cheap
Any paster can make it "UD"
Cons:
Security not is good, even if peoples tell its the safer one you never will survive a manual check
Only colorbots possible
Shit advance, aim is horrible
Most of devs for it are pasters


Tried explain everything on the better way but i have a broke english, so sorry for it

Hello, thankyou for such great information.
I wanna ask one thing or two
Is Internal cheats are more risky than hardware?

[Toxic.dll]

Originally Posted by Haryana_Grande

Hello, thankyou for such great information.
I wanna ask one thing or two
Is Internal cheats are more risky than hardware?

All depends the Dev, if its a good dev its a way more secure than any Hardware
If is a bad dev any paster hardware cheat can be safer

[petros2x]

Originally Posted by Toxic.dll

Software its a program that Read and Write on Memory game and exist 2 types
Internals - Inject a DLL on game and most likely use game functions to modify the game and give you advantages for a example, use ViewAngles, the Function of game that is used for you move your Camera on game the cheat use that to make the Aimbot, changing the values to Aim on Head (Shit example its flagged/detect on Valorant without a spoofcall)
External - A program that dont inject in game, that one use Windows Functions to Read and Write on game Memory, and use a Overlay, a Window that Overwrite the game and use that for Draw Visuals like ESP
Also for Aimbot they use methods to Simulate Mouse Inputs

Hardware are cheats that require you a pshyical hardware to cheat
DMA - Direct Memory Access , its a PCIE board that is used to Read Memory from Game without need bypass things like Guarded Regions
Then use a External program like Externals, but sometimes even use it on a other computer since you can use the Board to transfer the Info for a other computer
But its likely Patched
Arduino- A board used to emulate mouse movements and make Colorbots
Raspberry - Same thing from Arduino

Pros and Cons

Internal Software
Pros:
Better Performace
More possible features
More security
Cons:
Easier to detect when you don't know what you're doing

External Software
Pros:
More security for Public Cheats
Cons:
Less performace bad Externals ESP are super laggy
Visible Check for Valorant are Terrible, aim trought corners
Less possible features

Hardware

DMA
Pros:
High Security
Cons:
Super Slow
Just few features possible
Expensive for all Setup (Cheat, Board, Custom Firmware)
Good one require e Second Computer
Actually Patched, you need use a super old win version and will get patched soon too

Raspberry/Arduino
Pros:
Cheap
Any paster can make it "UD"
Cons:
Security not is good, even if peoples tell its the safer one you never will survive a manual check
Only colorbots possible
Shit advance, aim is horrible
Most of devs for it are pasters


Tried explain everything on the better way but i have a broke english, so sorry for it

I was about to start a thread, but I decided to use this one and ask: is there a way for hardware hacks OTHER THAN DMA to be safe? Or do they all have to resort to flagged methods of mouse movement?

[Toxic.dll]

Originally Posted by petros2x

I was about to start a thread, but I decided to use this one and ask: is there a way for hardware hacks OTHER THAN DMA to be safe? Or do they all have to resort to flagged methods of mouse movement?

I think actually good Memory Cheats are safer than any Hardware Cheat
DMA was to be safer than memory but Riot are focusing on Counter DMA right now so i dont think is a good idea

And Arduino and Raspberry are likely detect, i never see anyone with good stats on radiant dont getting banned

[Ghosts117]

What toxic is saying is true but, you can find good internal cheats that are undetected but you need to find one yourself my friend has a internal cheat and he just plays in diamond-ascendant if he goes to radiant or immortal he is always likely to be banned by manual check

Valorant manual checks are hard to be undetected from even lets say you go unnoticed for 6 months it takes 1 check for the account to be gone but if you are boosting regularly then everything I said doesn't matter just get a internal cheat and sell / boost accounts keep in mind the accounts you boost and sell will get banned eventually

[Toxic.dll]

Originally Posted by Ghosts117

What toxic is saying is true but, you can find good internal cheats that are undetected but you need to find one yourself my friend has a internal cheat and he just plays in diamond-ascendant if he goes to radiant or immortal he is always likely to be banned by manual check

Valorant manual checks are hard to be undetected from even lets say you go unnoticed for 6 months it takes 1 check for the account to be gone but if you are boosting regularly then everything I said doesn't matter just get a internal cheat and sell / boost accounts keep in mind the accounts you boost and sell will get banned eventually

Then his cheat are not Undetected, its just delay ban, riot dont care for cheaters under immortal if you are not going hard
I use a internal cheat and i can stay on Radiant with good stats for over 2 acts, i am under top 100 and ****

Manual checks are not like that, all they do is memory dump you and if your cheat is good will bypass it and all you need do is play legit to dont get banned by Replays Check

[petros2x]

Originally Posted by Toxic.dll

Then his cheat are not Undetected, its just delay ban, riot dont care for cheaters under immortal if you are not going hard
I use a internal cheat and i can stay on Radiant with good stats for over 2 acts, i am under top 100 and ****

Manual checks are not like that, all they do is memory dump you and if your cheat is good will bypass it and all you need do is play legit to dont get banned by Replays Check

I had no idea manual checks consisted of memory dump. Actually, with all due respect, I think it might be something else or even more than just that. I mean: I doubt anyone REALLY knows how it works unless that person works for Riot…

edit: so developers should memory dump their hacks before Riot does so to make sure it is safe, right?

[Toxic.dll]

Yes developers should memory dump own memory while running loader and while in game to try find traces, so they can find it(thats is a pain) and fix it

And what i know they do is Check Vanguard Logs, Watch Replays, Memory Dump
You just get a false security on Hardware, they have more ban vectors than Memory

A memory cheat can also use Arduino to Mouse Input, its just a bad option for It lol thats why good devs dont make Colorbots
Also, it include the biggest detection vector from Softwares, still have a Loader that can get Sigged and Memory Dump and some others Ban Vectors that happens on Memorys too

Originally Posted by petros2x

I had no idea manual checks consisted of memory dump. Actually, with all due respect, I think it might be something else or even more than just that. I mean: I doubt anyone REALLY knows how it works unless that person works for Riot…

edit: so developers should memory dump their hacks before Riot does so to make sure it is safe, right?

[Maestropene123]

Is it possible that they do a manual check and do not detect you?

Originally Posted by Toxic.dll

Yes developers should memory dump own memory while running loader and while in game to try find traces, so they can find it(thats is a pain) and fix it

And what i know they do is Check Vanguard Logs, Watch Replays, Memory Dump
You just get a false security on Hardware, they have more ban vectors than Memory

A memory cheat can also use Arduino to Mouse Input, its just a bad option for It lol thats why good devs dont make Colorbots
Also, it include the biggest detection vector from Softwares, still have a Loader that can get Sigged and Memory Dump and some others Ban Vectors that happens on Memorys too

Is it possible that they do a manual check and do not detect you?

Originally Posted by Toxic.dll

Yes developers should memory dump own memory while running loader and while in game to try find traces, so they can find it(thats is a pain) and fix it

And what i know they do is Check Vanguard Logs, Watch Replays, Memory Dump
You just get a false security on Hardware, they have more ban vectors than Memory

A memory cheat can also use Arduino to Mouse Input, its just a bad option for It lol thats why good devs dont make Colorbots
Also, it include the biggest detection vector from Softwares, still have a Loader that can get Sigged and Memory Dump and some others Ban Vectors that happens on Memorys too

Is it possible that they do a manual check and do not detect you?