i have to agree, sharing files is no problem, but let the other find out how to add them
setting up a server needs a guide(common sense but is ok) but to add things, is better to prove yourself that you are worthy of having them by doing it yourself
btw, why this turned into a "im xx old and im not a kid" thread?
If you weren't still a noob, you would know how much you can learn when you are trying to make an update by yourself, rather than following a guide.
Release the files is ok, is just a matter of time until everyone have them, but if you really want to help everyone, and with everyone I mean, the people who like to learn about deving on SRO, you should stop right now with what you did, a guide will only make people follow steps like brainless sheeps without knowing what they are really doing, and this way no one will learn anything, you will only feed the money greed of most of the crappy server owners.
So, do what you think is better for the "noobs".
i agree with some of this what you said but what you have put here
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Originally Posted by Synx7
you should stop right now with what you did, a guide will only make people follow steps like brainless sheeps without knowing what they are really doing
Then drew and most of the others who have posted guides before the server files was even released should have not made guides ?,
Guides are supposed to be made to start you off and then you work from the basic concept
Did none of us follow them to english patch and everything else we did when we first started
Also you know as well as i do the arabia update is more complex to add for beginners
We have had it working as well
Have we got a public server : no
Do we make a profit : no
Can we make a video and post screen shots, if we want : yes
The users and public will know what servers are best to join,
And test it with a free account and if it is not a good server you should not spend any $ there anyway
That is just plain stupid
The database and client can be released with all the Arabia adds done
will we do? this i dont think so because this will just make all servers the same
But will they take it from the media pk2s of the servers that do have them then yes
But can they get them running idk.
Maybe this is why the devs who really know what there doing dont even post anymore.
And why they need to? they dont need guides there already that good
im not flaming or moaning it is a point that needed to be addressed.
i have to agree, sharing files is no problem, but let the other find out how to add them
setting up a server needs a guide(common sense but is ok) but to add things, is better to prove yourself that you are worthy of having them by doing it yourself
btw, why this turned into a "im xx old and im not a kid" thread?
cuz he describes egy ppl 12-18 as kids but we dont want trouble can u add rule to stop that ppl could lose their minds and start fighting
i agree with some of this what you said but what you have put here
Then drew and most of the others who have posted guides before the server files was even released should have not made guides ?,
Guides are supposed to be made to start you off and then you work from the basic concept
Did none of us follow them to english patch and everything else we did when we first started
Also you know as well as i do the arabia update is more complex to add for beginners
We have had it working as well
Have we got a public server : no
Do we make a profit : no
Can we make a video and post screen shots, if we want : yes
The users and public will know what servers are best to join,
And test it with a free account and if it is not a good server you should not spend any $ there anyway
That is just plain stupid
The database and client can be released with all the Arabia adds done
will we do? this i dont think so because this will just make all servers the same
But will they take it from the media pk2s of the servers that do have them then yes
But can they get them running idk.
Maybe this is why the devs who really know what there doing dont even post anymore.
And why they need to? they dont need guides there already that good
im not flaming or moaning it is a point that needed to be addressed.
Good luck to all
Drew guides were always well documented and he explained very well and with a good structure, step by step, what he was going to explain on his guide, the theory part explained the concept he wanted to make and how he will do it, and the other was always well explained.
PK2 guides were not that important back before the server files release because it didnt gave money, the people like me, who where making guides, always explained well why we were about to modify something and for what reason, and people still experimented a lot with the client and always learned something new by themselves. The problem is that since the serverfiles release, pk2 edit knoweldge actually is profitable, and you can get money from it, so instead of learning, people are just looking for fast and easy money and simply copy stuff from guides and sell it to pservers saying its "his work", or simply make a server and make threads everywhere expecting everyone to help him to keep his shitty server up so he can continue getting money from the players.
The current guides about serverfiles doesnt explain a shit about what the user is doing, it just says "insert this shit on this table, then insert this other shit on this other table, and also execute this query", without explain anything really, just telling what to do for make something.
Few examples of old and new guides:
My pk2 edit guides:
I used the same structure as drew guides because they were always easy to follow and understand.
Pushedx random guide:
You actually always learnt something from the guides, you know what you wanted to do, what you was doing and what every single thing did.
Actual guides examples:
Silkroad-R Skills:
Where is the theory? What the fuck does those lines do? For what are the Group Skill lines? What does the txt files that I donwload contain?
Custom names on NPC's:
No explanation of nothing at all, what the fuck did I just applied on my server?
And I could continue. Guides are not guides anymore, but steps you have to follow without know what you are doing to apply something on your server in order to get more players and money.
Drew guides were always well documented and he explained very well and with a good structure, step by step, what he was going to explain on his guide, the theory part explained the concept he wanted to make and how he will do it, and the other was always well explained.
PK2 guides were not that important back before the server files release because it didnt gave money, the people like me, who where making guides, always explained well why we were about to modify something and for what reason, and people still experimented a lot with the client and always learned something new by themselves. The problem is that since the serverfiles release, pk2 edit knoweldge actually is profitable, and you can get money from it, so instead of learning, people are just looking for fast and easy money and simply copy stuff from guides and sell it to pservers saying its "his work", or simply make a server and make threads everywhere expecting everyone to help him to keep his shitty server up so he can continue getting money from the players.
The current guides about serverfiles doesnt explain a shit about what the user is doing, it just says "insert this shit on this table, then insert this other shit on this other table, and also execute this query", without explain anything really, just telling what to do for make something.
Few examples of old and new guides:
My pk2 edit guides:
I used the same structure as drew guides because they were always easy to follow and understand.
Pushedx random guide:
You actually always learnt something from the guides, you know what you wanted to do, what you was doing and what every single thing did.
Actual guides examples:
Silkroad-R Skills:
Where is the theory? What the fuck does those lines do? For what are the Group Skill lines? What does the txt files that I donwload contain?
Custom names on NPC's:
No explanation of nothing at all, what the fuck did I just applied on my server?
And I could continue. Guides are not guides anymore, but steps you have to follow without know what you are doing to apply something on your server in order to get more players and money.
I hope I made my point.
what you are trying to say that's if there are guides it must be helpful but not blind steps i agree with you at all
everybody just shut the fk up and let the guy to make a guide
I hope you're just kidding if not you are the perfect example of what we call a brainless guy
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"Release" its a just a link what you are releasing ? (ups sorry you release that link).
I think you must do a guide explaining what is the WorldID and the relationships with the Game_World table and game_world_config. Also refinstance_world_region and refregion.
And then give the chance for the people who want to learn something to take that knowledge and add it by themselves.
i dont share for free with egyptions kids !
its the same person !
most of the egyptions silkroad players are 12~18 ! and i dont like to make those "kids" have every thing for free
specially when some one pop out and say Hi man i'm a silkroad developer
i didn`t noticed that " adding items to npc " is everything ^^
the trues is that u just looking for money , its not about who have what , u just don`t like to give anything for free , and when ur small brain got it that everything will be shared with u or no , so u wanna be the hero whos sharing everything , cheers
i didn`t noticed that " adding items to npc " is everything ^^
the trues is that u just looking for money , its not about who have what , u just don`t like to give anything for free , and when ur small brain got it that everything will be shared with u or no , so u wanna be the hero whos sharing everything , cheers
Hi
i need little help, i need know something
example: database _RefObjCommon+ _RefObjItem = client side itemdata.txt
example: database _RefObjCommon+ _RefObjChar = client side chardata.txt
etc etc. Ihope, i will get help here.. Arabia maps have good work... :-)
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This Lines Only for DateBase!.
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work some to put them in media.pk2 ^^
First: _RefObjCommon
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For now, I've found 3 loading screens from Baghdad town. This images are NOT FAKE, are official images from the SRO-R client of Japan. Enjoy!
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Myth Sro Arabia Update 09/11/2012 - SRO Private Server - 2 Replies Hey guys.
Its Myth Sro Arabia Update
Click here
What do you think about it?