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better make Group euphoria broken, for "fun" boss hunting at immortalls if you know what i mean lol



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rip str avenger, dpp 2x 1k
Str Dhans are OP with 3rd party buffs and scrolls, because PP and DPP are simply too powerful. Dhans are supposed to have medium damage output, medium defense, and a tactical advantage. PP and DPP are so strong that they don't even have to catch you first to kill you, all they have to do is Death Call you and kill you. They can brute force their way through everything.

Back on Xor Rohan, your typical lvl 99 Full Str Guardian with 4 51's and full Bedron would have around 25k HP with Alm, Arcane, and HP Crystal.

Let's say a Str Avenger with with equal-tier gear comes up to you and hits you while he's self buffed, he's only going to deal about 150 damage per hit max, but that little 150 reg hit can be turned into a 1700 PP. Now let's say he gets lvl 7 RM, CS, Alm, Arcane, Enh. Att., Glad. License, and and Alm Scroll like you, oh, and a Critical Blow Scroll as well. Let's give him some WA Katars instead of Melee + DD. Now he's hitting 480s with his regular hits on you. How hard does he hit now?

This is how PP deals its damage:

480 (regular hit damage) x 2.4 (lvl 7 PP) x 1.5 (Crit) x 1.4 (40% boost from lvl 7 MR) x 1.3 (30% Critical Blow) x 1.47 (PC gives bonus damage to your PP Crits EVEN at lvl 5) x 1.66 < The second boost you get from making PC Level 7.

Now his PP is doing 7670. That weak regular hit just got 15 times stronger.
Let's compare that to level 7 Final Crash, which deals 220% extra damage, or 3.2 times as much. You're hitting 450 on the Dhan, so it's only going to deal a measly 1440 damage.



7760, that's from 1 PP.

Now if he uses DPP, he'll deal 8,300 with each hit, so that's 16,600 damage.

7,760 + 16,600 = 24,360. After that, one more regular hit will kill you.

That's ridiculous. The Dhan can kill you in literally 2 seconds, but he can easily run away from your OS and CS combo if it's just you and him. On Xor, every equal Dhan VS. Guardian fight that I saw went like this:

The Guardian uses OS, rushes the Dhan, uses CS.
He uses Blue Drain before Rush expires, then switches to their shield, uses Charge, then Knight Symbol.

The Guardian's stuns and attacks are over, and the Dhan is alive with 20-40% of his HP. The Dhan pouches the guardian and sits. Right before pouch ends, he uses Silence.

Pouch Expires, the Dhan uses PP and DPP, the Guardian dies in 2 seconds.

TL;DR: PC, MR, and Critical Blow boost the power of PP and DPP by too much. These huge boosts are necessary for Dhans when they are self buffed and have low power to base it off of, but when they get fully buffed and have high power, the high boosts make them overpowered,


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Str Dhans are OP with 3rd party buffs and scrolls, because PP and DPP are simply too powerful. Dhans are supposed to have medium damage output, medium defense, and a tactical advantage. PP and DPP are so strong that they don't even have to catch you first to kill you, all they have to do is Death Call you and kill you. They can brute force their way through everything.

Back on Xor Rohan, your typical lvl 99 Full Str Guardian with 4 51's and full Bedron would have around 25k HP with Alm, Arcane, and HP Crystal.

Let's say a Str Avenger with with equal-tier gear comes up to you and hits you while he's self buffed, he's only going to deal about 150 damage per hit max, but that little 150 reg hit can be turned into a 1700 PP. Now let's say he gets lvl 7 RM, CS, Alm, Arcane, Enh. Att., Glad. License, and and Alm Scroll like you, oh, and a Critical Blow Scroll as well. Let's give him some WA Katars instead of Melee + DD. Now he's hitting 480s with his regular hits on you. How hard does he hit now?

This is how PP deals its damage:

480 (regular hit damage) x 2.4 (lvl 7 PP) x 1.5 (Crit) x 1.4 (40% boost from lvl 7 MR) x 1.3 (30% Critical Blow) x 1.47 (PC gives bonus damage to your PP Crits EVEN at lvl 5) x 1.66 < The second boost you get from making PC Level 7.

Now his PP is doing 7670. That weak regular hit just got 15 times stronger.
Let's compare that to level 7 Final Crash, which deals 220% extra damage, or 3.2 times as much. You're hitting 450 on the Dhan, so it's only going to deal a measly 1440 damage.



7760, that's from 1 PP.

Now if he uses DPP, he'll deal 8,300 with each hit, so that's 16,600 damage.

7,760 + 16,600 = 24,360. After that, one more regular hit will kill you.

That's ridiculous. The Dhan can kill you in literally 2 seconds, but he can easily run away from your OS and CS combo if it's just you and him. On Xor, every equal Dhan VS. Guardian fight that I saw went like this:

The Guardian uses OS, rushes the Dhan, uses CS.
He uses Blue Drain before Rush expires, then switches to their shield, uses Charge, then Knight Symbol.

The Guardian's stuns and attacks are over, and the Dhan is alive with 20-40% of his HP. The Dhan pouches the guardian and sits. Right before pouch ends, he uses Silence.

Pouch Expires, the Dhan uses PP and DPP, the Guardian dies in 2 seconds.

TL;DR: PC, MR, and Critical Blow boost the power of PP and DPP by too much. These huge boosts are necessary for Dhans when they are self buffed and have low power to base it off of, but when they get fully buffed and have high power, the high boosts make them overpowered,

Are you working for Ynk? I think u should.


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Making the buffs only "self-buffs" will only make sense if all of the skill tree includes empowering of each class on their own. Just like in iRohan.
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Nah keep it fresh. No **** for anyone, let everyone work for everything.
I am thinking pretty minor so like maybe a 100% mount or a special title (if they have title system).

Wouldnt be anything anyone else couldn't acquire, and it wouldnt be something gave a disadvantage.


Even liek start Honor points (like 200-500)
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Str Dhans are OP with 3rd party buffs and scrolls, because PP and DPP are simply too powerful. Dhans are supposed to have medium damage output, medium defense, and a tactical advantage. PP and DPP are so strong that they don't even have to catch you first to kill you, all they have to do is Death Call you and kill you. They can brute force their way through everything.

Back on Xor Rohan, your typical lvl 99 Full Str Guardian with 4 51's and full Bedron would have around 25k HP with Alm, Arcane, and HP Crystal.

Let's say a Str Avenger with with equal-tier gear comes up to you and hits you while he's self buffed, he's only going to deal about 150 damage per hit max, but that little 150 reg hit can be turned into a 1700 PP. Now let's say he gets lvl 7 RM, CS, Alm, Arcane, Enh. Att., Glad. License, and and Alm Scroll like you, oh, and a Critical Blow Scroll as well. Let's give him some WA Katars instead of Melee + DD. Now he's hitting 480s with his regular hits on you. How hard does he hit now?

This is how PP deals its damage:

480 (regular hit damage) x 2.4 (lvl 7 PP) x 1.5 (Crit) x 1.4 (40% boost from lvl 7 MR) x 1.3 (30% Critical Blow) x 1.47 (PC gives bonus damage to your PP Crits EVEN at lvl 5) x 1.66 < The second boost you get from making PC Level 7.

Now his PP is doing 7670. That weak regular hit just got 15 times stronger.
Let's compare that to level 7 Final Crash, which deals 220% extra damage, or 3.2 times as much. You're hitting 450 on the Dhan, so it's only going to deal a measly 1440 damage.



7760, that's from 1 PP.

Now if he uses DPP, he'll deal 8,300 with each hit, so that's 16,600 damage.

7,760 + 16,600 = 24,360. After that, one more regular hit will kill you.

That's ridiculous. The Dhan can kill you in literally 2 seconds, but he can easily run away from your OS and CS combo if it's just you and him. On Xor, every equal Dhan VS. Guardian fight that I saw went like this:

The Guardian uses OS, rushes the Dhan, uses CS.
He uses Blue Drain before Rush expires, then switches to their shield, uses Charge, then Knight Symbol.

The Guardian's stuns and attacks are over, and the Dhan is alive with 20-40% of his HP. The Dhan pouches the guardian and sits. Right before pouch ends, he uses Silence.

Pouch Expires, the Dhan uses PP and DPP, the Guardian dies in 2 seconds.

TL;DR: PC, MR, and Critical Blow boost the power of PP and DPP by too much. These huge boosts are necessary for Dhans when they are self buffed and have low power to base it off of, but when they get fully buffed and have high power, the high boosts make them overpowered,
Your calculation is wrong, since its even worse.
under the hood PP/DPP is multiplied by a factor of your strength and PC actually adds 100% on top of what it stats.
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Yeah it says 100% but its not normal x 100% = normal its normal x 100% = 2x normal.
Pretty broken but still thatshow that works in iRohan.
I am sure asfRohan got around it to balance it out
Either way Dhans should require they arsenal to kill someone not a 1 hit run tactic.
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Yeah it says 100% but its not normal x 100% = normal its normal x 100% = 2x normal.
Pretty broken but still thatshow that works in iRohan.
I am sure asfRohan got around it to balance it out
Either way Dhans should require they arsenal to kill someone not a 1 hit run tactic.
Shouldn't really trust the descriptions, they can make them look whatever they want meanwhile having a totally different status or effect

And tho, if dhans can't 2shot and sprint away all indo's will hate you
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Shouldn't really trust the descriptions, they can make them look whatever they want meanwhile having a totally different status or effect

And tho, if dhans can't 2shot and sprint away all indo's will hate you


all indo will spam on this server something like ''wkwkwkkwkw fail dhan 2k'' or ''fail dekan 4k ffs wkkwkw''
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Doesn't matter if that's the damage output and Max HP is 10-15k o.o
It should be fun.

Players have been spoiled with insane damage being called balanced and free starting items.
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You cant predict how everything would scale plus when you include whenever new items(updates or w.e) get included(cuz that eventually will happen) that also affects the entire scale by a way, so its obvious there is no true balance especially in rohan, either its broken or too weak(or "balanced" but better go with the stronger class) thats how it is, so what you can expect is updated version of oldrohan where not everything is broken, but i would count to be "balanced" but playable, HP/DMG they dont really matter(i mean if you have x hp and u get 1 shotted it doesnt matter how much is the x dmg) end of the day rohan was designed to be broken
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You people do realize he will not give a **** about what you post here he will allways do it as he wants. He's allways been like that dont forget " He knows whats best he plays it more then everyone " same story happens with him everytime someone trys to point out an idea.
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You people do realize he will not give a **** about what you post here he will allways do it as he wants. He's allways been like that dont forget " He knows whats best he plays it more then everyone " same story happens with him everytime someone trys to point out an idea.
Its his server, so nothing new there :l


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