[Release&Update] New/Updated Files (#3)

[InkDevil]

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[toyfarm]

i know some one else who's making new **** but that lilitas is amazing.

[Arucardo]

First of all, nice work.

You shouldn't complain about the dying community of Devs. The devs who know all the stuff are not sharing their knowledge und no one here is willing to explain newbis how Rappelz works. They are just releasing tools, thats it.

If they would be more tutorials and explanations about how the sframe, herlock, aurora and the database are communicating and how certain files can be manipulated, there would be new more stuff from new people who are willing to learn. And if someone is interested in learning something and is asking around then toxic reactions follow.

Now its just like 5 people make everything. Think about that.

[Arucardo]

It's good to hear that there are still some devs out there who want to share their knowledge.

Originally Posted by LamiaCore

But I already gave some ppl explanations (in text or via teamviewer) how to do several things with models like modifying or import of non-rappelz-models - or for example the WoW-Lich-King...I showed its import-dev the basics how to do that, and then he was able to get the missing informations by himself.

Teaching people is not a bad thing. I just think its not efficient to teach everyone personally, especially if people are retiring after few months.
Helping people to help themselves is the way to go and it's a better time investment too.
This is not a personal appeal to you because you did pretty good job in terms of education (i looked up your threads). I hope some of the other devs who are hiding in the shadow of silence are reading and thinking about this.

[アルカード]

Originally Posted by Arucardo

It's good to hear that there are still some devs out there who want to share their knowledge.



Teaching people is not a bad thing. I just think its not efficient to teach everyone personally, especially if people are retiring after few months.
Helping people to help themselves is the way to go and it's a better time investment too.
This is not a personal appeal to you because you did pretty good job in terms of education (i looked up your threads). I hope some of the other devs who are hiding in the shadow of silence are reading and thinking about this.

well i am one who is lurking around and learning from lamia,i learned some thing till now,how to edit already models and new textures,skill textures(colors) etc,but i wana learn how to use other games models to rappelz and it is bit hard for me but i will try to learn it.

[toyfarm]

Originally Posted by LamiaCore

First, thanks

To the other part:
That's not exactly true. (but it's sadly true in some facts)
It may be some DEVs don't teach their know-how to others.
But I already gave some ppl explanations (in text or via teamviewer) how to do several things with models like modifying or import of non-rappelz-models - or for example the WoW-Lich-King...I showed its import-dev the basics how to do that, and then he was able to get the missing informations by himself.

Some of them learned fast, some others still need time.
Ofc, in some sections of rappelz-developing the transmission of knowledge lacks a lot (I have for example not that much knowledge about writing tools)...but in section "map,models&textures" I wouldn't say there couldn't be more.

In fact, you're right with the bad echo on questions asked here...
And you're right that it would be needed to get more newcoming devs.
Even if I didn't complain about the dying community of devs,
I complained about the fact, that the playerbase of rappelz dies out
because of lazyness to install things with more interesting environmental content.




I just can talk about that dev-section, because that's the one I have my knowledge in.
In other ones, don't know how it is going there with newbies.

"someone" has made some really nice tools for the new epics and will be releasing them eventually

[SilentWisdom]

Not to toot my own horn but I gotta couple ringers coming out too, no idea when but they are working pretty nice in the development environment

[toyfarm]

Originally Posted by SilentWisdom

Not to toot my own horn but I gotta couple ringers coming out too, no idea when but they are working pretty nice in the development environment

trade ya ?

[toyfarm]

Originally Posted by LamiaCore

I know some of these tools (I also made some requests :3 ) and I'm going to be really glad when they are released
Waiting for it ^_^

check your pucking pm's

[Crismonson]

Great work, beautiful looks, keep up your great work. I am 100% sure that most of people enjoy it.

[EroGamer]

Thanks for the awesome new/edited mobs models, but how can I add them to my P-Server and use them in-game? (Mobs ID..etc) I couldn't find a full clear guide for importing new/edited monsters to the game, as I'm sure it's not easy as just drop and drag method but need editing db.monster...etc.

[EroGamer]

Originally Posted by InkDevil

Always depends on your server-epic.
In general you need to know two ways:

1. Imported model with existing Emotion.
->look for an entry with original model, Copyright & edit it to your new model with new ID
->in general this works already if you Patch monsterresource and monsterfiles.

2. Imported ones with own motions
-> you need to insert NEW monstermotion_id with fitting CharacterMotions, which also need to be added
-> Copy any entry and change model & motion_id to new one.
-> Patch Monsterresource,MonsterMotion and charactermotion together wird monsterfiles and it should work.

Then you can do quality tuning like Race, species, Drops,etc

Even with your guide, I'm ashamed to say I couldn't know how to do that (as I'm a total noob when it comes to this, I just started learning about rappelz modding days ago, although I created my own P-Server after a lot of struggles, I'm still a noob... so can you give me a step-by-step detailed guide? And which software to use other than SQL Server editing DB?! I imported a modded Wolf monster with nx3 (+dds) file to the game after encrypting it to .*** resource file and putting it on resource folder and it works fine (it replaces default wolf skin on the game) I was able to do that following a video guide, but I can't apply that guide on your files since your files are different, I need to import your new Lilitas texture on game and make it works, I want really appreciate a full in-depth guide for that!

[SilentSummoner]

evpverers everyday coding and making new things nice!
but sadly 0 official files/latest version/stable/crowded/succeeded/well balanced Rappelz server
I don't even know why you guys keep making stuff like that.

I AM just asking cuz im rly confised here, since 2011 no server last more than 24 monthes i guess xD

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