[Moderator Position] Silkroad Online

[supbro1]

Agree with the above, the applicant in question doesn't really promotes his self like a grown up person that can handle this kind of responsibillity.

[Mass Mods]

Originally Posted by Julian2008

I vote no.
Why?
Lemme quote ""if given the moderator position I will be able to devote my time to helping in the Silkroad section FULL TIME"" Why you can't devote your time to helping the Sro section by reporting posts?
As Yo123 said you don't report enough posts and that doesn't make you an active member looking to clear the forum.
Even though I'm not that active anymore, I've been browsing the forums once or twice/day but I didn't see much of your posts.
And as John Dread said I fully agree that the current moderators are doing a damn fine job keeping the sections clean.
"if they don't want me as a mod then it's not my loss" This part is totally wrong.You are acting like you are the best guy out there for that position, NOT! There are many other members that are helping the community more than you do.

My 2 cents.
Goodluck

1. I devote my time to posting on the forums with useful informative information that will HELP users.

2. Being a moderator does not mean that you only report people. But rather to assist when they need it in the open forums. Otherwise, the only real function in your eyes of a moderator is to sit there and click the report button every second of browsing the forums. And I figure since all the mods to seem to do that right now, they have post reporting so under control that a mouse fart would be heard in their presence. Alot more can be done for the community than just clicking report. All that really does is cleans the forums, it does not add to them or answer questions for people that need help. Last time I checked, the main reason anyone has forums is so people can be assisted and post for help when they need it.

3. Please explain how I have the majority of the post count in the iSRO sections, when I somehow don't post often? I will be glad to call you out, and post some links for you, just in case your search function button is not working properly.

4. John is correct that the section is clean and in order, but still does not mean that more helping hands are not equally beneficial.

5. I am here everyday, helping to make this site better for the iSRO users. So yes, I would say I am the best for the job, since any monkey can sit behind a desk and click report all day, I prefer to make myself alot more useful and beneficial to the whole community by assisting users hands-on. Rather than to make myself unknown.


and @supbro1.

I will admit I still think you are a scammer, 14 posts, and you are only selling sbot accounts which no one seems to buy. And no iTrader feedback.

You are clearly holding a grudge because of what I said in your black market section. You basing your vote because I speak my mind on you as being a scammer is not exactly a sound vote. If anything, I helped the community even more by calling you out, at least it will avoid someone getting ripped off.

[Huseby]

Originally Posted by baracoudaking

closing topics and keeping threads ordered is not there only job , a mod must be active and be in contact with players.

Correction no, a moderator need to be a friendly person who takes actions when people start crossing the elitepvp rules, many of the moderators here dont play the games they moderate on.(This despite the fact they have had to been active in the first section they applied to).

[lolrko]

Originally Posted by xMedeia

I think Mass would make a great mod. He's always there to help when you need him, he's a good person who has helped the community alot so far, and I think he would do a great job, if given the opportunity to do so.

I think a big Plus point is also that he's not only active in Psection of SRO, because quite honestly, I haven't seen you around much Yo123, and I've been here for a while now ( No disrespect ).

/Disagree
Haven't seen Mass Mods since world war II
He's not active anymore, and suddenly he's posting an application?
No from me.

[Julian2008]

You clearly haven't gotten my point.Moderators should resolve the reported posts and not spend their time searching them trough the whole forum.
A new mod is required when the amount of infractions/double posts and other rules violations cannot be handled by the current mod team.
In my opinion you should apply for Forum Guardian position until the above situation happens.
I agree with lorko with the sudden increase in your activity is meant to increase your chances of becoming a moderator.

Oh, btw I almost forgot: You are calling me out with what?Your wizard/cleric guide that's not updated and which would take 5mins to fix?You call that devotion to epvp?
And I am allowed to post my opinion.What can you do about that?Nothin..

[silkje123]

If you can help me I vote for yes

ibot isn't working

[Mass Mods]

Hey Julian, food for thought...

You have more posts than me yet thanked less times than me.

Seems I do a bit more for the community than you do. I am entitled to my opinions as well.

And what boggles me, is why you were a mod to begin with when yet I do more/have done more for the overall community.. Or so it seems...

@lolrko, is it common for you to leave a 5 day gap between logging in to the server or is that a new habit? Amazing how people have something to say when they are barely around.

As for my Wizard/Cleric Guide. I have not hit 110 cap yet, but when I do I will update it. How about you comment on my work in the past with AgBot, or now with iBot, you won't dare get in to that because you have nothing against me when it comes to that. But I can say that your help in any isro department is lacking, so your input on my application holds no grounds as far as I am concerned, and I am not really worried about your opinions because your post count in the isro sections are scarce as of lately. You are a middleman at best when it comes to selling/trading. Not really mod material or one to judge for that matter.


There are some things on the forums that I disagree with that the mods do in the sections I am active in, such as keeping sticky's that are barely active and have less views than some of the threads which I have made that have more views and more replies in less time, which are active on a daily basis, but again, who am I to say. They somehow have their reasons I guess, but whatever, other forums with similar topics will capitalize on this forums mistakes. And all you guys will do is tell me reasons why things are they way they are.

The forums would be better if people as a WHOLE made decisions and not just those given power. That's my opinion.

For testing reasons I have not responded/assisted anyone in the threads in the isro section, and I have yet to see any of the so called active mods or users with know how over their chipping in and assisting with needs of forum users. (a couple of users are there and die hard and this is not meant for them) Please tell me, what is the point of having forums if your users have no use for them? Think about that for a while. Soon the section will turn in to questions only, with no help being given, what happens at that point? Users will find other forums with people that do help out.

But your right, I am simply retarded, and cannot help out one bit. Even though I have not seen an ounce of REAL help from a mod within the past week in the isro sections. maybe I am ass backwards, or the way things are done are just a little more screwy. (no offense intended)

But honestly, how can you keep sticky's that no one is interested in, and leave threads with way more hits and views in the normal threads sections? Who's job is that? Cause someone is definitely slacking in the "keeping things in order" department. As depicted below.


Just a few examples of what I am talking about regarding things that require changing:



Sticky, yet rated 2.32 of 5 out of 33 votes O.o hmmmm..... I am guessing there's a good bs reason for that. Who was it exactly that said the "mods" have it under control? And let's not go too much in to detail on how many people have been banned using this bot.. And then,



1 vote, and Sticky, only roughly 19,000 views. Apparently there are some mods picking "favorites" when they don't deserve to be.

HardMod, TaxiTool, my iBot guide, etc ALL have more Sticky credibility than those two. Considering they ALL get more views, replies, etc than the other ones as stated.

As for the guides section, actual character builds should be stickied, not just random PK2 guides when the bots today already have anti stealth built right in... And the link, about trading and selling accounts, should clearly be in the the Black Market section, please, correct me if I am wrong.

And you guys are telling me that the mods are doing their jobs, unless of course you guys are going to tell me that isin't up to the mods? Please stop me before I die laughing.. Because, somewhere along the lines, someone didn't take a good long hard look at the section the way I have. Forgive me for sounding like an asshole but seriously now, take 5 mins and look at what is stickied and if after those 5 mins you feel that all things in the sticky sections should remain then I will hold a gun to my head and pull the trigger...

Just my opinion, but people are picking favorites and that doesn't necessarily benefit the site.

[xMedeia]

Originally Posted by lolrko

/Disagree
Haven't seen Mass Mods since world war II
He's not active anymore, and suddenly he's posting an application?
No from me.

He hasn't been active for a while, true. But I think the sro section could really use an extra mod. If you'd actually go to the iSro section you'll see alot of stuff that's just not right ( And honestly I do plenty reports on a daily basis ). I don't think modding is just going true the reports and delete whatever is there. It's good to actually see that a Mod has his eye on the section ( You'd remember the old days where we had active mods in SRO section, InvisibleNoob, strukel, Spy etc)

Off topic, I support your Blackmarket Ap tho. So many bs going on there. Takes days if not a week+ to get anything done there..

[Yo123]

just to quote that image:

guess why drew's work is almost all-time stickied? He's contributing awesome works to the community, and just because this was is only useful for programmers it doesnt mean it wouldnt be worth a sticky!Cause in fact it is, cause it's awesome, and the programmers in here do want something as well.

I think that Sro-King Sticky is rated that bad cause (in my opinion) , the bot really sucks.

Before offering statements, think about the reason why things are the way they are.

Thank you.

[Mass Mods]

Originally Posted by Yo123

just to quote that image:

guess why drew's work is almost all-time stickied? He's contributing awesome works to the community, and just because this was is only useful for programmers it doesnt mean it wouldnt be worth a sticky!Cause in fact it is, cause it's awesome, and the programmers in here do want something as well.

I think that Sro-King Sticky is rated that bad cause (in my opinion) , the bot really sucks.

Before offering statements, think about the reason why things are the way they are.

Thank you.

I understand the reason but I do not agree, like you said with the SRO-King sticky, "it sucks" - coming from a moderator..., so why have something that sucks, stickied... obviously a bad move, for the forums, as well as general public that browses the forums. Some of the things and where they are placed, are just in the non-common sense portion of things. There are threads that should be stickied that aren't, and then there are some that are stickied that just should not be.

Drew does make useful contributions to the forums, I am not disputing that, but to have it where the general public will see it, and not care for it is bad placement. Since most of the users that visit this site are not programmers. It shows that it is in a bad spot due to the amount of views to that particular thread over the period of time that it has had in that spot within the sticky section. It is a "topic" that nobody really gives a damn about or to even bother browsing that topic... My thread just below Drew's has been on the forums for less times, has had more activity, more views, and more user posts than his in a much shorter amount of time. My opinion would be that my post deserves a sticky, not because I did it, but because has earned a sticky, vs Drew's which is pretty much a dead topic and only there as I said before "because people are picking favorites"

I am not sure how much more clear I could be, but I have owned and operated a website so I know that things are a little out of whack here. Usually, when viewing a website (any of them) you go with the flow of things, in this case, the flow is generated towards my thread, rather than Drew's, and rather than SROKing... Hell, for keeping SRO-King up there, you mine as well tell users to global that they want to get banned, since most of its users has been banned, I am sure that will be good for this forums reputation, seeing as it is still stickied and multiple users have already confirmed they have been banned, how many more until the boards start losing members?

[Yo123]

Originally Posted by Mass Mods

I understand the reason but I do not agree, like you said with the SRO-King sticky, "it sucks" - coming from a moderator..., so why have something that sucks, stickied... obviously a bad move, for the forums, as well as general public that browses the forums. Some of the things and where they are placed, are just in the non-common sense portion of things. There are threads that should be stickied that aren't, and then there are some that are stickied that just should not be.

Drew does make useful contributions to the forums, I am not disputing that, but to have it where the general public will see it, and not care for it is bad placement. Since most of the users that visit this site are not programmers. It shows that it is in a bad spot due to the amount of views to that particular thread over the period of time that it has had in that spot within the sticky section. It is a "topic" that nobody really gives a damn about or to even bother browsing that topic... My thread just below Drew's has been on the forums for less times, has had more activity, more views, and more user posts than his in a much shorter amount of time. My opinion would be that my post deserves a sticky, not because I did it, but because has earned a sticky, vs Drew's which is pretty much a dead topic and only there as I said before "because people are picking favorites"

I am not sure how much more clear I could be, but I have owned and operated a website so I know that things are a little out of whack here. Usually, when viewing a website (any of them) you go with the flow of things, in this case, the flow is generated towards my thread, rather than Drew's, and rather than SROKing... Hell, for keeping SRO-King up there, you mine as well tell users to global that they want to get banned, since most of its users has been banned, I am sure that will be good for this forums reputation, seeing as it is still stickied and multiple users have already confirmed they have been banned, how many more until the boards start losing members?

I mentioned my personal opinion about the bot, but that doesn't mean others do dislike it as well! We have to act in favor of the community and not in our own.

Keeping that sticky got it's reasons, and if you do think you could do better, make your own website and see where you'll get.


Thank you

[Julian2008]

Mass_Mods so you are saying Drew's work ain't useful?I wish all his threads were sticky coz everything he posts helps the community more than your How to make a bot work thread.
Why is that? People use Sbot, Isrobot etc and also iBot was made by stealing the source from Invi and that's so so not cool.
People can make a bot work but they cannot code a loader so that's why I consider Drew's work more important.

[REDTORCH]

†Sorry but i vote for maybe, cause silkroad online have 4 current mod and also im thinkin what yo123 have said *confuse

[Mass Mods]

Originally Posted by Yo123

I mentioned my personal opinion about the bot, but that doesn't mean others do dislike it as well! We have to act in favor of the community and not in our own.

Keeping that sticky got it's reasons, and if you do think you could do better, make your own website and see where you'll get.


Thank you

I know you were stating your opinion, but is also obviously known by the community that the bot is getting the reputation for getting people constantly banned etc, which is why it is only rated at 2.32 stars out of five. Which is the lowest rated thread within the particular forum it is in. Would it not be FOR the community to remove a thread lowest rated with most votes, and replace it with something more useful FOR the community?? If you don't see the fact that this thread has caused MORE PROBLEMS than good for the community, then there is something wrong with this picture (I will hopefully be under the impression that you have read through the thread)..


@Julian2008

Mass_Mods so you are saying Drew's work ain't useful?I wish all his threads were sticky coz everything he posts helps the community more than your How to make a bot work thread.
Why is that? People use Sbot, Isrobot etc and also iBot was made by stealing the source from Invi and that's so so not cool.
People can make a bot work but they cannot code a loader so that's why I consider Drew's work more important.

I will quote something I said in a previous post to answer your newest question.

Drew does make useful contributions to the forums, I am not disputing that

And thank God (with no disrespect intended) all his post's aren't stickied because these forums would get empty really fast, why won't you compare the amount of people that have actually viewed and taken interest in his edx thread vs. my iBot guide, and in how much of a time frame, there are more user replies and useful info in my thread than in his thread, just compare them it's not hard to see that the numbers speak for themselves... More people are interested in botting than in an edx viewer how-to...., nobody really cares for that particular thread which the numbers say within themselves, I never said anything against the actual user, just that the thread in question is NOT in favor of the general population of the forums users compared in number to other threads.


Though it may not be cool, in general most USERS do NOT care about who created the source, but rather that they have something to use, credit doesn't really matter the the general population, to mods it might, but to users that just wanna bot... do not care where it comes from or who gets credit... When something is good, it's good. And they just want it.

What is more useful for people, a loader? Or a bot program that plays the entire game for you, vs. just logging you in...

Can you guys not see my rationale here? I am pointing out NUMBER which is facts and proof, and you guys just say it's more important just because he has impressed you in the past (if there is another reason please tell?

Like I said, I think Drew has created some kickass things in the past, just this one is not so good and shouldn't really be where it is (with numbers playing factor). I am not trying to get in a pissing contest with the mods, I am just pointing out facts based on numbers and votes to support my argument. I understand that the mods think this is their site and I am not arguing that, simply that I am just making suggestions to help make it BETTER and more efficient than it currently is.

[Yo123]

Please open up your mind a little more. Bot is Bot and Fully Working Bot = Sticky. Agbot is stickied as well , although all of us know it's the " I'll ban you straight ahead" bot.That's just the way the business works. And I think all of Drew's Threads are stickied somewhere^^.


Btw if you want to become a moderator, I'd really like to read your opinion towards the current poll. Stated please.
Just btw : Which of your iBot tuts do you want me to delete? Mods should know that multiposting a thread is not allowed. It's going to be stickied in the guides section tho, but I'll let you chose which one