[App SRO]Bane v2

[Dr.Abdelfattah]

i Say Yes and GL

[Yo123]

Originally Posted by Nezekan

What we need is:

*A group of decent moderators, which are respected in our community but also have the abilities and perks of good moderators

*Decent management from above

*Teamwork

ya talking about the Yo'ster?

Anyways...
I was the one inviting Bane to our section, as I thought it would be a good decision for the SRO section, which it has been on one side while the other side was that he simply lacked the feeling for communication with the SRO members. The section is quite clean as of now, which is obviously the work of TheConArtist and Bane and I'm grateful for all they did, but fitting in into the World of Silkroad is something different as people are relying on different values for their daily chitchat and you simply have to tolerate them and treat them in a different manner, which is probably the point where Bane failed.
i.e.: If they start a trollface war, close it with a trollface saying: "Pwned Y'All". Once they see you're like them , they start accepting you and appreciating your work/actions.
I won't utter a yes or no now, but I'm inviting Bane to play Silkroad with me and to take part in the forums as a regular member. If he gets what's behind SRO and it's community, I won't see any reason for him not to be hooked up again. If it doesn't work out though, I'd have to say sorry Bane.
It's up 2 you bro.
And to Mr. Smith, you can't compare moderating a forum to teaching a class in school. It's not like your teacher gets elected from the pupils, it's the class representative instead. The section should be moderated in a way that suits most members with the intention to make the section a place where everybody feels well. The class representative does basically the same, he trys to smoothen the edges that are in between of teachers and pupils, while the teacher just trys to teach, because it's his job and not his passion. Although a passionated teacher will always try to have a friendly relation to his pupils, so that he may not have to punish them.
A moderator just shouldn't have the "Moderatormon: Gonna Bash 'Em All!" attitude.

[lesderid]

No.

Most of you have valid points, however, isn't it a bit strange that only people in the SRO section who didn't 'like him' him posted here?
No one said "Dude, you are wrong. He did a great job there and everyone knows it."
When you're only getting negative comments, something is wrong.

He's bad at English.
He is very strict, something which is not realistic in the SRO section.
He wants to change things. This is impossible. He can moderate, he can close topics, give infractions, etc., but he can't change the rules. Things should've stayed as they were. If he just took actions when they were necessary instead of making up a bunch of new rules, people would've understanded that they need to 'calm down'.

Edit: However, I'm not saying this can't change. Yo123 is right, spending some time in the community as a regular user might be a good way to get to know the community.

Even though I'm speaking from my personal experience with Bane, I know I'm not the only guy who didn't like him.
We (me, Nezekan, Dropdead*) are not alone.
Instead of discussing this here, why don't you act and actually ask people if they think Bane did a good job or not?

[.Targeryan]

People above just couldn't be more true.
I am myself an old member of e*pvp pSRO section(5 years now) and the way it was done with Zathor,Yo123,InvincibleNoOB and TheOneofGod was the best thing that happened to the section.

It was fun to read,mods were normal(zathor and yo still are) and that's the thing we want. We don't want a **** abusive guy with uber ego thinkin' he can come,punish anyone without even knowing the standards of the section that were in it for years just because he's a **** mod.

[PortalDark]

Originally Posted by lesderid

No.

Most of you have valid points, however, isn't it a bit strange that only people in the SRO section who didn't 'like him' him posted here?
No one said "Dude, you are wrong. He did a great job there and everyone knows it."
When you're only getting negative comments, something is wrong.

He's bad at English.
He is very strict, something which is not realistic in the SRO section.
He wants to change things. This is impossible. He can moderate, he can close topics, give infractions, etc., but he can't change the rules. Things should've stayed as they were. If he just took actions when they were necessary instead of making up a bunch of new rules, people would've understanded that they need to 'calm down'.

Edit: However, I'm not saying this can't change. Yo123 is right, spending some time in the community as a regular user might be a good way to get to know the community.

Even though I'm speaking from my personal experience with Bane, I know I'm not the only guy who didn't like him.
We (me, Nezekan, Dropdead*) are not alone.
Instead of discussing this here, why don't you act and actually ask people if they think Bane did a good job or not?

i say that about being very know on community helps, but is not always the best solution
if that was truth, you, me and other will just post mod apps and quickly get approved(not that admins choose mods without investigating)

but i must say a yes because 2 points

1. You want to help, a very good initiative
2. sro is always needing of moderation, and we know it, since haters come to spam, advert and also the massive trolling issues done by certain user i wont mention

i say because of this, a yes

[theitfan1337]

Originally Posted by lesderid

He is very strict, something which is not realistic in the SRO section.
He wants to change things. This is impossible. He can moderate, he can close topics, give infractions, etc., but he can't change the rules. Things should've stayed as they were. If he just took actions when they were necessary instead of making up a bunch of new rules, people would've understanded that they need to 'calm down'.

Well from my point of view, that is not Bane's fault. Not at all.

[.Targeryan]

Originally Posted by PortalDark

i say that about being very know on community helps, but is not always the best solution
if that was truth, you, me and other will just post mod apps and quickly get approved(not that admins choose mods without investigating)

but i must say a yes because 2 points

1. You want to help, a very good initiative
2. sro is always needing of moderation, and we know it, since haters come to spam, advert and also the massive trolling issues done by certain user i wont mention

i say because of this, a yes

With Yo123,the section will be back normal - no need for additional mods imho. He can handle it,not to mention that there's also Zathor which is mod for years here already + the con artist.

[JohnHeatz]

I could point out (as you are all doing) the bad things even from each of your posts, something that I won't do; Yo123 has a real good deal there, which is the most convincent and smart suggestion that has been given, not like the ones saying (with gramatical and/or spelling mistakes) that Bane's english isn't good -which obviously says everything about the one making the post-

The SRO section, however, shouldn't need any different treatment as any other section does, that is the only point in which I do not agree with Yo123 because no section is different than another, it is cool though, to close a trolling thread by trolling the members, yeah, that always works, but that is not the way to do it all the times just because "they will like it"

Moderators are here to bring order, to keep the forums clean and to help our Administrators with our respective section(s), it is a plus if the members like you, but -as it happens a lot- they might like you until you start doing your job the way it has to be done because when you start doing it that way, they feel attacked, even though they don't notice that they are the ones breaking the rules, not us. So, if it is needed, Bane should follow Yo123's suggestion, because he wants to, but it shouldn't be a "must do" to get a Moderator position on SRO or on any other section

[lesderid]

Originally Posted by Nomad'

Well from my point of view, that is not Bane's fault. Not at all.

Yes, you're very right about that.
Maybe it shouldn't be like it is right now, but as long as it stays the same, Bane is not a suitable moderator for the SRO section, imho.

[JohnHeatz]

Why would you "advertise" your mod application in another user's application? That can be taken as offensive...Just by having it on your signature is enough, I do not see the point of adding that to your post

[JohnHeatz]

Originally Posted by PortalDark

im not advertising, but saying that lesderid application gots nothing to do with his opinion and luck he give to other contestants, so do I
but if it is offensive, ill remove that post

It is from both of you, this isn't the thread to talk about your applications, it is rude how this was said:

Originally Posted by lesderid

Note: I currently have a moderator application for the SRO section myself, but it doesn't change what I think or say about Bane, that wouldn't be fair.

Both have it advertised on your signatures, so there is no logical explanation for mentioning it into someone else's application.

[Yo123]

I just felt like adding that people , especially moderators, should respect the sro section a little more. Even if it's full of trolling, it's an active section... Too strict moderatiton might cause it's exitus.

[Nezekan]

Originally Posted by Yo123

I just felt like adding that people , especially moderators, should respect the sro section a little more. Even if it's full of trolling, it's an active section... Too strict moderatiton might cause it's exitus.

exactly my point

[PortalDark]

Originally Posted by Yo123

I just felt like adding that people , especially moderators, should respect the sro section a little more. Even if it's full of trolling, it's an active section... Too strict moderatiton might cause it's exitus.

you just stole my and many other ppl words
thnx for clearing that up

[Vaidas B]

Originally Posted by Yo123

I just felt like adding that people , especially moderators, should respect the sro section a little more. Even if it's full of trolling, it's an active section... Too strict moderatiton might cause it's exitus.

Not to start another rant, but I do have a comment on this.
Moderating and punishing people too strictly might cause a huge number of people leaving the section, but if someone acts like a total douche (pardon for the language), letting him go without punishment will not change the fact that he's acting like a total douche and one way or the other, he will "earn" his punishment.
Now let's take those meme pictures that are so popular around SRO, if someone posted them once (and I have some other stuff that needs deleting), I'll just delete that and go on with my life, but if that person does that on the next thread, and the next, I won't leave it like that.
Plus, the section is full of immature people (tho the word "kids" could be more accurate, I don't really want to offend anyone) that in no way contribute to anything. (Not talking about releases or thanks count, even peaceful existence without posting anything is better than trolling 24/7, IMO).

Thank you for your time.