Statement regarding moving SECportal and such into the UG section.

Vyndariel · 05/02/2008, 23:46

Okay,

here comes the explanation why I moved the threads.

First at all, I don't think i'm a *** or mistakeless.

I moved that postings 'cause I think that the releases are... to direct.

I know it wasn't at the time the threads created but I think that we need to set a point.

I moved the releases into the underground section cause to many people are here only for catching things without to do anything and tools such powerful like them is not good for releasing in public.

If you go into the game you'll see so many people using your work and destroy the game. I have no problem if someone is intelligent enough to write it by himself but this way is very... hard cause to many people do that and will destroy your work cause they use it.

this moving is a security for the game. Otherwise you can post your tool into the gametribe-board and i tell you dekaron will be closed very soon.

I know cause the time this releases were public many people have them and posted them around the communities and moving into underground is maybe not the best choice, but it's important. It's important for your work, for the people who like to play the game (with or without such things) and so on.

And... who needs this tool if the game will be closed? If everyone has that stuff?

So... I know that you're ****** of cause i don't ask you if it's okay for you and with this answer I only write to you and not for the people who wrote "bring that back cause i want it" (i think they can't do it by themself so... no need - in my opinion)

The offer which I can make for you is to give you access for the Underground and yes, in the Underground are at the moment only 17 members (2Moons-EPvP-Mods included).

Best regards

Vyn

~~gambLex~~ · 05/03/2008, 00:00

Ok, first of all - I want to thank u vyn for taking your time to answer me.

I also want to thank u for explaining your policy.

As I said before - I spend maney-maney coding hours on getting those hacks to work properly. And I am not going to throuw it away (making my hack private for 17 ppl from whom only a few activelly play Dekaron EU = killing my hack).

I also want to thank u for your kind proposition to give me UG access but I refuse. I will rather find a new gamehacking site which will give me the freedom to work for the whole world and not for a few ppl.

From now on I will use elitepvpers.com only to talk with ppl, all my releases and really seriouse discussions will be moved to an another gamehacking site. Most likely ******. I hope this what u wanted vyn and u are happy now, coz I feel me pretty miserable. I worked very hard for this community, trying to make it leading Dekaron EU hacking community and now I feel like I am getting told to get the f*ck out of here

Mastershouter · 05/03/2008, 00:12

everything answered so CLOSE pls.

@ Gamblex. Sure u did a good job. But u really want that game will be closed coz its overrun by hackers using ur script?

Thus forum is for sure for hacking but not for destroying games.

Be carefull for ur next releases on other sites.

Vyndariel · 05/03/2008, 00:31

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Originally Posted by gambLex

From now on I will use elitepvpers.com only to talk with ppl, all my releases and really seriouse discussions will be moved to an another gamehacking site. Most likely *********. I hope this what u wanted vyn and u are happy now, coz I feel me pretty miserable. I worked very hard for this community, trying to make it leading Dekaron EU hacking community and now I feel like I am getting told to get the f*ck out of here

That's exactly not what i want to do!

Do you really want that 'cause ur stuff the game EU or USA will be closed? Cause this will happen cause they're not so brilliant to fix that (and it would be easy to do that...)

These tools are to powerful to get them free... I hope you can understand that.

I don't want to **** you up or anything else, but... we're a hacking/cheating community

community = active users who work for the community
hacking/cheating = develop hacks/cheats to improve games

So... if you want people who say "ohhh yeah, you're the best and thx that we can leech from you without doing anything", well... I don't want this behaviour from users here... so I have to work with restrictions.

If you want to work with good people, to share and develop to improve games, you're welcome.

I think there's nothing more to say...

I will let this thread open for 20 hours from this posting on and close it after then.

Best regards

Vyn

CarrierZ · 05/03/2008, 01:14

I just noticed my thread about skill editing is gone now as well. Well, I don't see the point in moving something that has been public to a private section, once public, always public.

Moving these things won't change anything either, all hacks posted here are already on the site gambLex just posted for example...

Mastershouter · 05/03/2008, 01:36

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Originally Posted by CarrierZ

I just noticed my thread about skill editing is gone now as well. Well, I don't see the point in moving something that has been public to a private section, once public, always public.

Moving these things won't change anything either, all hacks posted here are already on the site gambLex just posted for example...

its just a prevention, no more leechers from here.

Sure it will be on other forums maybe, but this forum will stay as a cheat/hack forum not as a game destroying forum.

Its just a prevention for a short time maybe but better then nothing. I dont think anyone of u want that the game will shut down.

edman3 · 05/03/2008, 01:41

vyn as much as i respect you as a mod,i don't believe that was the right thing to do.You should have consulted with gamblex,the releases/hacks are his hard work and he should have the freedom to do with them what he wants.

KenDark · 05/03/2008, 03:20

have to agree gambLex should had decided, if did not wanted it public u could had asked him to remove it, have a private conversation with him ...

but i have to agree that these hacks r getting off hands since way too many ppl do it w/o thinking, many ppl see these hacks as something they can dismiss and they can get it back by leehcing from some1 else, what they dont realize is that by doing this in front of evry1, they just help getting the hacks fixed, ofc there will be new hacks with each update of security, but they not might be as good as these ones ...

and gambLex, u said u wanted to share/discuss ur ideas with the community, well why not UG then? even if only 17 members now, im sure they undertand a lot, and im sure u would fit well with them, and that they wouldnt ask questions like ''omg what the button i must press for vac hack to work??''
and hopefully vyn will re-open UG appplications soon and more members would join, remebr UG guyz undertand what u say/do while most public guyz dont have a clue about what u do ...

PS: just look at the quetion in the last pages in this thread

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ogremagi · 05/03/2008, 03:56

I agree... what is the point of making a hacking portal for open/public hacks when you are going to transfer it UG. it defeats the whole purpose of hacking... we could really care less for acclaim or dekaron spies. its not like we are not using any mac address editing or proxy changer. We also care less for those who are using the hacks... that is why it says public! so that everybody could use it. if you keep it private, then you don't have the right to do so! even if you hosted DL section for these hacks the authors and developers should have the right to keep in UG or public section.

What are you trying to do here? There is also an unfairness in choosing the members who have access to UG. If this will be the case then we should start looking for another hacking portals, the one that respects the value of Intellectual Property....

If you are afraid that too many people will use the hack then go post your concerns to 2moons forum. I'm sure they will love your ideas...

ogremagi · 05/03/2008, 04:05

you should change this boards branding... it doesn't fit really... before it was like the best site for hacking/exploit and all that there is.

the best hacking community! you should change this now to

protector of 2moons hacking, we protect the game.

I really feel the branding and description of this site fits it now. It really sucks. now before people starts transfering to another hacking community you should reconsider.

2moonsnoob · 05/03/2008, 06:01

Is this *underground UG* only for mods or people that pays for somthing?

ogremagi · 05/03/2008, 07:27

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Originally Posted by 2moonsnoob

Is this *underground UG* only for mods or people that pays for somthing?

before it was somewhat like that w/o payment though. now they changed the rules in getting members to the UG. but we still don't know what impact this might cause for hack developers such as gamBlex and cockta. They are pretty good, but its a waste that only few people will actually know them now that the hacks are becoming more (not private) more and more privately distributed. which is very ironic due to the fact that the forum was made to cater hacks/exploits publicly. You can't possibly get rid of something that has been there for several ages. Its just futile to try... you might try to control the distribution of the hacks/exploits on this hacking community, but many will just try to re-invent and re-distribute the scripts. considering there are a lot of few good hacking communities out there who gives equal services.

*when there's a good game out there, there is always a hack along with it... learn to live up to the fact.

2moonsnoob · 05/03/2008, 07:32

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Originally Posted by ogremagi

before it was somewhat like that w/o payment though. now they changed the rules in getting members to the UG. but we still don't know what impact this might cause for hack developers such as gamBlex and cockta. They are pretty good, but its a waste that only few people will actually know them now that the hacks are becoming more (not private) more and more privately distributed. which is very ironic due to the fact that the forum was made to cater hacks/exploits publicly. You can't possibly get rid of something that has been there for several ages. Its just futile to try... you might try to control the distribution of the hacks/exploits on this hacking community, but many will just try to re-invent and re-distribute the scripts. considering there are a lot of few good hacking communities out there who gives equal services.

*when there's a good game out there, there is always a hack along with it... learn to live up to the fact.

Changed rules? how you get in?

bots123 · 05/03/2008, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Mastershouter

its just a prevention, no more leechers from here.

Sure it will be on other forums maybe, but this forum will stay as a cheat/hack forum not as a game destroying forum.

Its just a prevention for a short time maybe but better then nothing. I dont think anyone of u want that the game will shut down.

man... what the hell are u talking about ? you sound contradicting to yourself-this forum is a cheat/hack forum , yet what is SECportal by gamelex ? a virus? a trojan which destroy this forum and 2moons ? lolz

Without stuffs like SECportal , is this forum still cheat/hack forum ?

whiper46 · 05/03/2008, 11:26

These guys are low on cash so they sell underground UG to get some cash to pay electric bills thats the only reason they moved everything.