Lets talk, about SV and cracking

[ojojoj]

well as for me "1. dont know how to crack, so cant crack"
but what it have to do with prohibition of talking about sv?

and i m not saying cracking is easy and the one guy that knows all don wana give us poor noobs anything...

i just complain sbout closing the helpeach other system to finally learn how to crack sv

[bone-you]

You're missing the point. On a legal side, a DIY guide isn't all that bad, but still, a DIY guide isn't teaching you anything. There ARE DIY guides for you to learn from. You just again, want the latest one cracked FOR you or your hand held the entire way with a guide. Teaching you would be you learning from the old guide and YOU cracking the new one on your own :P

[ojojoj]

so what about proxies? why u let em be on this site , ready to download and exexute,
u could just tell ppl how to do one and watch em crack their fingers on keybord trying...

ur arguments r reatard sorry...

[dondale8]

coool..i'm in first case...."1. dont know how to crack, so cant crack"
so i'm looking for learn that,i know it isn't easy to learn that....
Finally i and ppl likw me don't found any one help us...so what u called that??

[-kitschi-]

I cracked it yesterday night.

[T4k4h4shi]

lol post!

[Botter2daMax]

Yah SV has been cracked/bug exploited recently because 9net9 is letting people use eudeamons bot for a free till 3/31. So it will be fixed till the 31st. Certain forums allow SV you just have to look.

[-kitschi-]

Well guys I was just joking.
Just got this PM

Originally Posted by TomasLT

Did u really crack sv? can u send me a cracking code?
I dont post it. i give u karma/thanks

Plz man

[soymadmax]

Originally Posted by bone-you

I will laugh if in the end 9net9 truly comes out and admits to being a branch of TQ then all these people that say they're so great will eat their words :[

Im sure it is.

[soymadmax]

Originally Posted by bone-you

You're missing the point. On a legal side, a DIY guide isn't all that bad, but still, a DIY guide isn't teaching you anything. There ARE DIY guides for you to learn from. You just again, want the latest one cracked FOR you or your hand held the entire way with a guide. Teaching you would be you learning from the old guide and YOU cracking the new one on your own :P

Your arguments definitely fail, i dont care about SV, but what do u learn from aimbot? pixel based bots? speedhack? multiclient? and all other stuff here?

In fact, i programmed time ago, and when i made 2 questions here about memory addresess nobody answered me.

And i would like to see stats of visits in co-forums before and after letting people talk about SV.

[bone-you]

Originally Posted by soymadmax

Your arguments definitely fail, i dont care about SV, but what do u learn from aimbot? pixel based bots? speedhack? multiclient? and all other stuff here?

In fact, i programmed time ago, and when i made 2 questions here about memory addresess nobody answered me.

And i would like to see stats of visits in co-forums before and after letting people talk about SV.

How do my arguments fail? Programming and memory addresses are not the same. That argument fails. You're saying no one helps? Being a programmer does not mean you're a master of memory addresses of a game client. Not everyone can answer you there. To get a memory address can be as easy as loading tsearch and finding a value. Doesn't take a programmer to do that. But it is a step.

What do you mean learning anyway? How do you learn from having SV given to you pre-cracked? Nothing. What does a DIY guide teach? It has the potential to teach how to figure out how to crack it in the future. Few people that hack on games have any desire to learn. They just want their instant fix and that's it. They're called leechers. Nothing wrong with them, but SV brought around far too many of them and cast the real programmers here aside since no one could whip up something as good.

You can argue with me all you want, but it wasn't me who made that rule. All I'm doing is enforcing it. If you have an issue with it talk to a1 or DM.

I'm letting this topic stay open personally because I like to hear what people have to say. Discussion never hurts, but if it gets too rowdy complaining about SV then it will be locked and there won't be another. If you have something to say that's fine, but READ what the arguments are before you post otherwise your post will not come off as very intelligent.

This is how it is.

The reason SV was removed is because this is a hacking forum, not a cracking forum. This forum is for community made hacks. 9net9 is presenting themselves as a company whether or not they are a part of TQ and therefore is not a part of the community. Even charges for their bot. Since it needs to be cracked to be used without pay, it isn't what this forum is about and was removed.
SV also caused people to not want to make other bots seeing as SV covered a lot of ground itself. Why make another when there's already one that does it all? No one would use it seeing as SV is established and decent. It hindered development and this isn't an SV co section. It's a CO hacking section. What good is it if the only thing available is SV?

I'm still not sure of what all of your [guys'] arguments are about. Why SHOULD SV be allowed here? There's all the reason to not have it here but no real reason why it SHOULD be here other than the fact that it's for CO. Even if it was allowed, who's going to crack it? I don't think the programmers here would want to much anymore seeing as how better off the servers and the projects are without it public. That means we're back at square 1. No SV and no one willing to learn.

[PooRNooB]

Originally Posted by bone-you

You guys make topics like these because you can't cheat like you used to and instead, forced to play the game fairly. It's not fair to take it out on mods because we're trying to improve the quality of the community and welcome new programmers. Maybe you lose out on your cheating sessions for now. It doesn't hurt to play fair until someone else makes a bigger, better bot.

You is right in a point: us to wait for a good bot release.
But you loose much more points saying " try to make your own " and " It's not fair to take it out on mods because we're trying to improve the quality of the community and welcome new programmers." programmers come and go so easy ... they are easy to hurt and feel offendend easy ... if you is trying to hold programmers is waste of time.
AND another bad point " You guys make topics like these because you can't cheat like you used to and instead, forced to play the game fairly." TRY to play the game fairly against DB buyer .

As final comment : I understand your point , but if you look better theres make no sense.

[evanxxxm]

lets just say if u are not a programmer
u have no rights to order us around to make bots/crack

and if u are programmer, then u/we should respect other programmer's projects
if the author doesnt want to share source, or release publicly
why would we do so just to please some users wants to cheat?

releasing something that the author not approve is not improving the community
its lowering our repetition, and discouraging our own programmers in this forum

first of all, u guys need to understand the situation
right now, its a bunch of inexperience guys complaining about we close/stop all SV posts
the fact is, THERE IS NO SV CRACK VERSION available
if there is, u can find it easily on google, or other forums already
so what the hell are u guys complaining about
even its legal here, but without anyone knowledgeable enough to crack it
then whats the difference?

if someone wants to complain about legal or not to post DIY or crack SV here
he should be the one already crack it and planning to release it, not someone just knows how to whine
gosh, right now, u guys sounds like its super easy to crack, many people knows how to do it, just that we, mods block it

[PooRNooB]

Good point too evan , we cant force ppl to do anything ... normaly who wanna do ... them make it spontaneous ( cracking/edti/creating and so on ) hmm but what the problem if theres has a release of a Cracked SV thread? can you/them programmers continue yours projects cant you? in fact it is a challenge to see if programms can beat SV ... what i see? theres programs trying to improve them projects and doing us idiots and checkers/testers for released projects ( not generalizing / and we're not forced to downlaod and be mere testers/ ) "because in all we're just leechers uh?" but if you make a bot really compared or better than SV , i bet that it will be sold as SV is being sold now ( its yours rights i respect ). <<< because you worked hard to make it working and wasted your precious time and so on. But as me tons of ppl cant buy it ... an example is if i live in other country ... where is needed a paypal account to buy a simple and "CHEAP BOT" as you all say, in some countries it isnt so easy as saying 123. hmm and it isnt right to crack a thing ... i really get your point and i placed myself in your place. But it is impossible to stop ppl trying to crack or so. AND last point from it all , there has no cracked version for SV on EPVP goggle also not , and i know that for a just comment thread like we're doing here ... ADMN wont allow sv cracking ... but i bet ... I REALLY BET all my coins that if there is opened again , many ppl gonna try to crack and post relase here, dont you think that just because theres isnt ... that ppl wont crack it ...easy to say it with SV cracking forbidden, because in fact they do.

OFFTOPPIC:
Evan I am your fan in all , you is best mod that i saw till today ... very attentive and give s really good attention for ppl... i saw all yours comments and releases and helps out gaven , you 're best on my opinion ... you made tons of usefull things , you 're the dude! ^_^

[Matt.dk]

Bone-you, in seeing your post at the start of page 5 on this topic, I got the feeling you think I don't really own SV, and am just using this topic in an attempt to beg around to find a crack for it. will clear everything up, if that is what you were actually thinking.

Honestly I don't buy the explanation that SV cracking is now prohibited because it hindered development. You were around here obviously back in those days, a lot of stuff got done around here when cracking SV was allowed here at elitepvpers.

Either way, it makes no difference to me. I've always paid for SV, and I don't mind paying for it. Its well worth the tiny amount they ask for. Not to mention, as I said earlier in the topic, cracks of SV are very unsafe to use, but that shouldn't amount to them not being allowed.

How about posting the latest un-cracked version of SV up? With explicit instructions that cracking DIY's and direct cracks will not be provided? I'll volunteer to do this, if allowed. I have no problem posting up each and every new version, the current is 2.06. I ask this, because 9net9 has pulled its public release of uncracked versions of SV.