Addressing Certain Matters

[alexbigfoot]

actualy I think the most ppl that know some C# like how Hybrid deals with things. the most noobs (80% in e*pvp co pv servers) dont agree with him cuz most of them dont have C# or other languages or they have it and they dont even know how to define something like 'string TheMessage = "We like how Hybrid deals the things";'

by me....Hybrid would be a excelent mod

[John Dread]

There are and always will be complaints about moderators and their actions. It seems now it´s my turn again. And by the way you put your topic in the wrong section, if you´d know enough of elitepvpers you would have known that there is a Complaint-Section which would be the right place for this. The same goes for me concerning CO PServers. Yes you all and I know that I know nothing about PServers in CO. And yes I´m actually here to help a bit cleaning up here and not to give any support. The thread you are talking abut caught my attention when someone reported it (Korvacs). And I actually agreed with the report:

Originally Posted by Korvacs

Needs closing, just an excuse to flame -.-"

Elitepvpers does NOT exist for people complaining about PServers and insulting them. That has no use right? The things that were posted in the 1st post of the thread could have been posted in some bigger thread as a subordinate clause, there´s no need to make a whole thread about discussing how "pathetic" a PServer is. And that´s how it looked like. So I guess I have to say sorry to you InfamousNoone because you obviously wanted to add your opinion about the degree of patheticness the PServer has. I actually mean that it would be totally okay if PeTe Ninja would have created a thread in which he complained about the PServer-scene in general. I see no reason why there should be a discussion (in this case a flamewar) about single PServers. These were just my thoughts when I closed the thread and after I read through this thread. Every discussion about PServers is allowed here as long as they do not consist of flame or spam and as long as they are not against the rules.

Thank you for your attention.

Sincerely,
John Dread

[InfamousNoone]

Originally Posted by John Dread

There are and always will be complaints about moderators and their actions. It seems now it´s my turn again. And by the way you put your topic in the wrong section, if you´d know enough of elitepvpers you would have known that there is a Complaint-Section which would be the right place for this And if you knew enough about the CO section, you'd know that rarely anyone from this section would go there, check it, and acknowledge it.. The same goes for me concerning CO PServers. Yes you all and I know that I know nothing about PServers in CO. And yes I´m actually here to help a bit cleaning interesting wording up here and not to give any support. The thread you are talking abut caught my attention when someone reported it (Korvacs). And I actually agreed with the report:



Elitepvpers does NOT exist for people complaining about PServers and insulting them even though a lot of them need to be insulted.... That has no use right no, it really does, why bother playing a server that'll close down next week?? The things that were posted in the 1st post of the thread could have been posted in some bigger thread as a subordinate clause, there´s no need to make a whole thread about discussing how "pathetic" a PServer is. And that´s how it looked like. So I guess I have to say sorry to you InfamousNoone because you obviously wanted to add your opinion about the degree of patheticness the PServer has. I actually mean that it would be totally okay if PeTe Ninja would have created a thread in which he complained about the PServer-scene in general. I see no reason why there should be a discussion (in this case a flamewar) about single PServers once again, it's not a flame war, sure, anyone will back their own private server saying it's good, but its when other people are saying it's good/bad, not only for economical reasons, but coding-wise, stability, if the owner actually knows anything, etc. that matters. it should be pointed out if they do, so somebody doesn't waste their time with these kinds of servers.. These were just my thoughts when I closed the thread and after I read through this thread. Every discussion about PServers is allowed here as long as they do not consist of flame <- thats no fun then, so basically someone can lie, and I can't point it out, mock their stupidity, etc? epic fail. or spam <- once again, interesting choice of word.and as long as they are not against the rules.

Thank you for your attention.

Sincerely,
John Dread

cool stuff. shift key is being lame, cbf'd to turn caps on/off.

ps: added your post to mine saint, in case it gets deleted again *rolls eyes*

Why can't we discuss single private servers? Considering 95% of private servers are bullshit run by immature 11 year olds, you can generalize some of them, but you should still be able to shove in your own opinions about single private servers.

There is definitely a need to discuss the 'patheticness' of a private server.
Suppose you run competitively. You're slow as *, but somehow you beat a few people, so you think you're good. If no one turns you down, you'll think your the shit until you get put down, which is what most of the servers need to have happen to them.
There's no problem with running a small server for fun, or for learning, or anything, but it seems everyday 2-10 absolutely shitty servers come out, and most just ask for donations and close in a week.
If they would have gotten their facts straight first, they probably wouldn't be scamming people outa their money for something any * could figure out themselves.

Once you get put down, you can either give up, or try harder.
Giving up rids us of more spammed questions, and trying harder either ends up in another putdown/failure, or they actually *ing learn something!
Holy shit? Learning? That never happens in this section!
Wanna know why? Because we're all idiots and think we're the shit!

[tao4229]

Originally Posted by John Dread

There are and always will be complaints about moderators and their actions. It seems now it´s my turn again. And by the way you put your topic in the wrong section, if you´d know enough of elitepvpers you would have known that there is a Complaint-Section which would be the right place for this. The same goes for me concerning CO PServers. Yes you all and I know that I know nothing about PServers in CO. And yes I´m actually here to help a bit cleaning up here and not to give any support. The thread you are talking abut caught my attention when someone reported it (Korvacs). And I actually agreed with the report:



Elitepvpers does NOT exist for people complaining about PServers and insulting them. That has no use right? The things that were posted in the 1st post of the thread could have been posted in some bigger thread as a subordinate clause, there´s no need to make a whole thread about discussing how "pathetic" a PServer is. And that´s how it looked like. So I guess I have to say sorry to you InfamousNoone because you obviously wanted to add your opinion about the degree of patheticness the PServer has. I actually mean that it would be totally okay if PeTe Ninja would have created a thread in which he complained about the PServer-scene in general. I see no reason why there should be a discussion (in this case a flamewar) about single PServers. These were just my thoughts when I closed the thread and after I read through this thread. Every discussion about PServers is allowed here as long as they do not consist of flame or spam and as long as they are not against the rules.

Thank you for your attention.

Sincerely,
John Dread

Why can't we discuss single private servers? Considering 95% of private servers are bullshit run by immature 11 year olds, you can generalize some of them, but you should still be able to shove in your own opinions about single private servers.

There is definitely a need to discuss the 'patheticness' of a private server.
Suppose you run competitively. You're slow as fuck, but somehow you beat a few people, so you think you're good. If no one turns you down, you'll think your the shit until you get put down, which is what most of the servers need to have happen to them.
There's no problem with running a small server for fun, or for learning, or anything, but it seems everyday 2-10 absolutely shitty servers come out, and most just ask for donations and close in a week.
If they would have gotten their facts straight first, they probably wouldn't be scamming people outa their money for something any fuckshit could figure out themselves.

Once you get put down, you can either give up, or try harder.
Giving up rids us of more spammed questions, and trying harder either ends up in another putdown/failure, or they actually fucking learn something!
Holy shit? Learning? That never happens in this section!
Wanna know why? Because we're all idiots and think we're the shit!



That thread was about 50x more productive than all the damn "hao make djd in benraie men, fuak am egyapetian", yet you never closed those? Seriously?
They barely fucking relate to private servers, and nothing productive will come out of them.

You close flame threads that have info in them, but don't close random threads like the Conficker virus thread? What are you really smoking.

You delete my posts with swearing in them, yet don't delete posts spamming about nothingness?


And lawl'd if this get's deleted as well, but by me posting this note at the end, it probably decreases my chances of getting deleted, because you know some people will see it and think you're an idiot, but you don't really want that now, do you?

[John Dread]

@InfamousNoone:
It has no use trying to unsettle me using funny little comments like:

shift key is being lame, cbf'd to turn caps on/off.

Just for you to know.
So your point is that it is neccessary to insult a PServer and to make senseless comments on a low level. That is why you could never become a moderator even if you wanted to. Elitepvpers is the wrong place to put up a list of PServers and there say things like: "I like this PServer because the GMs are nice and I hate that other PServer because it is nooooob and epic fail!" Just to get a reply like: "No man you are noooob Server XY is niiiice because GMs are cool." That would be the result. There is no need to show to the public that certain people have created a PServer which is not good at all because people will find out soon enough themselves if it´s true and if it´s not (and that´s a possibility too) they will just stay at the server. The creator of the PServer will learn his lesson when all his players leave his server you don´t need to laugh about him anymore. You don´t have the right to judge about what server actually IS good and which is not. And once again sorry that I took you the opportunity to mock about people´s stupidity which is just inhuman (common sense).

@tao4229:
For you goes mostly the same as for InfamousNoone but I´ll add a few things. If you want to laugh about people´s stupidity why don´t you laugh about the people who make donations to such servers? I didn´t see such a thread till now. I guess it was common sense. Why don´t I close threads like

hao make djd in benraie men, fuak am egyapetian

?
Because he´s at least trying to ask for help. And the purpose of this forum is to help him. Why don´t I close the Conficker thread? Because I didn´t notice it. If you find such threads disturbing report them and I´ll take care. With kinshi as new moderator here threads like this will be prevented better than before.

PS: I don´t have the intention to continue this quarrel forever so please try to calm down otherwise it will only get more and more problematic and all of us don´t want to be stressed by something which is far less important than the problems we have in our real lifes.

Thank you for your attention again.

Regards,
John Dread

[tao4229]

So john, you're saying that as long as I ask for help, even if I quadruple post and spam every thread with the same **** question, I won't get an infraction?
Yet I'll get an infraction for trying to set them straight.



Kk.

[John Dread]

Ok let´s add the fact that the questions should not violate the rules. Once again if you see those violations just report them.

[InfamousNoone]

Originally Posted by John Dread

@InfamousNoone:
It has no use trying to unsettle me using funny little comments like: Just for you to know. No seriously, it was screwed up, and I HAVE to put something other than the quote, lol.
So your point is that it is neccessary to insult a PServer and to make senseless comments on a low level. That is why you could never become a moderator even if you wanted to Didn't care if I became one or not, Tane >'d all. Elitepvpers is the wrong place to put up a list of PServers and there say things like: "I like this PServer because the GMs are nice and I hate that other PServer because it is nooooob and epic fail <- Hey cool, I started that epic fail thing!!" Just to get a reply like: "No man you are noooob Server XY is niiiice because GMs are cool." I said non-economical reasons, GMs = economical... unless your GMs are robots with an AI I suppose. That would be the result. There is no need to show to the public that certain people have created a PServer which is not good at all because people will find out soon enough themselves if it´s true and if it´s not (and that´s a possibility too) they will just stay at the server. The creator of the PServer will learn his lesson WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA, LOL. You think somebody who can't even grasp basic concepts when creating a server will learn a lesson in the end? Tsk tsk.when all his players leave his server you don´t need to laugh about him anymore I'd laugh more o_0. You don´t have the right to judge about what server actually IS good and which is not Interesting, why not?. And once again sorry that I took you the opportunity to mock about people´s stupidity which is just inhuman (common sense). I'm the worst kind of human being you'll ever meet, it's that simple. The kind that's right, and is a complete ass about it.

@tao4229:
For you goes mostly the same as for InfamousNoone but I´ll add a few things. If you want to laugh about people´s stupidity why don´t you laugh about the people who make donations to such servers? I didn´t see such a thread till now. I guess it was common sense. Why don´t I close threads like ?
Because he´s at least trying to ask for help Even if we did help him, in English, what're the odds he would've even understood. what're the odds he even tried?. And the purpose of this forum is to help him. Why don´t I close the Conficker thread? Because I didn´t notice it. If you find such threads disturbing report them and I´ll take care. With kinshi as new moderator here threads like this will be prevented better than before.

PS: I don´t have the intention to continue this quarrel forever so please try to calm down otherwise it will only get more and more problematic and all of us don´t want to be stressed by something which is far less important than the problems we have in our real lifes. [b]You'd get stressed over something like this? You take your 'job' too seriously, fun stuff.

Thank you for your attention again.

Regards,
John Dread

Cool I got Fury on Warlords twice while typing this!

[kinshi88]

Originally Posted by tao4229

So john, you're saying that as long as I ask for help, even if I quadruple post and spam every thread with the same **** question, I won't get an infraction?
Yet I'll get an infraction for trying to set them straight.



Kk.

No that's not what he's saying.

If someone asks for help they will get it.
If they break the rules, they will get the proper punishment.

So if you quadruple post, that is breaking the rules, and you will receive an infraction.

If you wish to set them straight, report the post, and they will be set straight.

[InfamousNoone]

Originally Posted by kinshi88

No that's not what he's saying.

If someone asks for help they will get it.
If they break the rules, they will get the proper punishment.

So if you quadruple post, that is breaking the rules, and you will receive an infraction.

If you wish to set them straight, report the post, and they will be set straight.

i hv an qsten men, wt mkes u tnk sm1 whu ask qstn lik dis cars if dey gt n ifrctn?

In the words of Tane (paraphrased),
"I really don't get this infraction ****, it really does nothing in the end."

[kinshi88]

Originally Posted by InfamousNoone

i hv an qsten men, wt mkes u tnk sm1 whu ask qstn lik dis cars if dey gt n ifrctn?
"I have a question man, what makes you think someone who asks a question like this cares if they get an infraction?"

In the words of Tane (paraphrased),
"I really don't get this infraction ****, it really does nothing in the end."

Just because they can't type complete sentences doesn't mean that they don't understand if they get infractions they will get banned.
Being banned means they won't get answers to their questions.

And even if they don't care if they get infractions, that's why forums have mods. To close and delete these kind of threads and give infractions to those breaking rules.

That is Tane's (and I guess your) opinion.

[InfamousNoone]

Originally Posted by kinshi88

Just because they can't type complete sentences doesn't mean that they don't understand if they get infractions they will get banned.
Being banned means they won't get answers to their questions.

And even if they don't care if they get infractions, that's why forums have mods. To close and delete these kind of threads and infraction those breaking rules.

That is Tane's (and I guess your) opinion.

What makes you think someone with 2 posts, 0 thanks, etc. cares if they get banned, please, explain?

[kinshi88]

Originally Posted by InfamousNoone

What makes you think someone with 2 posts, 0 thanks, etc. cares if they get banned, please, explain?

As I've stated.
If they're banned, they won't get their questions answered.
Eventually they will give up and go to another forum.

[PeTe Ninja]

Originally Posted by kinshi88

As I've stated.
If they're banned, they won't get their questions answered.
Eventually they will give up and go to another forum.

if you get banned is it IP ban

[Mr_PoP]

Originally Posted by kinshi88

As I've stated.
If they're banned, they won't get their questions answered.
Eventually they will give up and go to another forum.

not right is it hard to make aonther account?
is it hard to chang ur reg mail?
is it hard to chang ur ip by using aproxy?
is it hard to come back and flam,spam,etc,etc....?
U Not Right!