Proofcore has dropped. Where is the new safe way?

[zebleer]

Originally Posted by Akermezli

He is right, admins/moderators are scum in that chat and anything related to PO you’ll find clients sucking ***** like devs are gods they tend to forget they pay good money for the cheese. I was a PO LT, I got silenced just because I didn’t like the shady calculations of zebbler about refunds. 230€ for 5 months he said if you didn’t pay 250€ you’re not eligible because you had «*discount*», it wasn’t about money it was about taking me for a dumb who doesn’t know how to calculate….

Another time I helped a member to buy his dma card from taobao I got insulted by the reseller of cyber-ammo without any reason and the laughable thing is he said to me the non-reseller «*you’re a scammer*» lmao and THE MODERATORS WERE OKAY WITH HIM, you’d say why ? Well they are «*partners*».


The joke is that zebbler said : «*don’t go LT with Blurred because they have low security and they can be hit with c&d*and wait for HV dma» like it was not his case and rebranded in HV cutting all his LT licenses.

My advice to him go dma and choose another good respectful pleasant provider where community respect devs and can point flaws in the same time without getting insulted from the sect members and scum moderators.


I will never be the little ***** of someone just for «*the security of my account*».

[lukedorian]

Originally Posted by GrawPoint

Just because a provider got detected it doesn't mean you should stop using them, ProofCore has proven it's security by staying UD for years, it's unfortunate that now it got detected, but I'd argue it's better to stay with them given their proven track record and now they'll put more effort into securing their cheat.

Detections are part of cheating, it was going to happen one way or another, no provider is 100% safe all the time.

Well you should at least give other ones a try, even more if your sub is about to run out, if we can learn anything from this is that asking for id or limiting user base won,t prevent you from getting hit.

[DariXOne]

Originally Posted by zebleer

Your fault, you shouldnt have announced working on DMA 2.0.

Glad you still around

[Akermezli]

Originally Posted by zebleer

You can use all the memes of the world if you want. And yeah don’t get me started about closing PO two days before the update so you can force eager cheaters to play to buy HV even when you said it’ll last for 32 days, not all clients are fools to have tears in their eyes when seeing some heart emojis.

When I tried to explain to you how I don’t like your impossible refund policy in the ticket, somehow every time I answer the ticket on your website I have an error.

I established facts about your scum admins/modos you don’t like it ? I don’t give a ****. I know that it won hurt you, neither me, we all have options just learn how to accept critics and face opinions about your «*honest actions*» lately.

Have a good day.

[1337Death's Dance]

Originally Posted by lukedorian

Well you should at least give other ones a try, even more if your sub is about to run out, if we can learn anything from this is that asking for id or limiting user base won,t prevent you from getting hit.

proofcore's id verification is not meant for cod games

[Chuckles1337]

Originally Posted by 1337Death's Dance

proofcore's id verification is not meant for cod games

Oh are we coming up with these excuses now? everyone including this owner said it is for any game. Sad that you guys from proofcore are not transparent, where are they those providers???? you guys still have not changed the status changed after confirmed detection, you can't hide from this one.

[1337Death's Dance]

Originally Posted by SeeNi

I hope this detection wakes them up a bit so they start investing some time in the COD cheats finally, because they've been behind in the feature and feature quality department for some time now and the performance has not been great either.

They can no longer dismiss any complaints people have about the features and just say that it's like that because of "security"

one of the main reasons proofcore stayed ud for this long was lack of features it had, things like controller support is a huge detection vector, and proofcore is a security focused provider.

Originally Posted by Chuckles1337

Oh are we coming up with these excuses now? everyone including this owner said it is for any game. Sad that you guys from proofcore are not transparent, where are they those providers???? you guys still have not changed the status changed after confirmed detection, you can't hide from this one.

first of all I'm not from proofcore, second of all " proofcore " is a provider that provides cheats for mostly be / eac games, which is why they do id verification in the first place. they are adding a extra layer to protect their cheats from manual detections some anti-cheat employees do. with that being said i believe @ will make an announcement regarding the detection and status on site should change within upcoming days. Since it's a recent detection they must be still gathering data and i believe sales are already disabled on site. i do understand that some of you guys are mad due to detection but shit happens maan you are taking the risk of getting banned when you start cheating so all i can say is gitgud

[Chuckles1337]

Originally Posted by 1337Death's Dance

one of the main reasons proofcore stayed ud for this long was lack of features it had, things like controller support is a huge detection vector, and proofcore is a security focused provider.

i disagree that providers are doing this because it's unsecure, more like they lazy or dont know how. They always been auto updating the cheat and look what happened, no precaution and got hit. bad confidence

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by Akermezli

230€ for 5 months he said if you didn’t pay 250€ you’re not eligible because you had «*discount*»

If I’m understanding this correctly, you paid 230€ for a lifetime subscription and only got to use it for 5 months? If that’s the case, I totally get why you’re frustrated - that’s a rough situation. That said, purchasing a lifetime license for a cheat always comes with a level of risk, simply because of the nature of what you’re buying. You’re dealing with software designed to exploit a game, which is inherently against the game’s terms of service and often considered illegal or unauthorized - meaning you never know when a cease and desist could hit the developers and shut everything down overnight.

“Lifetime” in this context doesn’t guarantee any specific duration, it just means the cheat will be available for as long as the developers continue to support it. That could be a day, a week, a month, or several years. Aside from getting your account banned, buying a lifetime cheat is easily the biggest gamble you can take with any provider.

Another time I helped a member to buy his dma card from taobao I got insulted by the reseller of cyber-ammo without any reason and the laughable thing is he said to me the non-reseller «*you’re a scammer*» lmao and THE MODERATORS WERE OKAY WITH HIM, you’d say why ? Well they are «*partners*».

You really shouldn’t be too upset about this, DMA sellers go rabid when anyone interferes with their hustle (trust me, I know - I regularly step in to stop buyers from getting exploited by them). It’s easy money, and they’ll do whatever it takes to protect it.

The joke is that zebbler said : «*don’t go LT with Blurred because they have low security and they can be hit with c&d*and wait for HV dma» like it was not his case and rebranded in HV cutting all his LT licenses.

I don’t recommend lifetime deals for either side. It’s a lose-lose situation. Developers end up leaving a lot of potential revenue on the table, while customers are gambling a sizable amount of money without any guarantee the provider will even be around the next month.

When I tried to explain to you how I don’t like your impossible refund policy in the ticket, somehow every time I answer the ticket on your website I have an error.

PhantomOverlay hands down had the best refund policy of any provider for years. Zebleer personally refunded thousands of dollars with a no-questions-asked approach - something almost unheard of in this scene. That said, you should never expect a refund from a cheat provider.

As much as I think offering refunds is the respectable thing to do, let’s be real... you’re not buying an iPhone from Apple. You’re purchasing an unauthorized third-party tool designed to give you an unfair advantage in a game. It’s more like buying weed off a guy on the corner. If you have a bad trip, he’s not giving your money back, and no one expects him to.

The general understanding when buying cheats is that you’re accepting the risks - you could get banned, run into technical issues, or even get removed from the community just because someone doesn’t like what you said.

At the end of the day, a provider’s only real responsibility is delivering a product that somewhat works to not be considered a scammer, and their entire business model is based on how well that product performs. That's it.

[DTZ1Z]

PC with 1 detection in years? And people wanna jump already, kinda crazy.

PC will always remain on top and I wont be going anywhere else.

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by DTZ1Z

PC with 1 detection in years? And people wanna jump already, kinda crazy.

PC will always remain on top and I wont be going anywhere else.

COD cheaters were spoiled for a long time due to Ricochet's lack of enforcement, and before that, Activision really only targeted providers who directly ****** them off (like EO taunting them on Twitter or Applecheats making meme videos). Most went undetected for years.

The reality for COD now is that your favorite providers are likely going to get hit with 1 detection, if not 2-3. As an EFT cheater, I was all too familiar with this

I just hope we don’t see what happened in the Valorant scene - provider charges 300-500 for lifetime, buyers buy in, the provider gets detected a few months later, exit scams, and shuts down. Then, a few weeks or months later, they come back completely rebranded.

[Akermezli]

Originally Posted by 0x41^4

If I’m understanding this correctly, you paid 230€ for a lifetime subscription and only got to use it for 5 months? If that’s the case, I totally get why you’re frustrated - that’s a rough situation. That said, purchasing a lifetime license for a cheat always comes with a level of risk, simply because of the nature of what you’re buying. You’re dealing with software designed to exploit a game, which is inherently against the game’s terms of service and often considered illegal or unauthorized - meaning you never know when a cease and desist could hit the developers and shut everything down overnight.

“Lifetime” in this context doesn’t guarantee any specific duration, it just means the cheat will be available for as long as the developers continue to support it. That could be a day, a week, a month, or several years. Aside from getting your account banned, buying a lifetime cheat is easily the biggest gamble you can take with any provider.



You really shouldn’t be too upset about this, DMA sellers go rabid when anyone interferes with their hustle (trust me, I know - I regularly step in to stop buyers from getting exploited by them). It’s easy money, and they’ll do whatever it takes to protect it.



I don’t recommend lifetime deals for either side. It’s a lose-lose situation. Developers end up leaving a lot of potential revenue on the table, while customers are gambling a sizable amount of money without any guarantee the provider will even be around the next month.



PhantomOverlay hands down had the best refund policy of any provider for years. Zebleer personally refunded thousands of dollars with a no-questions-asked approach - something almost unheard of in this scene. That said, you should never expect a refund from a cheat provider.

As much as I think offering refunds is the respectable thing to do, let’s be real... you’re not buying an iPhone from Apple. You’re purchasing an unauthorized third-party tool designed to give you an unfair advantage in a game. It’s more like buying weed off a guy on the corner. If you have a bad trip, he’s not giving your money back, and no one expects him to.

The general understanding when buying cheats is that you’re accepting the risks - you could get banned, run into technical issues, or even get removed from the community just because someone doesn’t like what you said.

At the end of the day, a provider’s only real responsibility is delivering a product that somewhat works to not be considered a scammer, and their entire business model is based on how well that product performs. That's it.

I understand all your points and I always love to exchange with calm respectful people so here is what I think you miss in my indignation :

1/ I wasn’t expecting LT to be as long as im living, but when you say you have to close, you can just say, dear LT members i’m sorry you didn’t get what you paid for I present my sincere apologies and that’s it, you don’t say I refund but you have to meet impossible exigencies like not having a discount on my paygate that has always discount on crypto-payments.

2/ I wasn’t upset because of the reseller, I was talking about moderators being okay with it happening on their chat and it was obvious he was lying and was insulting me just because I helped a guy to have his dma much cheaper so it’s not his fault but the scum moderators.


3/ I always prefer to buy LT because I don’t want to bother renewing every time, I understand the risk it has and I’m prepared for it but when he says to no buy LT from Blurred which is hand down the best dma cheat in the scene for now because «*they have poor opsec*and they might get shutdown*» just to buy his coming dma hv cheat I would say he has to look at himself in the mirror I really hate hypocrisy.


4/ I’m not saying that zeebler never did things the good way i’m saying the end wasn’t as honest as it seems. And to add to it his moderators are real scumbags having an ego not fit to their skills even zebleer is more pleasant to talk to, try complaining about something in the chat and they will call you all names. I’ve seen people having their support tickets ignored just because they don’t like the way they talked.


To conclude PO was the best cheat experience I’ve had, I just can stand the moderators of zebleer this is why I’ll never get near HV that’s all.

[lukedorian]

Originally Posted by Chuckles1337

Oh are we coming up with these excuses now? everyone including this owner said it is for any game. Sad that you guys from proofcore are not transparent, where are they those providers???? you guys still have not changed the status changed after confirmed detection, you can't hide from this one.

Doesn´t matter, apex was also hit back in the day and you needed ID for that one, the point i am making is that these type of meassures do not do much when it comes to avoiding detections.

[Semper33]

Originally Posted by DariXOne

It was win 10, but you know i was silent the whole time cuz i wasnt active in forums, so i check the thread, guess what? The ban 2 weeks ago wasnt even detection, it was some sort probably behavioral ban wave not the cheat, you and other guys spread false info as usual and im reporting this to admins in here.

In that exact thread major numbers of users never reported a ban and pointed fingers at those minor numbers that they aint honest, as for today people playing in verdansk using AA without issue and thousands never recieved a single van, usually full banwave goes above 40 pages in a thread, you and that dude gfuleingmylyes came here posting lies, the current so called detection thread has 5 oages and maybe less than 10 people reported ban from 2 weeks ago.

It was the Kernal protection that caused bans in february and then again during Testing.
Some didnt even play just sat idle.
AA is not recommended right now sadly.

[DEGE5561]

Originally Posted by Akermezli

He is right, admins/moderators are scum in that chat and anything related to PO you’ll find clients sucking ***** like devs are gods they tend to forget they pay good money for the cheese. I was a PO LT, I got silenced just because I didn’t like the shady calculations of zebbler about refunds. 230€ for 5 months he said if you didn’t pay 250€ you’re not eligible because you had «*discount*», it wasn’t about money it was about taking me for a dumb who doesn’t know how to calculate….

Another time I helped a member to buy his dma card from taobao I got insulted by the reseller of cyber-ammo without any reason and the laughable thing is he said to me the non-reseller «*you’re a scammer*» lmao and THE MODERATORS WERE OKAY WITH HIM, you’d say why ? Well they are «*partners*».


The joke is that zebbler said : «*don’t go LT with Blurred because they have low security and they can be hit with c&d*and wait for HV dma» like it was not his case and rebranded in HV cutting all his LT licenses.

My advice to him go dma and choose another good respectful pleasant provider where community respect devs and can point flaws in the same time without getting insulted from the sect members and scum moderators.


I will never be the little ***** of someone just for «*the security of my account*».

If they think they're going to get me for $29, to hell with them. Thanks for your comment