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[Musu]

Hmm how woudld you compare todays systemcheats features and options compared to IW? I've used them for MW 2019 quite some time but always felt since they're not 100% focusing on CoD they might be sooner to dectect.

[Zigz64]

Originally Posted by zebleer

You're the only guy I've ever spoken to that didn't have or see issues with Systemcheats to date. Single-handedly got them on the legit list too

But I just wanted to say that this (quoted) isn't true. PO, EO, IW have all not been DTC since I first told you about Systemcheats. IW left without any bans


I think 32 euros a month for the level of security PO offers & the rep we have is a good price

I have some improvements incoming (all safe ofc) but the cheat is already solid particularly with FPS performance and not having any lagging ESP, works fullscreen exclusive, fully streamsafe more so than any other external I've ever seen even on screen Discord/OBS capture and elgator HDMI loop


What are you talking about? Have you used PO? Since I redid my renderer PO has amazing ESP. No noticeable FPS drop or ESP lag at all. Works fullscreen exclusive as well

Other externals have guides on how to fix lagging ESP issues but I don't need one because my users don't experience the problem. Keep your game FPS uncapped game on

The price is fine for the security I know you guys offer. Have you ever thought of having native controller supoort as an option though? Like a tick box on your cheat menu? Am I making it sound as though that's very easy? I would choose you instantly if you did.

[offsteam]

IW was unbeatable mainly for the price. For me, who lives in a country where the EU is much more expensive, it ends up being unfeasible to pay $30 on a cheat

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by offsteam

IW was unbeatable mainly for the price. For me, who lives in a country where the EU is much more expensive, it ends up being unfeasible to pay $30 on a cheat

EO is the same price.

[GemeosBSVIP]

Originally Posted by offsteam

IW was unbeatable mainly for the price. For me, who lives in a country where the EU is much more expensive, it ends up being unfeasible to pay $30 on a cheat

Exactly... both cheats have already been detected, they are reaching out to the people who got dumped by IW, but they are charging a lot for the cheat, 30 euros, 32 euros for a cheat, very expensive for a cheat.

[susplayer32]

It's a bit unfortunate, honestly. I was with IW for almost 10 months. Before that, I used EO. I had too many issues with EO, and their support wasn't very helpful, always claiming it was undetected or just my skill. When IW got detected, they were down for a month. So, I tried PO, but I only lasted one game before getting kicked and put into the shadow lobby. I will say, PO did refund me, so that's something. But overall, IW was much better at the time.

[zebleer]

Originally Posted by Zigz64

The price is fine for the security I know you guys offer. Have you ever thought of having native controller supoort as an option though? Like a tick box on your cheat menu? Am I making it sound as though that's very easy? I would choose you instantly if you did.

Any way of adding controller support technically adds a detection vector which I am pretty against. PO only has the mandatory detection vectors associated with reading memory and rendering externally + simulating mouse. It's the bare minimum and I cover many existing vectors that other providers who do the bare minimum don't

I may add controller support some day using the safest method possible but we'll see. I really like my approach

There's a reason why providers remove controller support every time they get DT as a guess

Originally Posted by susplayer32

It's a bit unfortunate, honestly. I was with IW for almost 10 months. Before that, I used EO. I had too many issues with EO, and their support wasn't very helpful, always claiming it was undetected or just my skill. When IW got detected, they were down for a month. So, I tried PO, but I only lasted one game before getting kicked and put into the shadow lobby. I will say, PO did refund me, so that's something. But overall, IW was much better at the time.

We refund people because we don't want to argue about it but just so you know if you get SB using a UD provider like PO you didn't get SB because of the provider. Just unfortunate timing that you got salty reports a few games or even your first game using us. Maybe your config was too strong which is why it's good to setup and test the config with bots if time allows

But anyways yeah we basically just refund anyone who asks. We want customers who want to use PO we don't want anyone to feel forced

[susplayer32]

Originally Posted by zebleer

We refund people because we don't want to argue about it but just so you know if you get SB using a UD provider like PO you didn't get SB because of the provider. Just unfortunate timing that you got salty reports a few games or even your first game using us. Maybe your config was too strong which is why it's good to setup and test the config with bots if time allows

But anyways yeah we basically just refund anyone who asks. We want customers who want to use PO we don't want anyone to feel forced

I've been doing a lot of experimenting with shadowbans, and based on what I know now, I can't say for certain whether it was due to PO or user reports. I know it shouldn't have been reports because it was a good account with a good trust factor that I'm 100% sure about, and I didn't even kill anyone. But I know that doesn't eliminate the possibilities. However, I can say that it definitely wasn't due to the settings, as that was another reason I requested a refund. The shadowban wasn't the sole reason.

My original support ticket is still in my account.

[zebleer]

Originally Posted by susplayer32

I've been doing a lot of experimenting with shadowbans, and based on what I know now, I can't say for certain whether it was due to PO or user reports. I know it shouldn't have been reports because it was a good account with a good trust factor that I'm 100% sure about, and I didn't even kill anyone. But I know that doesn't eliminate the possibilities. However, I can say that it definitely wasn't due to the settings, as that was another reason I requested a refund. The shadowban wasn't the sole reason.

My original support ticket is still in my account.

PO is fully UD it doesn't cause SB just by injecting it. It would be from user reports, drastic changes in playstyle/behavior, or any other factors that legitimate players are exposed to

Either way you made your choice & got your refund I'll leave it be now

[susplayer32]

Originally Posted by zebleer

PO is fully UD it doesn't cause SB just by injecting it. It would be from user reports, drastic changes in playstyle/behavior, or any other factors that legitimate players are exposed to

Either way you made your choice & got your refund I'll leave it be now

I understand what causes shadowbans pretty well, and I'm not disagreeing. Although it was a while back, I did look up my account again and I will say I was slightly off in my memory of the complete reason. I'm glad I double-checked before getting too far into anything about it. I may be coming to check you out in the future again, or maybe even check out the sthealthwar guy, but he looks too familiar so I don't know yet.

edit found why i though he was familiar

[mememachinez]

Originally Posted by Musu

Hmm how woudld you compare todays systemcheats features and options compared to IW? I've used them for MW 2019 quite some time but always felt since they're not 100% focusing on CoD they might be sooner to dectect.

tbh systemcheats has pretty much all the features u need, aimbot (with really good prediction), player esp, 2d radar, item esp and triggerbot (never used trigger bot though not my kinda thing).

tbh the main thing holding them back compared to other providers for me was that they NEVER added skeleton esp to any of their cheats, but finally last year they decided to add it, so i would say that is a big improvement from when u last tried them.

[BagsFernandes]

yes, rip

[susplayer32]

Originally Posted by BagsFernandes

yes, rip

hmm your sig looks familiar you done switched up from being with IW to EO?



Pre-comp_2.gif and Comp_1_8.gif

i had this from a few weeks ago... they both came from the same discord channel whats goin on here?

[DEGE5561]

Originally Posted by zebleer

AA removed controller support after detection


If you want security, you should come to Phantom Overlay. I have proven and will continue to prove that my entire existence right now is to stay ahead of Ricochet & stay anonymous from Activision

So if you enjoyed IW for the security aspect come to PO

If it was controller support you'd have to use DS4 to have controller aimbot with PO or use ESP only with controller input. I don't think there is any fully safe way to do controller support that adds no vectors so I haven't added better support for that reason



System gets detected periodically and seems to hide it. It's a bit easy because no one seems to talk about them here much besides one guy. I noticed they seemed to get detected after S2 Reloaded & I didn't see anything about it besides some users who came to PO

If such a situation is the case, why does xenos publish these friends in the trusted list? Friends, the issue is really important. iW had a significant customer base. Nowadays everyone is looking for a new trick. po is very good in terms of security. Aimbot needs improvement. because smoothness is very bad. An aimbot like iw will make you fly zeb buddy. proofcore pay 60 dollars and get only security. Don't expect anything related to cheating. FPS drops etc etc are really annoying. Need more information about system cheats.

[BagsFernandes]

Originally Posted by susplayer32

hmm your sig looks familiar you done switched up from being with IW to EO?



Pre-comp_2.gif and Comp_1_8.gif

i had this from a few weeks ago... they both came from the same discord channel whats goin on here?

yes