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[Release] Forge of Empires Farmer

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Old 01/26/2014, 09:59   #196
 
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I started with a "clean" XP VM. At first run says I don't have .NET and asks if I want to install it. Got a choice between 4.00 & 4.03. I first picked 4.03 but after install it would still say I needed to install .net. Once I installed 4 it started.

For some reason it just sits there and does not do anything aside from the first time when it starts.

Anyway to enable some logging that might help?
I kinda did the same. Installed Windows XP on a VM, installed .NET 4.0 and everything worked normally. The logs wont really help if nothing is happeninig. I'll add more details about next pickup/production start in the next version.

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Hey guys just a heads up. I was banned today for using automation programs to play the game. This was the ONLY bot i ever used on FoE. It is a great bot and i give a lot of thanks to Fsamot for making it.

I did OVER USE the bot. So I gladly accept my ban but just a warning to you guys.
Hm, so I guess they do some kind of monitoring for unhuman like play times.

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Hi Fsamot,

I wanna get Alcatraz bp so I add some new friends (picked from Global Ranking) and add custom support rules for new invited friends (but they do not accept friend invitation yet). Then the bot trys to support new not-accepted-yet-friends and crash (log out).

May you fix it please?

Thank you for your amazing bot.
I see. Will be fixed in the next version.
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Old 01/26/2014, 10:06   #197
 
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Hey guys just a heads up. I was banned today for using automation programs to play the game. This was the ONLY bot i ever used on FoE. It is a great bot and i give a lot of thanks to Fsamot for making it.

I did OVER USE the bot. So I gladly accept my ban but just a warning to you guys.
Is your (this) forum name same as FoE name?
Got banned today too.. My security delay was 10sec, I was producing 8 hour productions only, wasn't running it all the time, mostly used it for auto-polishing. I was at beginning of Modern Era.
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Old 01/26/2014, 10:46   #198
 
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Regarding bot bans: is it normal that the bot starts all the productions simultaneously? I mean, i should be able to click building -> click production item in 1-2 seconds. This corresponds to 1-2 seconds of interval between each click. The bot instead just sends all the building clicks at once (for me, it sent 10 production start command instantly). This behavior is clearly not human and easily detectable. I believe it should be corrected.
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Old 01/26/2014, 10:52   #199
 
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Not really. Click on a house building to collect coins then click on a production building and set a production. If you do this multiple times within 5 seconds they all get send in a batch to the server in one request.

The way I see it there are two options why people got banned. First one, they have some way of detecting the bot and everyone that uses this bot will get banned (unlikely) or the second one, they just monitor for unhuman like actions and then ban you.

I will however recheck and compare the bot with the client to see if there are any mismatches, in the next version.
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Old 01/26/2014, 11:57   #200
 
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Hey Fsamot, i appreciate your work done. Use this bot since two weeks, but luckily got not banned. For security reasons i now post here with a new name. I dont think they will ban you alone by name coincides, but we dont wanna give them another hints
I feel with your losses mates, but could you give us some more information, e.g. what is exactly in your cases "overuse"? I used bot during some nights, but never 24/7. And i did production every 5 minutes. but i had breaks in bot uptimes, roundabout 50%. So maybe this saved me or they just flagged me and will ban me in future Things could be different on different language versions.

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I suppose you had some of the auto refresh featues in the bot's preferences activated. like refresh friendlist (player data) every x minutes or auto-relog every x minutes. In this case it helps you nothing when you do 8 hour production since you are still always online in their server logs. And i think this is their main reason when they ban people since nobody cant sleep for like a week when they dont share accounts, which is also forbidden.

The flash client collects commands that happens in a short amount of time, e.g. when you click buildings to collect coins, in one single request. This is a legitimate and human way to send requests, they wont ban on this. And as far as i can see the time-window where user-actions will be grouped together is extended with every click you do. So the window could grow big enough to do legitimatly alot of user-actions. This should be no issue.

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How often and when does the farmer checks for notifications events? I think it would be very clumsy to check every minute for a new ingame message when the user sleeps anyway The bot should not be a chatting-with-gameserver engine for less important stuff. Is disabling all notfications sufficient for stopping all server-interactions? So that the bot really sleeps between collecting stuff and the user-defined interval works like a constraint for maximum activity. This would result, in appearing on server-side, less online uptimes.
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Old 01/26/2014, 12:34   #201
 
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Ooops! You're right, didn't see this kind of behavior. Thanks for enlightening me
PS: yeah i changed username too.. :s
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Old 01/26/2014, 12:35   #202
 
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I does not actually check for new messages by it self. The way it works is you do an action like pickup or start production and you get a response that may also contain other information like new message, quest complete ...
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Old 01/26/2014, 13:36   #203
 
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Everyone change this forum's username, if it's matching your FoE name!

It's pretty comfirmed, they're monitoring the forum.. I have 3 accounts, one matched this forum's name and only that account got banned, even thought on that account I was using the bot least of all and those other 2 are more suspicious.

Also, this page has conquered google and now it's showing up even if you search for regular FoE releated things with same tags. (Propably that's what made all this attention)

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Old 01/26/2014, 13:40   #204
 
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What about older messages? We should ask an admin to delete our accounts...
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Old 01/27/2014, 16:32   #205
 
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use forge not working.
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Old 01/27/2014, 17:00   #206
 
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Yep, auto-forge point using is not working for me either.
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Old 01/27/2014, 17:26   #207
 
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Is there a way for em to find out we are using this guys ?

Btw what is autoforge ?

Sorry kinda new to this game.
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Old 01/27/2014, 17:51   #208
 
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I think there is a problem if you are just using the research function, because FP count is getting updated when resources change (like start production, pickup ...).

You can check this by looking at FP count in the resources tab in the bot.
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Old 01/27/2014, 20:56   #209
 
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that could be the problem they are facing because I'm using the auto forge stuff and its working just fine for me but I have everything else turned on as well
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Old 01/27/2014, 23:57   #210
 
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Just confirmed it that this is the problem and will be fixed in the next version.
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