ihr kennt sicherlich reCAPTCHA von Google (
)Ich hab mich damit beschäftigt es auszulesen und dann in einer GUI anzeigen zu lassen, jedoch kann ich mir ein paar Variablen nicht erklären:
Code:
https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/frame?c=03AHJ_VuvN4s5zmF_VpjNVwqsXjKuJxoaeXFXmLctaFox6skI5qxiODwUenijoyYPKMRGGVMzPavThj0JXa13UZTTNxLyw0nzthrzETA1gdR2d4WA5jJLJ8S5ckGd2ARtmr_F993hdu8u3PjHn42Mm9jGJcvq3bBj3rurgsJhRacu2yH13nwN5XQNqt1IT3pieczcNSczbdcTBCn8t3u2cqGWAPp7eUWutaxh4FWhE-LzNfGTPAgNXsnuqbuRxahZAB6bNLqxbeOjaJ2FamnoopQq-fqaNQf3oAmn6c4xIk8sumcC5NdMS7h9yGw1fIQVRjoXe9S9Dai65sDdwsJQpNMk_KtQhJswN596O3a4kNqpaF5Uy2wRBtVskf3xg2YORXzyh0cP_w8253Gk3K0FVyAahedLfmKW8qfbL-ywogHQZFVqz1gWxi5WfNw2jNZie1WlEvmwkZz5YwYT5QEQtl9FPzXIEttuF9GbCUX-1lf6yQLtzqsZcbhgtS-0_gLs0PPnnmS63XMEoFx7YoLqVeDagCMl7x0VuQV8Ux-K8iKQOWfoxQTCOvAlueps9TeNLeRnmaAQfNc7CWwwKmcVo0u6VjLOiDiiyBA&hl=de&k=6Let4wUTAAAAAMNnLgf6tzLbnsISRkMWVACUta7X&v=r20151013164303&bcr=%5B-375202826%2C-1339687583%2C210199059%2C1073483688%2C-1397561157%2C-528594218%2C-57197996%2C1723752503%2C167205579%2C2008817168%2C-618491679%2C-181985359%2C-1558098361%2C712156813%2C-1193041475%5D&bg=!EBZHynEXMqiX-FJBREANEuvtFkoHAAAAJFcAAAAGLwDJxBZquOs7NU0V9nWzUIeTrGpI5pw3AId8Jg89oS6n6ZEGS1tXsN7fR6pUW3Dj_x6vFruvWcoPvayNvho3tVb_x6qpOmsxy_7VK0mYU2PIxBpJnDaJvQE0buMxSHCeCmH141lBXlEvJeH071x6TSl7MqtQWPjtJQHzkjMghEUIWFA8MVqGPiN0VTTQbwCXzb3hb1QiF-2IFRIL3UB3nGkgUhpJkj-af3GBjVFAlQ5bgaFDhr-h3hodgkJ91WgptvrH7b_pcUa1JDPo&chr=%5B2%2C69%2C13%5D&usegapi=1&jsh=m%3B%2F_%2Fscs%2Fapps-static%2F_%2Fjs%2Fk%3Doz.gapi.de.jDz2e1JM0ss.O%2Fm%3D__features__%2Fam%3DEQ%2Frt%3Dj%2Fd%3D1%2Ft%3Dzcms%2Frs%3DAGLTcCPzHi-kwvIWwyHeD7mrv78j9hsz9g#id=I2_1445372185219&parent=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.coc-servers.com&pfname=&rpctoken=41023724

Die Seite wo das Captcha auftaucht:

Die Variable "jsh" scheint immer gleich zu bleiben...
Unbekannte Variablen:
- bcr
- bg
- chr
(- jsh | scheint immer gleich zu bleiben)
- id
- rpctoken
Bekannte Variablen:
- k | kann im Quellcode herausgefiltert werden
Code:
<div class="g-recaptcha" data-sitekey="6Let4wUTAAAAAMNnLgf6tzLbnsISRkMWVACUta7X"></div>
herausgefunden werden, zusammen mit anderen evtl. interessanten Informationen(- v | scheint auch immer gleich zu bleiben)
(- usegapi | scheint immer 1 zu sein)
- parent | Der "übergeordnete" link
- pfname | leer
Wenn man per Live HTTP Headers die Packete "snifft", wird beim klicken auf das Feld zum verifizieren eine Abfrage gestartet(Der Link der oben zu sehen ist (/recaptcha/api2/frame...))
und beim empfangen des Bildes kommt folgendes an:
Code:
https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/payload?c=03AHJ_VutdZAGR_7YGpwkAJlJ43AeFG5ho9BVyfBBPh3ueYYhv8uVMh2y_M-dE_0UUEvA6cEAz1st6VN4wBTwoNVG8rNa_0oZcn8QWUTmePUSb1eiNpdfi0QkKnlH_x3LBQNfCETV7I-yfpkofdhKqt1R0V-6ZjYmXILW_S_81X7t1GQ-sqHOy-e_yI6gDJctRLAdLu0KWqarVyF8CkbsXop01xbXq11gJKe3v0NjZ9RG2KRoQwOT_fXLe6IJc1yVFG4X_LdTj22QwPYGVJR4PpLGlHJjIvEm6nxmAXWOecIpD9CJPmoToXgfdeBkN5V89AgvnpFPvapfV9hhBEsnPgTf94z1Hc1kpVmQItZ7BkuUj15m6qEE2cm7WiyJOc2XeVNbOfLrtFdsm2XfSgQNMyS937-0Z8NylyYV213u9xC15hjWL1y88tkc-U_EqyhflJnY4EArB2XwkOeaE_bQ1e8IO7dFsIhvWwLZOompLThgItwEfxrSnkCDLXuuWfN5jXw5mwS3CuN0pLHhfBlPl8VAMr4tVSXLfCSvUAjqTI0_VvNWE9SiPdGxP9T-eY4O2nhLoTKrlRjmMJ7JByx6AdJIu3AQXW_oH-o4U22KkMpp-N-3HVuMbcbszkPt91qzMvSiJ7egFBGcDVVjoiAXb2ER2KoZGKq9R7sWxXl7U1LjDp75AptXNfGpXtvqBqzcht2ApGQcVFrAgjldBm3nYFdasSyKbfeBQsyhqUcjwIyOvTnkLfRg-2E-h1GhRALeQbN6NQKR2s3azXKB5MHt-w9H0KxxU57g4sY05xmHX-ZBiU3K-yCycvupJDJF6nzlm54W1cn8pyWotuH3sjv6z5bdonAnzNccKHAjU7Yk0OvK5DJsD_vVX-GIFa8ysrTjiCqXuPaKEDXYtLQseSrzsMKASKYJaq-XD2PF12h-GHjPbTsnnnyS1ZJU&k=6Let4wUTAAAAAMNnLgf6tzLbnsISRkMWVACUta7X
Code:
https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/frame?c=&hl=de&k=6Let4wUTAAAAAMNnLgf6tzLbnsISRkMWVACUta7X&v=r20151013164303&bcr=%5B1048537843%2C1886111061%2C-682800269%2C-1714305356%2C-1721435022%2C-1217705053%2C1909225257%2C728060708%2C-991844294%2C-1876303121%2C-375202826%2C1874364346%2C1879488657%2C-857725803%2C-1772488998%5D&bg=!NDJHUiQJ-05j2jFBFeanQoivQokHAAAAJlcAAAAFLwDJ2m7kVMA7LxqoD-BuDS3IHOWQIbfYkn1Vn5TCUOiTvY8gQHOGO_l3_RvWd5FM-r6xcviuJKHuHPGH3IET-5r3cx8a5wfgpfLB3WQ1d9l-Z436BKovJfhB3rSsCw6n3LKDCks6p6xhbrDTKP3GYh3r7T4pStHyC4n-JK1nQNZKc8IbLf4ArFvZIxsoHK0imzALkarC4KrjgQRcbv6QvYbW6ZUG90M0lj93vRKCP5wsNtC5jVrxZApNeiVqPXvrm4TcomRR4pQOYDkK&chr=%5B7%2C47%2C61%5D&usegapi=1&jsh=m%3B%2F_%2Fscs%2Fapps-static%2F_%2Fjs%2Fk%3Doz.gapi.de.jDz2e1JM0ss.O%2Fm%3D__features__%2Fam%3DEQ%2Frt%3Dj%2Fd%3D1%2Ft%3Dzcms%2Frs%3DAGLTcCPzHi-kwvIWwyHeD7mrv78j9hsz9g#id=I2_1445369843066&parent=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.coc-servers.com&pfname=&rpctoken=26426262 GET /recaptcha/api2/frame?c=03AHJ_VutMYHd-vo-5fUsX7lPYO6xZ8cQuWvSYCq0hcPumCLqYdQ_KmjTPJuuAVoIGAaiCKFibC3HB0YECDZmBLNdX5brvejNh6Gg7O-b7oJM9Pbah1g_m-nJGKdQk36XcdQQOQSmUU6LPzvm4MP5KHVotcneyt91doXBNuVYFeFpgztukmN3osFSzycpwDhQbuHQx2vlzXDeaB4mDk_yaS4ClKU8hooDyiOAnnSJuceQNZMh53KyTdZvKxUetD94LepBnMseo-jl9brjJjfy3RzcPP73vQFgMkXK6bw0emJSsg249C7W0PU-O5o1oT_rl20LoIh98DW1YV79nHwZ-R7apGmSCm0lQmJeH9GquVb6n3sv6IIvEvXU_R8-nObhWfuVx-YAOiZ2AiRQg2b_lZkhsJv1xgaikAoqA12aLpvxO_lFOf9zyvrf3DpGX0dKv_ZstrOAujCvapvIlOQ6MhO2ZICyOijbC-4TeWPS3k03V0b7Mcv8yitoaHww0OpOIiyJrMKNIaeSm2_rXcoRhcbnS2lyxmH8m7SgQioT855Uq6v_9v80nebKchManxR00HWt_O2T0b9mH&hl=de&k=6Let4wUTAAAAAMNnLgf6tzLbnsISRkMWVACUta7X&v=r20151013164303&bcr=%5B1048537843%2C1886111061%2C-682800269%2C-1714305356%2C-1721435022%2C-1217705053%2C1909225257%2C728060708%2C-991844294%2C-1876303121%2C-375202826%2C1874364346%2C1879488657%2C-857725803%2C-1772488998%5D&bg=!NDJHUiQJ-05j2jFBFeanQoivQokHAAAAJlcAAAAFLwDJ2m7kVMA7LxqoD-BuDS3IHOWQIbfYkn1Vn5TCUOiTvY8gQHOGO_l3_RvWd5FM-r6xcviuJKHuHPGH3IET-5r3cx8a5wfgpfLB3WQ1d9l-Z436BKovJfhB3rSsCw6n3LKDCks6p6xhbrDTKP3GYh3r7T4pStHyC4n-JK1nQNZKc8IbLf4ArFvZIxsoHK0imzALkarC4KrjgQRcbv6QvYbW6ZUG90M0lj93vRKCP5wsNtC5jVrxZApNeiVqPXvrm4TcomRR4pQOYDkK&chr=%5B7%2C47%2C61%5D&usegapi=1&jsh=m%3B%2F_%2Fscs%2Fapps-static%2F_%2Fjs%2Fk%3Doz.gapi.de.jDz2e1JM0ss.O%2Fm%3D__features__%2Fam%3DEQ%2Frt%3Dj%2Fd%3D1%2Ft%3Dzcms%2Frs%3DAGLTcCPzHi-kwvIWwyHeD7mrv78j9hsz9g HTTP/1.1 Host: www.google.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Language: de,en-US;q=0.7,en;q=0.3 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate Referer: https://www.coc-servers.com/servers/2150-FHx-C_Server/vote Cookie: NID=67=mTnb5nugPxfmO2dNELPcILZjVz3gaaELtfZ7CLqCFnIR0ZxfdADIx-TXPxuWD3NIns5Xlg0mvbcuhQnM9Iv_i-WVBM-O-IyPoB41aT8ckaVzhi8g-weimv7CPhntKZd3qHd5GKOo-tM_1PRorrp3hkZjKTuJY8mS7m9R5AAi-AD4JSNcpkj3cKoiY5cRbOPFpFY; SID=DQAAAP0AAAC4NlLruA2ILHop5VDps__Nzl99yRIimRISQSTEwT93iNUTV36pczGoa3Cgk9ak2027S6oclWErxSIULO0sNdTgMzh7cVSFsSWVN6rxqYdyBSBFuzR1r5zcGceA-kWO5MHhfPwEBH3U51nGD2by1r-FvfLuImx5rzwLpvCU8q0c-YT7xJTkYYk8W5kdUdUWvoKS195_HZth9dSHp4hi2Cbf9Lj7o_Umo06vN56K0y3BcdNlvTuQpLGAv0nKCe3vJxDZqYdkiyjadyC-_tH4NcYmUjUEoBZBjNnz_y6sYkW0W7lMrgqyfulHqK3W9qYYbAop64Q3Dh1VDCE5fhNdsFUB; HSID=AoltHQuFR5Gp4Q7zz; SSID=AkAOy4aUXLeyo7n-y; APISID=Hziz07kdWNfamtar/AKvtwOix0j_9ziwa-; SAPISID=aFv2bHZTiIwZxgKb/AhuNyam4NHOYii_3w; PREF=ID=1111111111111111:FF=0:LD=de:TM=1436286582:LM=1436286582:V=1:S=MvhaWNpFZ0HFMKvC Connection: keep-alive HTTP/2.0 200 OK Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store, must-revalidate Pragma: no-cache Expires: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 GMT Content-Encoding: gzip Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 19:37:20 GMT X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff X-XSS-Protection: 1; mode=block Content-Length: 9541 Server: GSE alternate-protocol: 443:quic,p=1 Alt-Svc: quic="www.google.com:443"; p="1"; ma=600,quic=":443"; p="1"; ma=600 X-Firefox-Spdy: h2
Code:
https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/payload?c=03AHJ_VutefMQHNPhEXvxq9NptrOmWAMyYvCvtLzlCo5-r6oV1xIUx5WWsFKXpK25R2znpqwMnpzHO2eOJS-Lj8M-Q9Gmkn2y_FdK4-e2km2EOLasyM8gm9fZY_ZqEEXa__2xy3JjGQiEE44luUACbHASDZtBvgnT-JTG-bLxzP2yyOR74MVMtDPuKQrrdqwxMdrIkfup4OQ8tK5Rl7aalUXuAFEPDHE2bFcGq-cpLL3A-j22-xoCoGpyDPSirK6wJB-vIlMGB129qdwrnZLCxxJikDYNlqVJRnQ5UcSk_AhXLa6axCULLBXDLvGVz--nLbV58ammHMDZHQCyhHLQgcRJt6NdUjdsg0K0VizYiFoULU-bxUzRh5wz0ifujuMb9NLN9SP_2RUN9DKkXHheEEmwwh5WxZGZgX6BlJkcyl98EcztN9mmpkga_mP0eGTivIzALvk21Sk_rfAhKqic6WBubqCsyyCAgVbEEiQAH_05MziFisJTBekb1WhSbdrlMQmtUbFQJBi3tOD2IJCwI38VQYn-mLOSesuvdZIfkQz0EdYQPdtJlRu_i-Lu9bwV1ln-Kv6NggSpaalHu7rkSDkFQh7D9xWrKIBEs2Ww3jkppbCEFQBGbEuIhMM1rrXjQMVtrYbTiErZMCg9mJc81_KREqZlQw8E_QLXkjKBjUpuUJQRydKEoXUlvnu0WEAjvCR1avv6331OlBSPE_1_p5poFOIiB5PYya282KiYiC2xIzYRJ7f4iDdoi4M4SFiVpfW-v-kTvzaheP4cEwji9_a8ANBuqURu0WoBJVAK9nKhwOY_6xSjh3nsdpqiCqRfNPC1VuKnz-93PmqNLri4kCSSipG_-e28TZ545eX8HMfhF8uh6Yc6R4OdHYwdFYfrrU3WtfJ8-uy9WhLhvW_rnL6ct3nU_-TIKxSSYf1saHzIdcQXV0OrZ6hY26Psxijvgq0xp8JUfSeWc&k=6Let4wUTAAAAAMNnLgf6tzLbnsISRkMWVACUta7X GET /recaptcha/api2/payload?c=03AHJ_VutefMQHNPhEXvxq9NptrOmWAMyYvCvtLzlCo5-r6oV1xIUx5WWsFKXpK25R2znpqwMnpzHO2eOJS-Lj8M-Q9Gmkn2y_FdK4-e2km2EOLasyM8gm9fZY_ZqEEXa__2xy3JjGQiEE44luUACbHASDZtBvgnT-JTG-bLxzP2yyOR74MVMtDPuKQrrdqwxMdrIkfup4OQ8tK5Rl7aalUXuAFEPDHE2bFcGq-cpLL3A-j22-xoCoGpyDPSirK6wJB-vIlMGB129qdwrnZLCxxJikDYNlqVJRnQ5UcSk_AhXLa6axCULLBXDLvGVz--nLbV58ammHMDZHQCyhHLQgcRJt6NdUjdsg0K0VizYiFoULU-bxUzRh5wz0ifujuMb9NLN9SP_2RUN9DKkXHheEEmwwh5WxZGZgX6BlJkcyl98EcztN9mmpkga_mP0eGTivIzALvk21Sk_rfAhKqic6WBubqCsyyCAgVbEEiQAH_05MziFisJTBekb1WhSbdrlMQmtUbFQJBi3tOD2IJCwI38VQYn-mLOSesuvdZIfkQz0EdYQPdtJlRu_i-Lu9bwV1ln-Kv6NggSpaalHu7rkSDkFQh7D9xWrKIBEs2Ww3jkppbCEFQBGbEuIhMM1rrXjQMVtrYbTiErZMCg9mJc81_KREqZlQw8E_QLXkjKBjUpuUJQRydKEoXUlvnu0WEAjvCR1avv6331OlBSPE_1_p5poFOIiB5PYya282KiYiC2xIzYRJ7f4iDdoi4M4SFiVpfW-v-kTvzaheP4cEwji9_a8ANBuqURu0WoBJVAK9nKhwOY_6xSjh3nsdpqiCqRfNPC1VuKnz-93PmqNLri4kCSSipG_-e28TZ545eX8HMfhF8uh6Yc6R4OdHYwdFYfrrU3WtfJ8-uy9WhLhvW_rnL6ct3nU_-TIKxSSYf1saHzIdcQXV0OrZ6hY26Psxijvgq0xp8JUfSeWc&k=6Let4wUTAAAAAMNnLgf6tzLbnsISRkMWVACUta7X HTTP/1.1 Host: www.google.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 Accept: image/png,image/*;q=0.8,*/*;q=0.5 Accept-Language: de,en-US;q=0.7,en;q=0.3 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate Referer: https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/frame?c=03AHJ_VutMYHd-vo-5fUsX7lPYO6xZ8cQuWvSYCq0hcPumCLqYdQ_KmjTPJuuAVoIGAaiCKFibC3HB0YECDZmBLNdX5brvejNh6Gg7O-b7oJM9Pbah1g_m-nJGKdQk36XcdQQOQSmUU6LPzvm4MP5KHVotcneyt91doXBNuVYFeFpgztukmN3osFSzycpwDhQbuHQx2vlzXDeaB4mDk_yaS4ClKU8hooDyiOAnnSJuceQNZMh53KyTdZvKxUetD94LepBnMseo-jl9brjJjfy3RzcPP73vQFgMkXK6bw0emJSsg249C7W0PU-O5o1oT_rl20LoIh98DW1YV79nHwZ-R7apGmSCm0lQmJeH9GquVb6n3sv6IIvEvXU_R8-nObhWfuVx-YAOiZ2AiRQg2b_lZkhsJv1xgaikAoqA12aLpvxO_lFOf9zyvrf3DpGX0dKv_ZstrOAujCvapvIlOQ6MhO2ZICyOijbC-4TeWPS3k03V0b7Mcv8yitoaHww0OpOIiyJrMKNIaeSm2_rXcoRhcbnS2lyxmH8m7SgQioT855Uq6v_9v80nebKchManxR00HWt_O2T0b9mH&hl=de&k=6Let4wUTAAAAAMNnLgf6tzLbnsISRkMWVACUta7X&v=r20151013164303&bcr=%5B1048537843%2C1886111061%2C-682800269%2C-1714305356%2C-1721435022%2C-1217705053%2C1909225257%2C728060708%2C-991844294%2C-1876303121%2C-375202826%2C1874364346%2C1879488657%2C-857725803%2C-1772488998%5D&bg=!NDJHUiQJ-05j2jFBFeanQoivQokHAAAAJlcAAAAFLwDJ2m7kVMA7LxqoD-BuDS3IHOWQIbfYkn1Vn5TCUOiTvY8gQHOGO_l3_RvWd5FM-r6xcviuJKHuHPGH3IET-5r3cx8a5wfgpfLB3WQ1d9l-Z436BKovJfhB3rSsCw6n3LKDCks6p6xhbrDTKP3GYh3r7T4pStHyC4n-JK1nQNZKc8IbLf4ArFvZIxsoHK0imzALkarC4KrjgQRcbv6QvYbW6ZUG90M0lj93vRKCP5wsNtC5jVrxZApNeiVqPXvrm4TcomRR4pQOYDkK&chr=%5B7%2C47%2C61%5D&usegapi=1&jsh=m%3B%2F_%2Fscs%2Fapps-static%2F_%2Fjs%2Fk%3Doz.gapi.de.jDz2e1JM0ss.O%2Fm%3D__features__%2Fam%3DEQ%2Frt%3Dj%2Fd%3D1%2Ft%3Dzcms%2Frs%3DAGLTcCPzHi-kwvIWwyHeD7mrv78j9hsz9g Cookie: NID=67=mTnb5nugPxfmO2dNELPcILZjVz3gaaELtfZ7CLqCFnIR0ZxfdADIx-TXPxuWD3NIns5Xlg0mvbcuhQnM9Iv_i-WVBM-O-IyPoB41aT8ckaVzhi8g-weimv7CPhntKZd3qHd5GKOo-tM_1PRorrp3hkZjKTuJY8mS7m9R5AAi-AD4JSNcpkj3cKoiY5cRbOPFpFY; SID=DQAAAP0AAAC4NlLruA2ILHop5VDps__Nzl99yRIimRISQSTEwT93iNUTV36pczGoa3Cgk9ak2027S6oclWErxSIULO0sNdTgMzh7cVSFsSWVN6rxqYdyBSBFuzR1r5zcGceA-kWO5MHhfPwEBH3U51nGD2by1r-FvfLuImx5rzwLpvCU8q0c-YT7xJTkYYk8W5kdUdUWvoKS195_HZth9dSHp4hi2Cbf9Lj7o_Umo06vN56K0y3BcdNlvTuQpLGAv0nKCe3vJxDZqYdkiyjadyC-_tH4NcYmUjUEoBZBjNnz_y6sYkW0W7lMrgqyfulHqK3W9qYYbAop64Q3Dh1VDCE5fhNdsFUB; HSID=AoltHQuFR5Gp4Q7zz; SSID=AkAOy4aUXLeyo7n-y; APISID=Hziz07kdWNfamtar/AKvtwOix0j_9ziwa-; SAPISID=aFv2bHZTiIwZxgKb/AhuNyam4NHOYii_3w; PREF=ID=1111111111111111:FF=0:LD=de:TM=1436286582:LM=1436286582:V=1:S=MvhaWNpFZ0HFMKvC Connection: keep-alive HTTP/2.0 200 OK Content-Type: image/jpeg Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 19:37:21 GMT Expires: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 19:37:21 GMT Cache-Control: private, max-age=0 X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN X-XSS-Protection: 1; mode=block Content-Length: 40845 Server: GSE alternate-protocol: 443:quic,p=1 Alt-Svc: quic="www.google.com:443"; p="1"; ma=600,quic=":443"; p="1"; ma=600 X-Firefox-Spdy: h2
Wenn sich das überhaupt jemand durchgelesen hat würde ich mich freuen wenn er vielleicht etwas mehr darüber weiß als ich






