Pvp server?

[xtJamie]

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[PeteSauce]

Twerk the ref rate to like 100% till +10 or something and that might sound good

[witek1992]

If you are looking for a popular server don't do it. There isn't really that much players who like pvp.
But if you aren't aiming for that then go for it, the idea is great.

[senatovici]

This kind of server would be fun but it won't last....there are a few people who still donate on private servers even there where IM is not free xD But I say again...this kind of server would be fun!

[josped]

Here we go again... Wonder when a lightbulb will go off and people will grep that "a classic acclaim style server with pure hardcore pvp" can't have any of those things... Because that's when the game broke down.

Or to put it simply, let's talk about 9D in a "timeline".

1. CS cap. Shit gear, shit xp, some events sometimes. Balanced PvP only disturbed by 6 items. Easily fixed. Lots of people all the time, pvp is fun, bp always full.
   
2. LD released. 2nd role. Def clothes. Balance even worse as new skills/gear were made for the "9D v2" k9d stat system and make a mess on "9d v1" system. Less people, pvp is a mixed bag, bp is so so. Some people around, some hardcore pvpers still at it, bp is the same usual crowd everyday.
   
3. Icy released. 500/600 def sets become available, things really start going to hell. Even less people, pvp is a laugh, bp's usual crowd started diminishing.
   
4. Tibet release. Hell is here. KS/KJ epis and new CC merchant items turn PvP into a pointless exercise in futility. There's a few dozen players still around, pvp is a joke, bp looks like a graveyard most of the time.

And on and on. From 1 onward, always same trend. More pointless shit added, less people, less fun, nothing fixed and more stuff broken. Sad story of a good game.

So, no, it's a fail and offers nothing we haven't had before anyway....

Wanna make a REAL 9D server that might have a shot? Easy.

• Remove 2nd role. VERY IMPORTANT.
  
• Cut maps at LD, cap at HM3/4 (enough to make GCM and Beast bosses orange)
  
• Remove def trink and the 50/60 def relics, remove CC merch items, remove MD items, remove kg/root/mush, remove all def clothes but the RL4 set.
  
• Restrict decos to old no stat decos.
  
• DON'T sell speed/dodge pots on IM.
  
• Cut refine at +8, give people a stack of +1 scrolls, donators can go +10 with +2 scrolls. Make +1-+5 no fail, 50/25/5 for 6/7/8.
  
  
• Give everyone a decent "starters pack". Jade plate, Jade seal, the 4 "order of xxxx" thingies, the final bamboo quest relic, hp trink, no slot 1/1k hat.

Then get some nice people that can run some pvp events on a regular basis, with good rewards, ie, things you CAN'T get in game, but can be made later by a GM, like 2 slot 3/1k hats, or 4 slot WD weaps, etc...

Done. Should fit on a 1week timeframe or so...

[Tenge500]

Yes Jamie, there IS a demand for it! At least I want to have a server like that and I might as well speak in other players' name like Taylor, Kronok, CJ etc. But what happened? Why did you determine yourself to try a server again?
(Since I trust you I can send you some money through paypal if you require).

Provide information please:
- Dedicated server?
- Is your hardware good enough? (Amount of RAM, CPU cores, OS, server location...)
- If the IM is free then how will you keep the server alive - apart from the donations you might get?

Please include 2nd role and make the rates high enough and keep the level cap on DB8 for a while then of course you could move on to to IM1+.


EDIT: Make the rates a bit higher than that, please.

I will join your server if it succeeds because I'm bored of all these lame *** private servers like Eod9D, Elysium. They're ridiculous. Their GM can't even speak English properly. What the f is that?
Subagames would be awesome if they had professional GM's and higher player base and lower item mall prices. But I guess that will never happen.

So yeah please make a server!

[axionnneeeel]

i would love that kind of server lol

Ps: if you're going for it let me know, i'll totally be there

[Tenge500]

Jamie gimme a link to your new site/forum!

[josped]

Originally Posted by Tenge500

Please include 2nd role and make the rates high enough and keep the level cap on DB8 for a while then of course you could move on to to IM1+.

You do understand that if he does that, he's just another P9D with a lower cap. Thus, ends exactly in the same place with no added value. Since P9D isn't doing all that well, one can assume that quite certainly a clone will not ever fare better.

The problem with 9D was fixing what wasn't ever broken. Only made sense if the whole point was to milk the cash cows for $$$, never to make a better game.

[[Arceus]]

I totally like the idea. Have you managed to talk with Luca about this?

[Tenge500]

Originally Posted by josped

You do understand that if he does that, he's just another P9D with a lower cap. Thus, ends exactly in the same place with no added value. Since P9D isn't doing all that well, one can assume that quite certainly a clone will not ever fare better.

The problem with 9D was fixing what wasn't ever broken. Only made sense if the whole point was to milk the cash cows for $$$, never to make a better game.

And why the hell should I grind a month to reach cap on x10 exp? I didn't mean to make the exp rate x600 like play9d did. Maybe x40 exp, x20 skill, x8 drop would do it. Compared to GC base rates ofc. Why do I want it? Because I'm bored of 9D. And I guess too many people are already bored. And it's going to be a pvp-oriented server so why should we waste time grinding?

[josped]

Originally Posted by Tenge500

And why the hell should I grind a month to reach cap on x10 exp?

Where did i say anything about xp rate????? Was talking about 2nd role (not necessary and not welcome for a "classic" server) and DB8 cap (i said HM3/4 as it's high enough for GCM/BP and low enough to prevent some stupid things). And for HM3/4, 10-20x is more than enough, a week to cap tops.

Originally Posted by Tenge500

Why do I want it? Because I'm bored of 9D. And I guess too many people are already bored.

Well, thanks for supporting my point. You're bored. A new server comes that is just the same as the other and you'll either be too bored to play or will become bored as now pretty soon after.

Don't blame you, the game as it is is a PoS that focuses on player<>mob "interaction" for the purpose of milking $$$ out of suckers instead of player<>player interaction for the purpose of a fun game.

But to achieve "fun state" we have to undo the "damage" that was done and not keep doing the same old thing that has been proven again and again as "not working".

And point in case, my suggestions are "path of least resistance". Takes a week (or less if you have experience with the files) to hammer down the server to "old school with tweaks". Worst case scenario, doesn't work and it's easy to revert to "standard values". Best case it works and we become VeryHappyPlayersTM.

[axionnneeeel]

Originally Posted by Tenge500

And why the hell should I grind a month to reach cap on x10 exp? I didn't mean to make the exp rate x600 like play9d did. Maybe x40 exp, x20 skill, x8 drop would do it. Compared to GC base rates ofc. Why do I want it? Because I'm bored of 9D. And I guess too many people are already bored. And it's going to be a pvp-oriented server so why should we waste time grinding?

gg for this. even if the 9d pvp system isn't the best i ever seen, i play 9d only for pvp, i don't know but i like it

[poster181]

yep, such server as u mentioned would be sick.

[Tenge500]

**** 9Dragons. **** it.