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Gameforge is going ham

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Old 08/08/2019, 13:11   #31
 
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Really im so glad they‘re doing it and I hope they develop good game with default stuff 4story had.
No battle royal sht or so.
Oh do you remember the achievement points bug on gf servers?
They needed few weeks to fix this problem and you're talking about " developing good game with default stuff 4story had." yee good luck.


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I hope 4Ancient and P4 gets shut down soon and Gameforge gets a huge amount of players and actually react to what people want.
I hate servers where it‘s just about one crit more or less on a crossbow because everyone has +24 anyways and where no one plays bows because they‘re useless and stuff..
oh come on, are you serious?

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and where no one plays bows because they‘re useless and stuff..
Do you really think it's because of P4 or 4Ancient?
Just one more thing, please stop crying...
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Old 08/08/2019, 13:19   #32
 
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The single reason that p-servers are that successful is the failing of Gameforge and the stubbornness to listen to the community. Even (I dont think so) they are able to manage the disappearing of 4ancient and p4story still no one would play on their servers. Why should people? Every running p-server is way more attractive.
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Old 08/08/2019, 13:42   #33
 
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GameForge can take legal actions only in the European nations where they have exclusive publishing right. They have rights in most of european regions but not every single one. So if pservers move servers somewhere else they're fine.
Actually they can go into some legal actions in other countries too, but the problem is and was always the money. To shutdown a pserver with a few thousand € to gain a few players/€ back would be an economical disaster for a company like Gameforge.
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Really im so glad they‘re doing it and I hope they develop good game with default stuff 4story had.
No battle royal sht or so.
What? The pservers created/improved more content in a few months than ZEMÎ/GF in multiple years. If all pservers close, there will be nothing new. GF is the publisher, not the developer. They can't do anything else than events, they can not put any changes into the game.
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I hope 4Ancient and P4 gets shut down soon and Gameforge gets a huge amount of players and actually react to what people want.
Nothing like that will happen.
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I hate servers where it‘s just about one crit more or less on a crossbow because everyone has +24 anyways and where no one plays bows because they‘re useless and stuff..
Bow as weapon is and was always useless, even on your beloved offi servers. I play since 2009 and I never met a player who really liked it to play with a bow. It's a rudimentary weapon like the 2-hand-swords which got lost due the actual usage of the classes. The bow's advantage should have been an increased HPS, while the DPS (shot, not second) got slightly decreased. Even the hitchance on this weapon is worse, you can't tell me this item was ever good - not even for War/Assa (which need even more hitchance). Before you ask, no it would be very bad to improve this weapon now - or is your aim to make the old xbows worthless now? Have fun with the player complaints then.

@ There were/are more reasons. E.g they needed ~2years to fix the goldseller problem (rip market and newcomers). Or what about the missing bug fixes, the same events over and over again, bad server stability, stupid game rules, every thing above Lv40/+28, 24/7 BG to kill open PvP (what made the game unique to other MMOs), broken classes, skill delays, nearly no options for new players etc.
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Old 08/08/2019, 17:53   #34
 
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I am not sure since i am not a lawyer and i am just an outsider in those subjects, i would be happy to know if someone actually knows anything more about it. I think it could help the community.

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You know GameForge can't push patches right? They are only PUBBLISHERS, this means they don't even know how a single String is declared into the source.
GameForge is the complete opposite of a company that listens and respect players that love their games. 4Story is the biggest example of how GF just cares about the income (like any proper corporation of course, the fact that they want to make money is not something we should criticise). GameForge had for years the opportunity to improve the game and keep it alive, but if you make a free to play game where your only option is to spend hundreds of euros to keep up in order to have some hours of fun a day is not the best choice. Private Servers work because they allow players to invest time OR money into it. This means Free to Play. The fact that you can choose what you want to invest. You have no time to play the game? You can shop out some stuff. You have time? Good you can invest it into making items and sell them to the people that don't have time, in this way also free players can have Cash-Only stuff. It's a snake that bites its own tail. Both the kind of players are necessary for this type of game. If you decide only to have paying users then add to the game a monthly subscription and allow everyone to farm ANY item into the game. The majority of people that play 4Story are now older than 18. I don't think someone would dislike the idea of playing 4Story and being able to get ANY item for 10 euros a month on an official server. Since this option doesn't exist you go to PServers.
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Old 08/08/2019, 18:30   #35
 
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Really im so glad they‘re doing it and I hope they develop good game with default stuff 4story had.
No battle royal sht or so.

I hope 4Ancient and P4 gets shut down soon and Gameforge gets a huge amount of players and actually react to what people want.
I hate servers where it‘s just about one crit more or less on a crossbow because everyone has +24 anyways and where no one plays bows because they‘re useless and stuff..
Honestly never read anything as brain dead as this, but I have a feeling that you're schizo/one of his friends so suddenly it makes complete sense.

Btw. @ it actually took them a year to fix it the first time, and a couple of weeks when the bug appeared a second time when they patched an event...
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Old 08/08/2019, 18:36   #36
 
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I am not sure since i am not a lawyer and i am just an outsider in those subjects, i would be happy to know if someone actually knows anything more about it. I think it could help the community
It is always illegal to run a private game server. For example, in Germany the articles § 106 - 108 (UrhG) make it possible to sue the owners of such a service. This can even go international, because there are some international "confederations" which protect the work of others (EU+more). It always depends on the cooperation between the certain laws and services (e.g the providers). As already said before, the real problem are the costs. It can be incredible expensive to shut down a private server (not even to mention the actions to actually reach the provider and stuff). Even then the company has to be afraid of a simple reopening (if the lawsuit wasn't hard enough).

I suggest to calm down and wait. Only when Ancient or P4 are down, then the **** begins to burn. And even then those servers will not give up.
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Old 08/08/2019, 22:32   #37
 
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It is always illegal to run a private game server. For example, in Germany the articles § 106 - 108 (UrhG) make it possible to sue the owners of such a service. This can even go international, because there are some international "confederations" which protect the work of others (EU+more). It always depends on the cooperation between the certain laws and services (e.g the providers). As already said before, the real problem are the costs. It can be incredible expensive to shut down a private server (not even to mention the actions to actually reach the provider and stuff). Even then the company has to be afraid of a simple reopening (if the lawsuit wasn't hard enough).

I suggest to calm down and wait. Only when Ancient or P4 are down, then the **** begins to burn. And even then those servers will not give up.
Thanks for the very clear explanation! Well i heard 4Ancient won't close so i guess we can still enjoy this game
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