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Hyperelk vs GGloader
Discussion on Hyperelk vs GGloader within the WoW Bots forum part of the World of Warcraft category.
07/23/2022, 13:43
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Hyperelk vs GGloader
Hey im looking for the best rotation bot for high Mythic + raids and also for high pvp rating, what are your opionions between hyperelk and ggloader which is better? im looking to buy one of these.
Ty all <3
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07/23/2022, 15:42
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If you want PvP: Use Rotations with an LUA Unlocker. Otherwise, Aimsharp vs GGLoader.
For PvE it is: HyperElk, Aimsharp, GGLoader.
Pixel-Bots really depend on the class you want to play. HyperElk doing a great Job with Melees.
Aimsharp seems to have good RangedDPS Support, but you have to buy "external" Rotations, so price is prob. Around the same, as if you would use a LUA Unlocker this day's.
GGLoader...long time I used it. I feel, after the most Community-Devs left, GGLoader got worse, but they're still charging crazy prices.
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07/23/2022, 17:00
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for PvP its GGLoader, its superior to any pixel bot out there for PvP.
PvE its what ever. Most PvE rotations are SimCraft, some devs do custom stuff etc..
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07/25/2022, 18:24
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Originally Posted by Xeniaz
for PvP its GGLoader, its superior to any pixel bot out there for PvP.
PvE its what ever. Most PvE rotations are SimCraft, some devs do custom stuff etc..
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Pvp ggloader lol -.- unless they recently updated it but I try 3 melee pvp routine over 500 usd and they are totally ****
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07/25/2022, 18:47
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Originally Posted by HoustonGuy
Pvp ggloader lol -.- unless they recently updated it but I try 3 melee pvp routine over 500 usd and they are totally ****
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is it really that bad?
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07/25/2022, 18:57
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Originally Posted by HoustonGuy
Pvp ggloader lol -.- unless they recently updated it but I try 3 melee pvp routine over 500 usd and they are totally ****
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LOL, you probally run some PvE rotations in PvP.
Ofcourse the PvE rotations going to be **** in PvP.
You have to use the PvP rotations that are available, there are few of them. Not all classes are supported
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Originally Posted by Veraxit321
is it really that bad?
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Its not, the people that complain are people running PvE rotations in PvP and think they will get gladiator afk.
You have to use the PvP rotations for PvP
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07/26/2022, 00:49
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Originally Posted by Veraxit321
Hey im looking for the best rotation bot for high Mythic + raids and also for high pvp rating, what are your opionions between hyperelk and ggloader which is better? im looking to buy one of these.
Ty all <3
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Elk is far beyond GGL, GGL is very dated, while it's still viable, it's just old and not very user-friendly.
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07/26/2022, 14:44
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Originally Posted by tamedbeast
Elk is far beyond GGL, GGL is very dated, while it's still viable, it's just old and not very user-friendly.
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I have both HyperELK and GGLoader.
In PvE for melee both perform the same.
But when it comes to range HyperELK is really bad vs GGLoader.
And when it comes to PvP hyperELK is **** and have just normal simcraft logic for PvP and the devs that make the PvP profile have 0 experience in PvP and have no clue what they doing or how PvP is.
While GGLoader is PvP rotation is almost in pair with injection rotations/LUA unlockers like back in the days with Honorbuddy and soapbox etc..
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07/26/2022, 15:35
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Originally Posted by Xeniaz
I have both HyperELK and GGLoader.
In PvE for melee both perform the same.
But when it comes to range HyperELK is really bad vs GGLoader.
And when it comes to PvP hyperELK is **** and have just normal simcraft logic for PvP and the devs that make the PvP profile have 0 experience in PvP and have no clue what they doing or how PvP is.
While GGLoader is PvP rotation is almost in pair with injection rotations/LUA unlockers like back in the days with Honorbuddy and soapbox etc..
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The problem with your statement is that you don't look at other factors that make ELK better than GGL. PVP rotations with GGL Are almost nonexistent, most of the community developers don't even develop for GGL anymore and the core developer does absolutely nothing for rotations other than minimal core updates for the core software itself only when something is not working, at the end of the day, what GGL can do in PVP so can ELk, so saying one is better than the other in that aspect really doesn't make sense, rotations for PVP really come down to the rotation developer.
90%+ of users don't care about the fine print, they only care how easy it is to set up, and how well they do in PvE, and really PVP is secondary to most people because PVP regardless of what kind of automation is used requires manual intervention.
Also suggesting GGL is in pair with LUA unlockers is a joke.. no one is taking you seriously with this statement.
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07/26/2022, 16:54
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Originally Posted by tamedbeast
The problem with your statement is that you don't look at other factors that make ELK better than GGL. PVP rotations with GGL Are almost nonexistent, most of the community developers don't even develop for GGL anymore and the core developer does absolutely nothing for rotations other than minimal core updates for the core software itself only when something is not working, at the end of the day, what GGL can do in PVP so can ELk, so saying one if better than others in that aspect really doesn't make sense, rotations for PVP really come down to the rotation developer.
90%+ of users don't care about the fine print, they only care how easy it is to set up, and how well they do in PvE, and really PVP is secondary to most people because more PVP regardless of what kind of automation is used requires manual intervention.
Also suggesting GGL is in pair with LUA unlockers is a joke.. no one is taking you seriously with this statement.
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Im guessing you have only used GGL for like 1 week? or 3 days?
Seeing as all your statment is lacking and seems like you havent tested it.
The thread starter also asked about PvP and HyperELK PvP rotation it has is shit and the devs that do the community PvP profiles are not PvPers themself or multi glad. They have 0 knowledge about PvP and you can easy see that.
GGL is in pair with some of there classes in PvP as LUA unlockers. That you think its a joke and dont know that, shows that you havent used GGL and sounds to me your knowledge is lacking.
I have used Glider, Honorbuddy,Soapbox, TuanHA rotations both firehack and EasyWoWToolbox,WowNet,HyperELK,GGLoader,Aimsharp.
I have used them all and been in the scene for years. I have knowledge about both LUA unlockers rotations and Pixel rotations.
And the fact that also HyperELK is based of the old scammers pixel bot WiNiFiX Pixel Magic and you could easy see it before they reskined there UI design, is also funny.
But HyperELK is easy to setup, its good for new users and works great in PvE for melees, but for range classes is totally shit. You can also read here on the forum and you will see more users say the exact same thing. You can also look in there discord and you will see the same.
The thread starter asked for a rotation bot for PvE AND PvP. HyperELK dosent have PvP. It has PvE.
Thats the reason i recommended him GGLoader, if thread started was a new user and just want a PvE bot. I would recommend him HyperELK. Because of easy it to get started with it and it works for most casual players that only do m+ 15 keys and HC raiding.
Anything more, then he need advanced pixelbot or a LUA unlocker and this is where GGLoader is superior to any pixelbot.
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07/27/2022, 01:32
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Originally Posted by Xeniaz
Im guessing you have only used GGL for like 1 week? or 3 days?
Seeing as all your statment is lacking and seems like you havent tested it.
The thread starter also asked about PvP and HyperELK PvP rotation it has is shit and the devs that do the community PvP profiles are not PvPers themself or multi glad. They have 0 knowledge about PvP and you can easy see that.
GGL is in pair with some of there classes in PvP as LUA unlockers. That you think its a joke and dont know that, shows that you havent used GGL and sounds to me your knowledge is lacking.
I have used Glider, Honorbuddy,Soapbox, TuanHA rotations both firehack and EasyWoWToolbox,WowNet,HyperELK,GGLoader,Aimsharp.
I have used them all and been in the scene for years. I have knowledge about both LUA unlockers rotations and Pixel rotations.
And the fact that also HyperELK is based of the old scammers pixel bot WiNiFiX Pixel Magic and you could easy see it before they reskined there UI design, is also funny.
But HyperELK is easy to setup, its good for new users and works great in PvE for melees, but for range classes is totally shit. You can also read here on the forum and you will see more users say the exact same thing. You can also look in there discord and you will see the same.
The thread starter asked for a rotation bot for PvE AND PvP. HyperELK dosent have PvP. It has PvE.
Thats the reason i recommended him GGLoader, if thread started was a new user and just want a PvE bot. I would recommend him HyperELK. Because of easy it to get started with it and it works for most casual players that only do m+ 15 keys and HC raiding.
Anything more, then he need advanced pixelbot or a LUA unlocker and this is where GGLoader is superior to any pixelbot.
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We had issue with range class in the past (We acknowledge that multiple times). We actually improved range CR over the last months. (the main issue was actually mage...)
PVE that's where our strengh is, we have users clearing +30 , 3k5 IO and mythic raider. it's definitely not limited to clear +15, thats not a fair statement.
For pvp, I believe you also used some old versions. Several members achieved glad with the rotations. (incl. myself with the rotations I provide as I only sell pvp CR if I manage to reach glad with them) We have discontinued several pvp rotations as there were not up to our standard.
If you believe there is still improvement to be done, happy to discuss it on discord. We are always happy to improve Elk. It's in continuous development.
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07/29/2022, 03:34
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Originally Posted by fmflex
We had issue with range class in the past (We acknowledge that multiple times). We actually improved range CR over the last months. (the main issue was actually mage...)
PVE that's where our strengh is, we have users clearing +30 , 3k5 IO and mythic raider. it's definitely not limited to clear +15, thats not a fair statement.
For pvp, I believe you also used some old versions. Several members achieved glad with the rotations. (incl. myself with the rotations I provide as I only sell pvp CR if I manage to reach glad with them) We have discontinued several pvp rotations as there were not up to our standard.
If you believe there is still improvement to be done, happy to discuss it on discord. We are always happy to improve Elk. It's in continuous development.
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Going to give it a try and again and checkout range classes.
Do you offer a trial period on the PvP rotations? So i can check them out and make a new review. Im always up to have my mind changed and change my stand on it, if updates been made to them
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09/15/2022, 17:50
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Originally Posted by fmflex
We had issue with range class in the past (We acknowledge that multiple times). We actually improved range CR over the last months. (the main issue was actually mage...)
PVE that's where our strengh is, we have users clearing +30 , 3k5 IO and mythic raider. it's definitely not limited to clear +15, thats not a fair statement.
For pvp, I believe you also used some old versions. Several members achieved glad with the rotations. (incl. myself with the rotations I provide as I only sell pvp CR if I manage to reach glad with them) We have discontinued several pvp rotations as there were not up to our standard.
If you believe there is still improvement to be done, happy to discuss it on discord. We are always happy to improve Elk. It's in continuous development.
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Hello, your site looks like it stopped in the 90s (it hasn't been updated for years), hideous layout with very low level of information, repetitive paragraphs and little demonstration of use (no need to put it on YouTube, there are other viable video servers), advertising is the soul of the business, if you don't know how to sell your product and are depending on forum questions, you are either lazy or ignorant (no offense).
I went to your site and couldn't find clearly which classes are supported, neither in PVE nor in PVP.
The shop session is a catastrophe (not intuitive).
For the super high price you charge for your product, if you expect a more professional website and if you don't have concrete information there, it leaves the product with low reliability, forcing "possible customers" to ask questions in forums like this, I think it's unlikely that you won't have money to pay a designer. But if you enjoy answering questions on forums, then keep doing what you're doing.
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09/16/2022, 05:00
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Originally Posted by Suzan0
Hello, your site looks like it stopped in the 90s (it hasn't been updated for years), hideous layout with very low level of information, repetitive paragraphs and little demonstration of use (no need to put it on YouTube, there are other viable video servers), advertising is the soul of the business, if you don't know how to sell your product and are depending on forum questions, you are either lazy or ignorant (no offense).
I went to your site and couldn't find clearly which classes are supported, neither in PVE nor in PVP.
The shop session is a catastrophe (not intuitive).
For the super high price you charge for your product, if you expect a more professional website and if you don't have concrete information there, it leaves the product with low reliability, forcing "possible customers" to ask questions in forums like this, I think it's unlikely that you won't have money to pay a designer. But if you enjoy answering questions on forums, then keep doing what you're doing.
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Are you buying website design services or a rotation bot? Why don't you just enter their discord and find out the information you're looking for?
25 Euros per month is a super high price? Compared to what exactly?
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09/16/2022, 20:52
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Originally Posted by tamedbeast
Are you buying website design services or a rotation bot? Why don't you just enter their discord and find out the information you're looking for?
25 Euros per month is a super high price? Compared to what exactly?
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I speak based on its competitors that are much more complete and cheaper. GGloader charges for each additional spec, several reports here on the forum that GGloader charges 30 euros per installation, GGloader charges for classic or retail version, at the end of the day it's a fortune. GGloader's competitors do not make this differentiation.
To answer your question, paid for a complete product, not just any program, must be the reason why the competitors are much more successful than GGloader, they are not perfect, but they are better.
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