Sea and it's future

[Yo123]

Originally Posted by just2n

The GPL license clearly states that if you copy a GPL project then you redistribute your modified version as a binary WITHOUT RELEASING THE SOURCE, that you're in violation.

He copied sremu and then sold copies to people without giving the source code. We know this, so he's in clear violation of the GPL.

if he made another code that does simply the same as srvb did he still violate it?
but still can't we just end this discussion?

[cryorus]

Originally Posted by p1ter

omg so someone bought this ****? lolololo

Yes, people is retarded, they just see a lot of nice screenshots, a cool website and they go for it. Remember deepblue7? They were even worst, they copied/pasted SREmu and got loads of donations.

lol.

@Yo123, he didnt, that is the point. The discussion wont end till everyone realizes that they are stupid.

[marius1000]

i aggre 100% to what pax said....only ****** kids post that he is stupid that he wants money..he wants money cuz he did something...he wasted his free time to help u out and enjoying a sro emu with many functions...u are just too stupid and too greedy...not pax..u stupid kids who destroyed sro comunity with scams and all this ****...sro was nice 2-3 years agoo not now...now it sux....kids think they deserve fking everything without a bit of work...they dont even know how to wash the *** after they ****...and they are talking bad about someone else who waste his own time and uses his knowledge to create something..people dont show any fking respect..if i was pax i would have asked sponsor from the begining....anyway all the best..and kids please fking grow up and look at urself..u are ruining this nice game..it was a nice game some time ago..

[-Chernobyl]

Originally Posted by Yo123

SRVB was OS, but SSE aka SEA aka W/E is obviously not.
If he copied it , it was still turned to close source, since he was the only one to possess it.

WRONG! he was not the only one to possess this. DSREMU already had walking mobs in it as of the last revision. It was free to download and free to work on.
He may have made some minor improvements to the code but this was by far NOT the best emulator there is out there.

BTW his time, effort, blood, sweat and tears is worth $0 for developing whatever he did to this emulator. Emulator development is a hobby. Nobody expects to get paid doing their hobby. It doesn't matter if he spent 10 minutes or 2 years working on this, it still is worth $0. Pax is just like all of the other scumbags that used someone else's work to profit for himself by SELLING this incomplete emulator for 100% profit. It's too bad there were people gullible enough to waste their money on such an inferior product.

[cryorus]

@marius1000 you clearly dont know anything about anything, right? :P

[just3n]

Originally Posted by Yo123

if he made another code that does simply the same as srvb did he still violate it?
but still can't we just end this discussion?

No but he didn't make another project that just did the same thing. He used the existing projects.

Also, taking the source and changing it (like changing all variable names, restructuring, etc) is still considered a derivation.

Originally Posted by marius1000

i aggre 100% to what pax said....only retard kids post that he is stupid that he wants money..he wants money cuz he did something...he wasted his free time to help u out and enjoying a sro emu with many functions...u are just too stupid and too greedy...not pax..u stupid kids who destroyed sro comunity with scams and all this shit...sro was nice 2-3 years agoo not now...now it sux....kids think they deserve fking everything without a bit of work...they dont even know how to wash the ass after they shit...and they are talking bad about someone else who waste his own time and uses his knowledge to create something..people dont show any fking respect..if i was pax i would have asked sponsor from the begining....anyway all the best..and kids please fking grow up and look at urself..u are ruining this nice game..it was a nice game some time ago..

He is stupid and he wants money.

He is stupid:
He claims he's a C++ programmer. He takes a project in VB6 (a dead language, not even supported by the makers anymore) which is a horrible language and keeps writing for "5 years" in it. I asked over 200 C++ programmers if they'd use VB6 over C++ ever (the answer is no), and considering it'd only take a month or so to refactor SREMU/DSREMU into C++ from VB6, and he spent "5 years" working on it tells you he's full of shit. If he's a C++ programmer, he's a total moron. If he's not, he's a liar.

He wants money:
This is how you get SEA from him. Obviously he just wants money. If he wanted donations, he'd set up donations and make the emulator free to download. So you see.

The reason this community was good 3 years ago is because people like PAX didn't exist and the leechers weren't completely devolved into ape-like retards yet. Plus all the guys who were actively writing stuff were still around, and we didn't have idiots as admins around here abusing, and we had good mods who were well known in the community.

You seem to think PAX is in any way related to the success of anything; he's just like DB7, only working to the detriment of anyone but himself.

[Maciupka]

just56789n like "The Bold and the Beautiful"

[Yo123]

Originally Posted by just4n

He is stupid and he wants money.

He is stupid:
He claims he's a C++ programmer. He takes a project in VB6 (a dead language, not even supported by the makers anymore) which is a horrible language and keeps writing for "5 years" in it. I asked over 200 C++ programmers if they'd use VB6 over C++ ever, and considering it'd only take a month or so to refactor SREMU/DSREMU into C++ from VB6, and he spent "5 years" working on it tells you he's full of ****. If he's a C++ programmer, he's a total moron. If he's not, he's a liar.

He wants money:
This is how you get SEA from him. Obviously he just wants money. If he wanted donations, he'd set up donations and make the emulator free to download. So you see.

The reason this community was good 3 years ago is because people like PAX didn't exist and the leechers weren't completely devolved into ape-like retards yet. Plus all the guys who were actively writing stuff were still around, and we didn't have idiots as admins around here abusing, and we had good mods who were well known in the community.

You seem to think PAX is in any way related to the success of anything; he's just like DB7, only working to the detriment of anyone but himself.

He's related to his own success. And you don't need to inform me about weaknesses etc of different programming languages, i do know about them myself...
Why can't we just stop this discussion?There's no sense in going on

[just4n]

Originally Posted by Yo123

He's related to his own success. And you don't need to inform me about weaknesses etc of different programming languages, i do know about them myself...
Why can't we just stop this discussion?There's no sense in going on

That's one of the goals of the GPL -- to prevent people from taking other peoples' work and getting "well known" from it or being "successful" because they claim it's their own. This is the same reason plagiarism is in many cases illegal and highly frowned upon.

"His own success" is not his own success. By not upholding the GPL requirements he's making himself look worse because we don't know what he did and didn't add, everything that's in SEA has been made public, though.

[sargentgunner]

okay then, request close :P.
Ure a mod.

[lesderid]

Originally Posted by Yo123

He's related to his own success. And you don't need to inform me about weaknesses etc of different programming languages, i do know about them myself...

Hmmm... OK?

[Yo123]

Originally Posted by lesderid

Hmmm... OK?

what were you trying to say with that?:P

[popx]

My personal point of view about the sea futuer (no offence for any body )..

Pax

You have gained the community Respect by your silence at the time you have been insulted That was wise.

you did respond back with results not with talk fight.

but i wonder,

you did say this is the benefit of almost 3 years of work.

tragedy

is this is the way how it ends Or even brought Out is this way you offer as a Big marketing to introduce your Very Hard work, by only offer for this ammount ?

community relies at the reputation
what is the reputation Rank under many of

expensive , little , stolen ,Spam , agree , disagree . replies already posted around here and there.


those are some of the layer's classifications will talk about ..


Eh,,

those Bad thoughts generate negative reputation Feeling reduced by insult.attacking.accusation..ETC

can be avioded by a better plan you your m8ts (Team) can mange it but your side must start, Fix unstable matter's

by this way To divide the community into different layers.

Hard words , fact support thoes words,

banning members , many reported posts for insulting , enmies gained , other's shut down there own work to Learn or To fight Or support ,

sure Admin and Mods and Gards know every thing related to this situation better than we do cuz they watch & telescope Us , to have a judjment at the facts and build a point of view about other's intending to do in da future based On the View and many things not me and non can tell.

that's why the Community be thankful if Pax (owner) ,Admin ,Mods ,Gards shaer with the community there point of view

for me :-

i wish to see a full soft install Softwaer as a wizard this wizard add and patch the .OCX files copied and there places and Registry Line have been added or updated.

i wish any secret unwanted command remain Secret.

i wish each game progress like exchange be protected from insed Code i belive only way to back the stall network by not allowing any progress to be merge with other progress hope you got da point i belive this is how bug life be done corrupt an progress but here with Other progress special properties is corruptted with a progress from the server.


eh,

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There is No Room For accusing Based On conclusion

accusing Must Be With a Proof.

After all Now If Can Not Proof This have peace and Reopen your project

Seems you were Too close to achieve it all

Now you have seen other Ver. some how based on your way of thinking only step away from success

you know why you were on the way only need from you and who support you and your team to take All of this as an matter you did give it much more Value than it really appear you got disturbed , take it as a Miss understanding,

and have no fear and come again with confidence Steps.

don't late the atmosphere arround change the very Step to make your Full project.

After all this dose not mean that watching long Code i have a skill to make it short line and even to learn from it not a point at all to make accusation unless there is a proof talking about proof to cut the way you have your Right you will get it back.

you may take it as a Demo for what you can do,it was open source can any one read it then be motivated based on the way the code he have read,so
now you did see other's and how the community reacte for the interface and not much exe to be run and many services must be restarted or what ever may be all last words you already have taken in mined so no rush and come back,

i have a dummy thought,may be greedy persons that don like other sucess did find out that you are serious with your team and whom support you,they just simply released things to disturb the brain power's ( No offence for any one try understand the words from the good mirror )

this spoiler was inspirer and taken mostly from
discussion From Post Nom #45 ~ # 47 we should have peace by now..

,,,Never make enemy But make a competitor,,,

,,, Nice But We Can Do Better,,,

Cuz The legend elitepvpers Say

,,,-*Your Best Is Our Worst *-,,,,


,,,!!!SpammerS Keep It Away !!!,,,

[Epic_Rage]

There was absolutely no point in this thread from the start. Yo123, you knew quite well that this would just turn into a flame war, yet you posted it and left it open anyway, doesn't seem like the smartest thing for a mod to do imo.

[PortalDark]

Originally Posted by Epic_Rage

There was absolutely no point in this thread from the start. Yo123, you knew quite well that this would just turn into a flame war, yet you posted it and left it open anyway, doesn't seem like the smartest thing for a mod to do imo.

totally agree with you
all this is making everybody flames and get banned(in this case jMerlin)
#request 4 close