Sea and it's future

Windrius · 07/29/2010, 13:15

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Originally Posted by paxemuman

"there is no copyrights for those who not respect copyrights". Sremu database =unpacked pk2 files owner of those files are joymax company.Jmerlin trying to claim copyright to illegal software.Connect between client and joymax server are illegal (read joymax rules). So packet sniffing its illegal Jomax have that rule in rules.So all data in emulator are illegal.I dont claim copyrights to my software thats why i cant make anything with cracks .I can say only this is my private work and its not funny jmerlin sremu , thats all.

Please explain the jangannpc and alot more which uses those hex strings from d-sremu. I mean, you wont find that @ pk2

Shadowz75 · 07/29/2010, 14:12

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Originally Posted by paxemuman

"there is no copyrights for those who not respect copyrights". Sremu database =unpacked pk2 files owner of those files are joymax company.Jmerlin trying to claim copyright to illegal software.Connect between client and joymax server are illegal (read joymax rules). So packet sniffing its illegal Jomax have that rule in rules.So all data in emulator are illegal.I dont claim copyrights to my software thats why i cant make anything with cracks .I can say only this is my private work and its not funny jmerlin sremu , thats all.

each post make you look more stupid

~~sweeed01~~ · 07/29/2010, 14:48

a q guys, if he stole everything from dsremu, then why dsremu isnt as pro as sea is?

Windrius · 07/29/2010, 14:55

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Originally Posted by sweeed01

a q guys, if he stole everything from dsremu, then why dsremu isnt as pro as sea is?

Please show me where anyone has used the word "everything"?

~~sweeed01~~ · 07/29/2010, 15:09

all u guys re sayin he didnt do **** just stole d-sremu's ****

TheOxide · 07/29/2010, 15:15

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Originally Posted by sweeed01

a q guys, if he stole everything from dsremu, then why dsremu isnt as pro as sea is?

Sk8orDi3 · 07/29/2010, 16:26

am I the only one who wants this thread to be closed?
It's like fighting with your girlfriend and start SEVERAL threads on a forum.

I think this thread was just to see jMerlin and PAX and a bunch of trolls fighting each other.

#request close

~~just2n~~ · 07/29/2010, 16:45

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Originally Posted by paxemuman

"there is no copyrights for those who not respect copyrights". Sremu database =unpacked pk2 files owner of those files are joymax company.Jmerlin trying to claim copyright to illegal software.Connect between client and joymax server are illegal (read joymax rules). So packet sniffing its illegal Jomax have that rule in rules.So all data in emulator are illegal.I dont claim copyrights to my software thats why i cant make anything with cracks .I can say only this is my private work and its not funny jmerlin sremu , thats all.

The data in those text files would not fall under copyright law. Unpacking a PK2 also does not violate copyright law. That was not even reversed at first (Drew's first extraction tool used their gfx dll to dump the PK2), and even so, was done for interoperability which is an exception to the DMCA (yes, the DMCA is the only thing that might apply in this case, not copyright law). Neither I nor none of the previous developers have placed a copyright on any data retrieved from the PK2 files, only on the code. At best, this stuff could loosely be under trademark, but nothing in them is trademarked so that's a non-issue.

Also, those "rules" from Joymax are TOS/EULA. Sure, capturing packets and reversing them probably violates their TOS just like it does with any game. This is NOT ILLEGAL. It means Joymax then has the right to ban any and all of my accounts (which they haven't done, btw, not a single one). Traditionally and for a long time consistent with copyright law, purchase (even if cost = 0) of software transferred ownership of a legitimate copy to the customer, and permitted them to be shielded from copyright violation lawsuits by violating TOS/EULA and made it legal to use the software anyway you want (except in the case of the DMCA in the USA). Blizzard's recent lawsuit against MDY move to change this by claiming you don't own a copy of their software -- something that would violate a rather large number of consumer rights and give Blizzard license to sue anyone over just about anything, even if it didn't necessarily relate to actual copyright violation. The EFF is working on this case and is appealing the original (flawed) decision:

. Previous legislation has been in favor of the person reverse engineering the software etc, on grounds of interoperability. That's what ours is, we have a server, we need it to be able to communicate with the client, and so we need the data in those files to make that happen. We're not doing an end-run around any copyright protection scheme with this, just making communication possible.

You don't know what you're talking about, though. You violated the GPL, you have no argument.

Lupin* · 07/29/2010, 17:54

The Lyzerk Project that he is selling is more better then SEA no? why not donate for Lyzerk files then i dont get?

~~sallicho~~ · 07/29/2010, 18:42

I agree. Im ready to pay 5~10Euros/Month

cryorus · 07/29/2010, 18:44

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Originally Posted by Yo123

I know there were lots of good developers that contributed to the projects open source and freely, without asking for something. And those people should be honoured imho.

You dont know there were lots of good developers, thats why you said that pax was the first one to "x" and "y".

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Originally Posted by Yo123

But still he did work on it and even tho his work got cracked he's staying polite, so I just think a little respect and reacting polite as well would be the right way to follow.

Thats cool, if he didnt break GPL licenses.

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Originally Posted by Yo123

Btw he even wanted to make this an open source project, but since he only had 14 posts in here, he got pruned by everbody...just as a little annotation.

The project IS opensource, as it is under SREmu GPL license, but he didnt release source, different stuff bro.

Yo123 · 07/29/2010, 18:58

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Originally Posted by cryorus

You dont know there were lots of good developers, thats why you said that pax was the first one to "x" and "y".

I just said that he was releasing this stuff, and I know there were good developers, cause i followed the project. I think we should just end the discussion.

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Originally Posted by cryorus

The project IS opensource, as it is under SREmu GPL license, but he didnt release source, different stuff bro.

SRVB was OS, but SSE aka SEA aka W/E is obviously not.
If he copied it , it was still turned to close source, since he was the only one to possess it.

cryorus · 07/29/2010, 19:04

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Originally Posted by Yo123

I just said that he was releasing this stuff, and I know there were good developers, cause i followed the project. I think we should just end the discussion.

SRVB was OS, but SSE aka SEA aka W/E is obviously not.
If he copied it , it was still turned to close source, since he was the only one to possess it.

Mods dont know about GPL, cool.

~~just2n~~ · 07/29/2010, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Yo123

SRVB was OS, but SSE aka SEA aka W/E is obviously not.
If he copied it , it was still turned to close source, since he was the only one to possess it.

The GPL license clearly states that if you copy a GPL project then you redistribute your modified version as a binary WITHOUT RELEASING THE SOURCE, that you're in violation.

He copied sremu and then sold copies to people without giving the source code. We know this, so he's in clear violation of the GPL.

p1ter · 07/29/2010, 19:13

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Originally Posted by just2n

He copied sremu and then sold copies to people without giving the source code. We know this, so he's in clear violation of the GPL.

omg so someone bought this ****? lolololo