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Wish for making "The better" kind of server

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Old 05/16/2010, 21:47   #31
 
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they're prolly going to share them around December 2012 xD

hmm, we can notice a lot of effort in this project, so, it might suceed , who knows? Good Luck for it ^^
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Old 05/16/2010, 22:03   #32
 
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only negative people will say "you will fail" from the beginning without even give a chance to it,Id say if you have enough people with knowledge and brain in the team, this project can sucess and finally will be an good emulator.

when noobs saying "you will fail" from the beginning I think it's just down from your desire to make this project instead of supporting it.

You says so why did you say that sea will fail ?
You dont know what do you say -.-
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Old 05/16/2010, 22:17   #33
 
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Good luck guys. I hope it works But it looks you need somebody experienced on it.
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Old 05/16/2010, 22:39   #34
 
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tell that to ZSZC owner, SWSRO owner, SJSRO owner, MYSRO owner.
the answer probably will be : Pay 50,000$ then we will start to talk about it

and if in this 3~4 years of PSERVERS server files didnt released to public then I guess you will have to wait more few years

It's just all about MONEY MONEY MONEY, they have no reason to share it.
MONEY! its the need for greed that made this most epic game such a sinfull waste of time so this is also an oportunity to point out it should be really "free to the public" OpenSource yea baby yeah! ;,)

As Linus once said
"Software is like ***, its better when it's free"

ps @ moderators: if i should not use the word *** here just replace with some *** ;D
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Old 05/16/2010, 22:47   #35
 
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You says so why did you say that sea will fail ?
You dont know what do you say -.-
Because Ive seen the guy who is "building" the emulator, it's Paxtard.
I said it's fail after only I knew about him and what hes doing.
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Old 05/16/2010, 22:54   #36
 
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The thing i really dont get in this thread is..

Why would you start a project if you know jack-all about java programming in the first place?

I know you are trying to help out by starting a project up but, if the leader of the group is extremely inexperienced, do you REALLY think that such a big project like this will actually get anywhere, let alone succeed?
I understand your sceptical point of view here
My contribution only would go as far as sniffing packets and helping with building a database.
Fact is too that im just really trying to get "the right people" togheter.
And dont think i dont question myself, if you dont do that that's just wrong.
If someone else comes up with more courage+knowledge and a better team they get my mental support and they can either work standalone or even merge with "us" if the mindset is the same.
I'm very aware that this project wont be easy at all. I know an expert senior programmer who already pointed out that reverse engineering is possible but hard and even harder for games.



So far thanks for everyone already giving positive support to this early stage project.

My main motivation of starting this "let's do it as we" project is mainly because i really love this game more than any other i have ever played in my entire life. Addictive and worth "saving" game on its own
I am fed up with al the bucks beeing literally beaten out of it. Look at currect state of original SRO. Dont we want the new content mixed with the old fun from beta? .... i think so that we all do
Only ones who will not understand this are people wo where just new and starting botting already or bought their char

but i wont flame the Brutaly Old Terror off bot road we all know at a certain point we can make 700 threads about this. lets make this thing better than original thats all
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useless thread, theres a java project, and you will find why java is going to be a real challenge to make an emu
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Old 05/16/2010, 23:05   #38
 
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useless thread, theres a java project, and you will find why java is going to be a real challenge to make an emu
Please i am aware this is no everyday "piece of cake" but dont be so down about it

We need the right collective of "brainpower" , we are just making the bleuprints now

"Every path to succes starts with building stone by stone the road towards it"

and yes i come up with that **** myself

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Old 05/16/2010, 23:22   #39
 
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Teach me packet sniffing/parsing.
Im gonna sniff for the community all days all packets lol.
serious.
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Old 05/17/2010, 01:42   #40
 
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Teach me packet sniffing/parsing.
Im gonna sniff for the community all days all packets lol.
serious.
i am up for that too if i only know how to sniff i will help and who knows maybe from snifing i can get even to do better things :P

and btw I wish u good luck
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-Database
-security
-reverse engineering packets
-and prolly some other stuff that im forgeting

^.^ I am all of the above. Least experience in the reverse engineering.

But I don't see whats so good about java? Other games have been writtin in C# & C++. And some have also been in Java ^.^
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Old 05/17/2010, 07:49   #42
 
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-Database
-security
-reverse engineering packets
-and prolly some other stuff that im forgeting

^.^ I am all of the above. Least experience in the reverse engineering.

But I don't see whats so good about java? Other games have been writtin in C# & C++. And some have also been in Java ^.^
Hi and welcome ^^

You have been added to a list with people who can contribute
thanks for your application. As soon as some more people join in
we'll get started (planning to start if we have somewhere around 7-10 people, we all have things to do and spreading the workload ensures this project will get somewhere)
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Old 05/17/2010, 07:52   #43
 
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Good luck guys. I hope it works But it looks you need somebody experienced on it.
True ! so if you know a senior developer that qualifies for this please let him know about this
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Old 05/17/2010, 08:48   #44
 
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From my experience at e*pvp, I know that all the threads that begin with someone saying "hey, let's make a server in [INSERT PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE]" or "yay, i made a server base, it's open source and i'm working on it!"

So, I was skipping all the posts and I found spam about ZSZC, SWSRO, ...

This community doesn't work for developing emulators.

You can see that (almost) all emulators failed. The only emus that are still alive are Lyzerk's emu, eSRO, CSREMU and SREMU (C++).

Lyzerk's emu, eSRO and SREMU (C++) started closed source and now CSREMU is also closed source.

I don't see people spamming about those servers a lot, they made a lot of progress tho.

Conclusion: This thread will fail (99% sure), it's not the fault of TS, it's the fault of the community: noobs (including leechers) and spammers.

I will give a random member of this team $10.000 if this emu is still alive in two months.

(I'm not really going to do that, just saying that because I am sure that it will fail)
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From my experience at e*pvp, I know that all the threads that begin with someone saying "hey, let's make a server in [INSERT PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE]" or "yay, i made a server base, it's open source and i'm working on it!"

So, I was skipping all the posts and I found spam about ZSZC, SWSRO, ...

This community doesn't work for developing emulators.

You can see that (almost) all emulators failed. The only emus that are still alive are Lyzerk's emu, eSRO, CSREMU and SREMU (C++).

Lyzerk's emu, eSRO and SREMU (C++) started closed source and now CSREMU is also closed source.

I don't see people spamming about those servers a lot, they made a lot of progress tho.

Conclusion: This thread will fail (99% sure), it's not the fault of TS, it's the fault of the community: noobs (including leechers) and spammers.

I will give a random member of this team $10.000 if this emu is still alive in two months.

(I'm not really going to do that, just saying that because I am sure that it will fail)
Well thanks for your concern.
I did some more research on the emulators you where talking about, most of them i already followed up. Now i have nothing against a project in C++ .. but VB ?
Either C++ or java, an "oo" language is suitable for the job in my honest opinion.

Now i would like to point out why we need this project to become something real.

-currect emulators "seem" to be more like an I wanna do it without too much help
-its like its a vague dream for years now
-i do not see how you can configure it currently (finetune) to suit your needs.
-there seems to be too lil consistency to rely on, i mean we need to have a server a database and a configuration option

The point is, how well is all this currently available stuff suited to set up a real server without legal isseus.

To the people already working on projects! Bravo, very brave. But can't there be more consistency? make a bigger team? Personally i have too little info to really say something about it so i wont flame but from what ive seen and read and tested i cannot really make sense how it would be easy and available to a broader public, basically because its not finished.. i understand that

Im just starting to doubt after some years... what will become of all of this, i wanna play before i die not in some reincarnation

Maybe i am totally wrong here but than again, there is some lack of information flow about silkroad emulation in general and im not talking about elitepvpers but in general

Current status:
2 programmers have joined
2 Eager to learn fellas want to help with other tasks that come with it.

next i will make a list of things i wish to make configurable to show that this project would really add something of value

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