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07/18/2017, 01:36
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no CAP !
any1 know a server with D15 with no max lvl ??
07/18/2017, 04:34
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no max level? O.o
07/18/2017, 20:06
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There will be a cap, always.
07/18/2017, 21:20
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There will be a cap, always.
Weeeeelllllll........
Technically speaking... you CAN do an "unlimited" cap.
07/18/2017, 21:36
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Weeeeelllllll........
Technically speaking... you CAN do an "unlimited" cap.
Reborn doesn't give you unlimited
ongoing levels, if you mean that! :P
07/18/2017, 21:48
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Reborn doesn't give you unlimited ongoing levels, if you mean that! :P
Nah not reborn. I'm talking about ongoing leveling.
I don't see a reason why you couldn't have that.
07/18/2017, 22:22
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Nah not reborn. I'm talking about ongoing leveling.
I don't see a reason why you couldn't have that.
Data type. INT is limited. :P
07/18/2017, 22:25
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Data type. INT is limited. :P
Easily fixable with a filter.
07/18/2017, 23:00
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How are you supposed to fix this with a filter, the largest 64 bit INT has a capacity of 18,446,744,073,709,551,615, which is still capped :P
07/19/2017, 00:15
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How are you supposed to fix this with a filter, the largest 64 bit INT has a capacity of 18,446,744,073,709,551,615, which is still capped :P
Ok. In that sense yes it's capped, but who the **** is gonna reach Level 18,446,744,073,709,551,615? xD
Or just do some ASM to the gameserver and change datatype to a bigint
07/19/2017, 00:53
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Or just do some ASM to the gameserver and change datatype to a bigint
Lets hope its as easy as that ...
I don't think the actual level datatype is a problem. The exp is the bigger problem and afair it is already a 64bit "long long".
Silkroads Exp Calculation has a gain factor of roughly 1.10 per level.
Level Exp needed Gain Will crash the game 1 118 no 2 470 3.98305084745763 no 3 1058 2.25106382978723 no 4 1880 1.77693761814745 no 5 2938 1.56276595744681 no 6 5640 1.91967324710688 no 7 9048 1.60425531914894 no 8 13160 1.45446507515473 no 9 17978 1.3661094224924 no 10 23500 1.30715318722884 no 11 34898 1.48502127659574 no 12 47940 1.37371769155826 no 13 62628 1.3063829787234 no 14 78960 1.2607779268059 no 15 96938 1.22768490374873 no 16 127840 1.3187810765644 no 17 161798 1.26562891113892 no 18 198810 1.22875437273638 no 19 238878 1.20153915799004 no 20 282000 1.18051892597895 no 21 351231 1.2455 no 22 427755 1.2178737070475 no 23 512196 1.19740505663289 no 24 605232 1.18164140290045 no 25 707587 1.1691169667169 no 26 820046 1.15893310645899 no 27 943453 1.1504878994593 no 28 1078717 1.14337121192047 no 29 1226815 1.13729087425154 no 30 1388803 1.13203946805346 no 31 1595229 1.14863591164478 no 32 1818827 1.14016670960721 no 33 2060796 1.13303574226686 no 34 2322414 1.12694997466998 no 35 2605043 1.12169621781474 no 36 2910129 1.11711361386357 no 37 3239210 1.11308124141576 no 38 3593924 1.10950633024719 no 39 3976012 1.10631499163588 no 40 4387323 1.10344812842617 no 41 4869381 1.10987520180301 no 42 5382982 1.1054756241091 no 43 5929882 1.10159796187318 no 44 6511920 1.09815338652607 no 45 7131034 1.09507395668251 no 46 7789258 1.09230414551382 no 47 8488730 1.0897995675583 no 48 9231697 1.08752392878558 no 49 10020519 1.08544712851819 no 50 10857676 1.0835442755011 no 51 11857343 1.0920700709802 no 52 12913686 1.08908766491785 no 53 14029449 1.08640158975524 no 54 15207495 1.08396951298658 no 55 16450818 1.081757251934 no 56 17762545 1.07973627815954 no 57 19145941 1.07788275835473 no 58 20604414 1.07617661623422 no 59 22141527 1.07460115099609 no 60 23760997 1.07314174853433 no 61 25933410 1.09142768714629 no 62 28214785 1.08797049828773 no 63 30609702 1.08488163209466 no 64 33122920 1.08210527498765 no 65 35759381 1.07959627351695 no 66 38524220 1.07731786520578 no 67 41422764 1.0752395246419 no 68 44460552 1.07333619745896 no 69 47643326 1.07158647063131 no 70 50977052 1.06997257076469 no 71 55379353 1.0863584853828 no 72 59999913 1.08343470534948 no 73 64847867 1.08079935049239 no 74 69932694 1.07841163071717 no 75 75264247 1.07623834711702 no 76 80852759 1.07425188217189 no 77 86708845 1.07242901877968 no 78 92843524 1.07075032541375 no 79 99268250 1.06919950604202 no 80 105994900 1.06776235100347 no 81 114420455 1.07949019245266 no 82 123256157 1.07722134997628 no 83 132519021 1.07515132895146 no 84 142226718 1.0732551216176 no 85 152397611 1.07151183085023 no 86 163050762 1.06990366141632 no 87 174205942 1.06841538097197 no 88 185883693 1.06703417154393 no 89 198105323 1.0657488013217 no 90 210892947 1.0645496234344 no 91 231426695 1.0973657407329 no 92 253002666 1.09323026023424 no 93 275664911 1.08957314702763 no 94 299459191 1.0863159548079 no 95 324433021 1.08339643848166 no 96 350635760 1.08076471044543 no 97 378118677 1.07838024564294 no 98 406935015 1.07620977156862 no 99 437140026 1.07422563772252 no 100 468791082 1.07240484539844 no 101 516375726 1.10150501113842 no 102 566393519 1.09686317632986 no 103 618947669 1.0927873434936 no 104 674145286 1.08917978007604 no 105 732097684 1.08596425607877 no 106 792920527 1.08308022867615 no 107 856733846 1.08047883341025 no 108 923662305 1.07812047967112 no 109 993835433 1.07597270952829 no 110 1067387633 1.07400842992484 no 111 1170311818 1.0964262483637 no 112 1278450788 1.09240184396737 no 113 1392024800 1.08883721850387 no 114 1511262692 1.08565787908376 no 115 1636401960 1.08280444469544 no 116 1812645962 1.10770214550464 no 117 1997991918 1.10225160339391 no 118 2192827169 1.09751553509537 no 119 2397554347 1.09336220423307 no 120 2612591504 1.08969021172307 no 121 2925234867 1.11966790924694 no 122 3254285517 1.11248691642236 no 123 3600446449 1.10637079327911 no 124 3964448062 1.10109902151193 no 125 4347049512 1.09650812522109 no 126 4749038845 1.09247406358964 no 127 5171235252 1.08890144317192 no 128 5614489219 1.08571529729354 no 129 6079684537 1.08285621360279 no 130 6567738350 1.08027617387543 no 131 7546542292 1.14903211575108 no 132 8578163585 1.13670118752182 no 133 9664890094 1.12668521627406 no 134 10809099838 1.11838828304011 no 135 12013263373 1.11140275814335 no 136 15986496694 1.33073721915811 no 137 20187312636 1.26277276519105 no 138 24625790163 1.21986470448201 no 139 29312408088 1.19031340289911 no 140 34258059409 1.1687221092908 no 141 40038151453 1.1 no 142 44041966598 1.1 no 143 48446163258 1.1 no 144 53290779584 1.1 no 145 58619857542 1.1 no 146 64481843296 1.1 no 147 70930027626 1.1 no 148 78023030388 1.1 no 149 85825333427 1.1 no 150 94407866770 1.1 no 151 103848653447 1.1 no 152 114233518791 1.1 no 153 125656870671 1.1 no 154 138222557738 1.1 no 155 152044813511 1.1 no 156 167249294863 1.1 no 157 183974224349 1.1 no 158 202371646784 1.1 no 159 222608811462 1.1 no 160 244869692608 1.1 no 161 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no 309 360118244703129000 1.1 no 310 396130069173442000 1.1 no 311 435743076090786000 1.1 no 312 479317383699864000 1.1 no 313 527249122069851000 1.1 no 314 579974034276836000 1.1 no 315 637971437704519000 1.1 no 316 701768581474971000 1.1 no 317 771945439622468000 1.1 no 318 849139983584715000 1.1 no 319 934053981943186000 1.1 no 320 1027459380137500000 1.1 no 321 1130205318151250000 1.1 no 322 1243225849966380000 1.1 no 323 1367548434963020000 1.1 no 324 1504303278459320000 1.1 no 325 1654733606305250000 1.1 no 326 1820206966935780000 1.1 no 327 2002227663629350000 1.1 no 328 2202450429992290000 1.1 no 329 2422695472991520000 1.1 no 330 2664965020290670000 1.1 no 331 2931461522319730000 1.1 no 332 3224607674551710000 1.1 no 333 3547068442006880000 1.1 no 334 3901775286207560000 1.1 no 335 4291952814828320000 1.1 no 336 4721148096311150000 1.1 no 337 5193262905942270000 1.1 no 338 5712589196536490000 1.1 no 339 6283848116190140000 1.1 no 340 6912232927809150000 1.1 no 341 7603456220590070000 1.1 no 342 8363801842649070000 1.1 no 343 9200182026913980000 1.1 no 344 10120200229605400000 1.1 no 345 11132220252565900000 1.1 no 346 12245442277822500000 1.1 no 347 13469986505604800000 1.1 no 348 14816985156165200000 1.1 no 349 16298683671781700000 1.1 no 350 17928552038959900000 1.1 no 351 19721407242855900000 1.1 yes 352 21693547967141500000 1.1 yes 353 23862902763855600000 1.1 yes 354 26249193040241200000 1.1 yes 355 28874112344265300000 1.1 yes 356 31761523578691800000 1.1 yes 357 34937675936561000000 1.1 yes 358 38431443530217100000 1.1 yes 359 42274587883238800000 1.1 yes 360 46502046671562700000 1.1 yes 361 51152251338719000000 1.1 yes 362 56267476472590900000 1.1 yes 363 61894224119850000000 1.1 yes 364 68083646531834900000 1.1 yes 365 74892011185018400000 1.1 yes 366 82381212303520300000 1.1 yes 367 90619333533872300000 1.1 yes 368 99681266887259500000 1.1 yes 369 109649393575985000000 1.1 yes 370 120614332933584000000 1.1 yes 371 132675766226942000000 1.1 yes 372 145943342849637000000 1.1 yes 373 160537677134600000000 1.1 yes 374 176591444848060000000 1.1 yes 375 194250589332866000000 1.1 yes 376 213675648266153000000 1.1 yes 377 235043213092768000000 1.1 yes 378 258547534402045000000 1.1 yes 379 284402287842249000000 1.1 yes 380 312842516626474000000 1.1 yes 381 344126768289121000000 1.1 yes 382 378539445118034000000 1.1 yes 383 416393389629837000000 1.1 yes 384 458032728592821000000 1.1 yes 385 503836001452103000000 1.1 yes 386 554219601597313000000 1.1 yes 387 609641561757044000000 1.1 yes 388 670605717932748000000 1.1 yes 389 737666289726023000000 1.1 yes 390 811432918698625000000 1.1 yes 391 892576210568488000000 1.1 yes 392 981833831625336000000 1.1 yes 393 1080017214787870000000 1.1 yes 394 1188018936266660000000 1.1 yes 395 1306820829893320000000 1.1 yes 396 1437502912882650000000 1.1 yes 397 1581253204170920000000 1.1 yes 398 1739378524588010000000 1.1 yes 399 1913316377046810000000 1.1 yes 400 2104648014751490000000 1.1 yes
So if we keep the rate Joymax intended, we crash the game, datatype-wise, at approx 351. We might even crash it earlier because some internal calculations might already exceed the maxvalue. Considering someone reaching level 351 with this required exp is ... lol.
I'm not sure what influence the level has on other things. Maybe some exp-gain calculation formular goes nuts if the level exceeds a certain value. You should also keep in mind that floating-point operations have a maximum precision that also might mess up if values get too big.
07/19/2017, 01:21
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^ well we can always just have it be the same EXP before the point where it starts crashing. So I guess all exp required after 140 for example can be the same.
And yes I'm sure it's not as easy as simply saying it... that's why I'm suggesting filter... or a separate entity that intercepts the lvling packets alone... keeps a database of it's own for lvls and characters.. and sends fake packets back and forth. But idk, I'm talking out of my ***. Maybe the client can't handle that either.
Too much work I guess now that I think about it.
On-topic: No there are no servers out there like that xD
07/19/2017, 11:44
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There are no servers with "infinite cap".
07/19/2017, 13:54
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There are no servers with "infinite cap".
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07/22/2017, 13:10
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Would be cool with a server with no cap , something like tiba xD
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