If you have the opportunity to pick a server.

[Syloxx]

Good job then... just wonder then why u didn't wrote a own packer to protect your software

[LastThief*]

ya sure, because you can write a packer that will do the same job as the ones which cost 500$ seems legit.

And it's not about packing anyway, it's about virtualizing, do not tell me you can write your own virtualizer lol

[Kai·]

Originally Posted by Syloxx

Good job then... just wonder then why u didn't wrote a own packer to protect your software

Sorry but he is right it's hard to build a virtualizer ( or maybe impossible ) .. np if you admit other's job success, he made a good work and that's something should be said
Just don't resist for no reason

[Timlock]

Do you know what makes good developer?
A person who develops new things, rather then bragging about developing on a pointless forum.
Someone who brings something usable to the scene for EVERYONE, not just themselves.

There are only a handful of names who really "developed" the sro private server scene for everyone, and not just themselves.

Sorry Syloxx, that doesnt include you. however, if you are really as "good" as you say you are, you should humble up.

[Syloxx]

Originally Posted by Parx*

Sorry but he is right it's hard to build a virtualizer ( or maybe impossible ) .. np if you admit other's job success, he made a good work and that's something should be said
Just don't resist for no reason

Fact is that he just take other People works and claim it as his work

Just like every 0815 arab (that he is)

Originally Posted by Timlock

Do you know what makes good developer?
A person who develops new things, rather then bragging about developing on a pointless forum.
Someone who brings something usable to the scene for EVERYONE, not just themselves.

There are only a handful of names who really "developed" the sro private server scene for everyone, and not just themselves.

Sorry Syloxx, that doesnt include you. however, if you are really as "good" as you say you are, you should humble up.

Thats totally wrong

No share = no dev seriously?

[Timlock]

There is a difference between sharing and contributing.

No offence to LastThief, but I wouldnt consider him a contributor either. He is an excellent programmer but mostly keeps to his own projects.

Syloxx, You may have come a long way in learning SQL but that does not make you a developer or contributor and your attitude towords yourself and others absolutely does not make you professional.

I have contributed more then both of you with sroconnect alone but I want nothing to do with this silly list.

Out of your suggestions I would agree with Kokspflanze, but thats it. Simply because his cms and template is so widely used by servers. Cherno was mentioned as well and I agree, despite being difficult to work with.

[LastThief*]

Originally Posted by Syloxx

Fact is that he just take other People works and claim it as his work

Just like every 0815 arab (that he is)



Thats totally wrong

No share = no dev seriously?

I never took anyone's work and claimed it's mine, you are just proving you are dumbfuck over and over lol

EDIT : Why do you think calling me "arab" will get me mad ? I never denied my Egyptian origins, please **** off already.

[Syloxx]

Originally Posted by Timlock

There is a difference between sharing and contributing.

No offence to LastThief, but I wouldnt consider him a contributor either. He is an excellent programmer but mostly keeps to his own projects.

Syloxx, You may have come a long way in learning SQL but that does not make you a developer or contributor and your attitude towords yourself and others absolutely does not make you professional.

I have contributed more then both of you with sroconnect alone but I want nothing to do with this silly list.

Out of your suggestions I would agree with Kokspflanze, but thats it. Simply because his cms and template is so widely used by servers. Cherno was mentioned as well and I agree, despite being difficult to work with.

Well, the question is how contibuting is defined

If I start a server without much and nice features but nice advertisement so I get like 1000 players

Is this a contribute?

Or if I help servers they don't have that good developers to improve the quality of the server... Is this a contribute

Both actually keeps players busy and the adv. quality of sro servers rises

[Yo123]

Wow you guys are hilarious.
Well i guess its time to say a few things.
a) - good developer -
you cant easily judge by the programming language somebody is using, ofc you have most freedom with C/C++/ASM, but ever tried to program something bigger in ASM? its hella work. the way you would usually go is to just to code your regular c/c++ and try to find a few tweaks for asm optimization, although you'd rarely find one, as nowadays compilers do a frigging good joob. something university taught me ( i find myself holding a b.sc. in biochem and one in computer science ) is that its not necessarily about the language you use, but your creativity of developing algorithms. porting them is actually easy. performancewise it doesnt matter in this particular subject, we are not doing some super steezy algorithms to calculate how molecules connect or proteins fold ( i've done work in that field, trust me its hard), where we need tons of computing power. despite this, i suck at networking stuff. i can do the basic stuff but i wouldnt want to do much more. (i even made a sro bot once, but dude what's that all about?) well im starting to drift into OT... to keep it short: development is a wide field, you shouldnt judge about somebodys qualities by gamerelated developing like silkroad.

b) - advancing sro files / protecting your stuff -
Well... Writing a good packer, code virtualizer, obfuscater, w/e is plenty of work and pretty much the job of 2 people. A mathematician for the algorithmic part and a programmer to realize it.(much simplified) you can't just easily protect your stuff. there's always a way, i wont go much into detail right now, but if you have questions, ill try to answer them as far as i can.
advancing sro files isnt that hard, as most parts are not hardcoded and those things that are, can be altered quite easily in most cases (like levelcap) and even the navmesh stuff isnt implemented that difficult ( in comparison to how other games handle it), but you cant just easily fix known bugs just by asm changes, most stuff would require us to obtain source codes and recompile with fitting edits.
if you really want to provide new content to the game, the way to go, would be to write an emulated server from scratch and implement a few ways to make sure things go the way you wish ( for example having your own loader that verifies with your serverlar and inject a dll (which needs to be protected as well all over) into the sro.exe to handle some verifying tasks while you play, so things happen your way.
best example is the dupe bug with SN, did you fix that? if you did, please tell me how, much curious such wow.

man i suck at writing. i'm really losing my central theme over and over.
just hoping you get what i'm saying. there's some stuff you can do with srvlar files, but not quite much in comparison with what you could do with an emulator and own stuff.
and being a good developer doesnt mean to be hyper hyper in c(w or w/o ++), or being able to do everything super duper cool, it just means you have a field, where you excell.
protection is hard to achieve, dont underestimate it.
coding language doesnt matter for something like sro , or sro server emulation, we dont need perfect performance, neither do we need to have kernel access for what we are doing.

well just fuck it.
anybody brazzers prem?



oh and completely on topic:

cap 10, i never got beyond those creepy turtles, northside of jangan.

[Spidy.]

Originally Posted by Yo123

oh and completely on topic:

cap 10, i never got beyond those creepy turtles, northside of jangan.

You missed the fun, few years ago someone created a low cap server (30) it was hilarious.
Honestly (personal opinion) I would love to play on a low cap server just for fun.

[Yo123]

Originally Posted by Spidy.

You missed the fun, few years ago someone created a low cap server (30) it was hilarious.
Honestly (personal opinion) I would love to play on a low cap server just for fun.

wow, once i decide to make a basically serious post, you just take the troll part out and take the rest for granted. qq

[Timlock]

Originally Posted by Yo123

wow, once i decide to make a basically serious post, you just take the troll part out and take the rest for granted. qq

I appreciated your post.

[blapanda]

Originally Posted by Spidy.

You missed the fun, few years ago someone created a low cap server (30) it was hilarious.
Honestly (personal opinion) I would love to play on a low cap server just for fun.

And guess how many people were involved to that project:

[Fury.]

Originally Posted by ​Exo

I have a few concerns tho about the "ONE OF THE BEST VSRO DEVELOPERS CERTIFIED KRAL BOY"

Here tho, I spotted some lies in a post you've made before xD


yeh and I'd pick a D9 sv ^^

this community just cant stop being dickheads i bet u're 16 or smth or had tough childhood didn't you ?

Originally Posted by Syloxx

TBH i doubt that.

considerable Developers:
-Mixizi (my Friend and the best website developer in the SRO Community)
-Syloxx
-Akasch (i don't know his current Knowledge because we haven't much Contact anymore PS: Wenn du das liest meld dich mal bei Skype da ich ja jetzt Täglich in Bonn bin können wir uns ja treffen chill zur Zeit wenn gutes Wetter ist mit paar weibern im Hofgarten. Aber so richtig geile weiber gibt es in Bonn auch net wa?!?)
-Kokspflanze (well hes ok but conpared to Mixizi... meh)
-Exo (i think he develop some Stuff but idk his Knowledge but hes an arab so )

actually no body cares ok ? also this isn't related to the thread

"my friend" are u really showing off being a friend with " considerable developeres " ?

still , nobody cares buddy

[Xutan*]

Originally Posted by Syloxx

Good job then... just wonder then why u didn't wrote a own packer to protect your software

You cried to WeeMan to code a packetfilter in c++ for you to make money from instead of coding it yourself.