Revival of the SRO Underground section

[sinxtra]

Originally Posted by @$$

maybe if you make the Leader of SUG Money per month you will find alot of devs over here
(my opinon)

Whose going to pay? Epvp? Oh cmon.

[skinner✔]

glad to see that you people are still trying to revive the community , sadly the majority voted already, silkroad is dead as ****, even joymax did by moving their servers to korea.

[Eckoro]

If people have any packet projects / need help parsing I would be happy to participate there if the section goes up, something I do want to sort at some point. Although I doubt this section will really lift off as there is little 'developing' going on now, when I have seen the word 'developing' thrown round recently it just seems to be database populating.

[LastThief*]

Originally Posted by Eckoro

If people have any packet projects / need help parsing I would be happy to participate there if the section goes up, something I do want to sort at some point. Although I doubt this section will really lift off as there is little 'developing' going on now, when I have seen the word 'developing' thrown round recently it just seems to be database populating.

Look who is back

[Callum]

Originally Posted by Eckoro

If people have any packet projects / need help parsing I would be happy to participate there if the section goes up, something I do want to sort at some point. Although I doubt this section will really lift off as there is little 'developing' going on now, when I have seen the word 'developing' thrown round recently it just seems to be database populating.

Give me a pm or Skype me and we will work something out .

[Elegance account shop]

Just make a private skype group of people that do this actively , no idea why'd you do it here , with a huge amount of random's and no-names. *flies away*

[sor007]

ahmed4ever2u

[Herokan*]

+1 LastThief

[Royalblade*]

#EgoModeActivated
+1 for myself.

haha just kidding. LastThief would be perfect for the job. He already has access to the underground section, so I there shouldn't be an issue to see if he's "good enough" or not.

And he's one of the few people I don't have. So thats awesome!

As for the co-leader or something, I'd suggest Mohammed.. don't know the elitepvpers name, its something like Magicanoo i think. He's arab, but a good arab.

To make this more official.. we could ask yo123 to recommend LastThief;

In fact, there are tons of people from the past, who are still lingering around the forum here from time to time. If they get some group-based project to work on, in the underground section, they might get motivated to code around a little bit.

So yes! DO IT!

[gigola123]

Form my part I've much to give to the underground section ^^ really much, and yeah LastThief is active from 5 / 6 years now, and he's still there. Last thief has the best profile for this.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by blablaRoyal

#EgoModeActivated
+1 for myself.

haha just kidding. LastThief would be perfect for the job. He already has access to the underground section, so I there shouldn't be an issue to see if he's "good enough" or not.

And he's one of the few people I don't have. So thats awesome!

As for the co-leader or something, I'd suggest Mohammed.. don't know the elitepvpers name, its something like Magicanoo i think. He's arab, but a good arab.

To make this more official.. we could ask yo123 to recommend LastThief;

In fact, there are tons of people from the past, who are still lingering around the forum here from time to time. If they get some group-based project to work on, in the underground section, they might get motivated to code around a little bit.

So yes! DO IT!

That's what we're trying to do. Get all the current / old users to join, and collab in a big project. Old/new people, if you're reading this, pm me

[​Exo]

Current active members are easily filtered, for the old ones I guess we should pm them with the current situation maybe we can change their minds. But first, we should take a step.

[Eckoro]

When you say collaborate to a big project what do you mean exactly? Most stuff around here has been done to death, the best thing to come from it would be for learning purposes so people can develop their skills. Silkroad is a great game for this since everything is easily accessible and there is a lot of knowledge floating about. Although making it a hidden section would be contradictory to this.

What do people want this section for?

- Sharing information?
- Developing skills?
- Cataloguing Silkroad data (Packets, modules)?
- Projects?

I remember being in it briefly and it not being used much at all. There is a coding area which is pretty sparse. The community here has always been funny about sharing things, as people have always felt the need to claim they are the best, ahead of the game or want to profit from it. The best contributor the Silkroad community will ever have was Pushedx. Back in the day if more programmers collaborated on an emulator e.g. with Github, we could of achieved great things. Everyone was just too caught up with profit, I've never known many to publish information to the degree Pushedx did. There was also users like (probably not many will know) who only ever lived on IRC, but he had a great wealth of information for the time.

I really don't think there is much left to discover with this game!

[Almighty Boosting]

Originally Posted by gigola123

Form my part I've much to give to the underground section ^^ really much, and yeah LastThief is active from 5 / 6 years now, and he's still there. Last thief has the best profile for this.

I could bring my ******* into it aswell.

OT: LastThief da kinq +1

[Kape7]

Originally Posted by Eckoro

When you say collaborate to a big project what do you mean exactly? Most stuff around here has been done to death, the best thing to come from it would be for learning purposes so people can develop their skills. Silkroad is a great game for this since everything is easily accessible and there is a lot of knowledge floating about. Although making it a hidden section would be contradictory to this.

What do people want this section for?

- Sharing information?
- Developing skills?
- Cataloguing Silkroad data (Packets, modules)?
- Projects?

I remember being in it briefly and it not being used much at all. There is a coding area which is pretty sparse. The community here has always been funny about sharing things, as people have always felt the need to claim they are the best, ahead of the game or want to profit from it. The best contributor the Silkroad community will ever have was Pushedx. Back in the day if more programmers collaborated on an emulator e.g. with Github, we could of achieved great things. Everyone was just too caught up woth profit, I've never known many to publish information to the degree Pushedx did. There was also users like (probably not many will know) who only ever lived on IRC, but he had a great wealth of information for the time.

I really don't think there is much left to discover with this game!

I agree, almost everything has been done on the SRO scene, the only thing that would bring the Silkroad development scene back to life is the release of the source code of the server files. Damn, even I would come back if something like that happens.

Pushedx contribution was indeed invaluable, back then in 2008-2010 when I didnt know how to code, for me he was just a cool and mysterious guy who did hacking stuff on 0x33, but now that I have increased my knowledge I look back and I get amazed by the stuff he had done. Without him there wouldnt even exists a private SRO scene (or at least not until a few years since the release of the server files) and there wouldnt be the huge variety of tools, bots and other programs that there are currenly. Even the PK2 editing scene would be so undeveloped compared to how it is now (old players like me probably will remember PK2 edits were done by hex-editing directly the .pk2 file and its only purpose was to make my D6 armor look like D9 armor)

About the collaboration on emulators... its a great advice, but you had the chance to do that when you worked on Zelos, yet there was no intention from any of you to do so.
This is not a recrimination, and I understand why you didnt do it, the situation on the SRO scene has been always "3 persons research and develop, and 10 take monetary profit from that work, most of the times without credits". Open source projects on the sro scene are complicated because everything can be used to make money and no one cares about licenses (memories from sremu and pax come to my mind).

And Klevre was a funny guy, but also very talented, probably around the level of pushedx. I shared many hours with him on the IRC. He had many crazy ideas, but also a big problem that affects many great programmers: he was lazy as fu.ck
I remember the idea he had about creating a single-player version of Silkroad, with an actual plot and cinematics and shit. Thats how I meet him, I was supposed to create the cinematics for the quests, and there was also another guy who was writting the plot, Klevre was in charge of the local server emulator. So going to the IRC for months, discussing ideas and shit, and Klevre never progressed at all, he either got bored or he found something else to work on. He is the TODO guy, this comic fits him perfecly:



He had a nice beard though