[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

[!nvictus-Load]

Originally Posted by alexpsp00

They pointed out something not true while sperging at another provider for no reason, real nice staff. Youve clearly made up your mind on this but this is a re occuring issue hopefully you will realize the cause of that one day.

Your staff DDoSd someone’s blood sugar monitoring website in the hopes of killing the device and a human. 💀

[HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER]

Originally Posted by alexpsp00

They pointed out something not true while sperging at another provider for no reason, real nice staff. Youve clearly made up your mind on this but this is a re occuring issue hopefully you will realize the cause of that one day.

He is looking for anything to talk about except the matter at hand. He has been challenged to a 5v5 HVH. He continues to dodge and complain about web dev bullshit (when he has no knowledge of web development, source: i have the highest level web sec cert from portswigger). He needs to go to a domain we all can relate to, and let us know his stance on the HVH. He needs to learn you cannot go here talking **** with nothing to back it up.

[fednd]

Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load

You are genuinely full of shit, and it shows in every paragraph. Let me go through your points real quick.

1. EC is untrusted because I was kicked from their Discord.
So you admit the entire decision is based on your ego and nothing else. No detection, no scam, no issue.. just you getting removed. That alone shows your list is worthless. I could already stop here but let’s look at the other points.

2. We had an agreement that I’ll never be kicked.
There was no contract, no written agreement, nothing. You were in the Discord as long as you behaved normally. Once you started acting biased, shilling NBT, and talking down EC while pretending to be neutral, you were removed. End of story.
You were not some official inspector. You were a guest. Stop pretending otherwise.

3. Mass customer complaints.
The mass complaints you keep crying about are the same three people from a year ago (Astro, Warlord, Fed), one of which is back at EC and happy.
There are no new complaints. You are recycling old drama to justify your explosion of emotions.

4. NBT was tier 1 but EC wasn’t.
You didn’t answer questions. You praised NBT’s history while ignoring EC’s decade-long record. You praised their menu while shitting on another cheat that uses the same style.
Your double standards were obvious to everyone, that’s why you were removed.

5. Since I was banned, I can’t confirm complaints, so untrusted.
This logic is beyond stupid.
Nothing changed about the product.
No bans, no detection, no scam, no issues.
The only thing that changed is your personal access.
So you punished EC because you can’t lurk anymore. That’s not safety, that’s petty.

6. No new features in 1.5–2 years.
You don’t even use the product, so you have no idea what is added or changed. Half the things you are claiming are outdated or simply wrong.
And even if development slowed, that has nothing to do with trustworthiness.
Being untrusted because a menu update was not fast enough?
You are delusional.

7. Refunds for gamebans and Hercules issues.
You don’t know shit about Hercules nor does any customer. You are repeating Discord rumors like a child.
We show live ban stats and detection logs publicly, surprise, no mass bans, no waves, nothing.
If there were actual issues, there would be real evidence, not my sources told me.

8. Mass bans of users from Discord.
People get banned for breaking rules. We enforce our rules on our private cheat very thoroughly.
Just because we don’t publish a spreadsheet for you doesn’t mean anything.
You are demanding proof for bans in a private Discord server like you are some kind of authority. You are NOT.

9. I defended EC before.
Yeah, and now you attack EC because your feelings got hurt.
Your defense changes depending on whether you anre inside the Discord or outside it.
That tells everyone everything they need to know about your credibility.



TLDR:
You didn’t list EC as untrusted because of safety, complaints, detections, or anything factual.
You did it because you got kicked, threw a tantrum, and needed a justification.
Your entire post is emotional, biased, and built on outdated drama and rumors.

You are full of shit, and everyone can see it.

Well of course NBT deserves tier 1 it has something you can not comprehend TRUE emulation simple. and it's not the same 3 people either i seen handful of people have issues quite a few of them are users of NBT and ive seen definitive proof of how you treat your customers i think we all have.

Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load

Your staff DDoSd someone’s blood sugar monitoring website in the hopes of killing the device and a human. 💀

[!nvictus-Load]

Originally Posted by fednd

Well of course NBT deserves tier 1 it has something you can not comprehend TRUE emulation simple. and it's not the same 3 people either i seen handful of people have issues quite a few of them are users of NBT and ive seen definitive proof of how you treat your customers i think we all have.

I’m not speaking against NBT at all. I know exactly who the developers are and what their previous project was, long before NBT existed, based on that history it’s clear they are competent.

As for how I treat customers: I treat people with respect.
What I expect in return is the same level of respect.
That’s where the issues with you started.

[alexpsp00]

Originally Posted by fednd

I had no issues with you i just didnt care to pay for a **** product and i simply called you a ******. simple as that. Never disrespected you.

bro stood on business, crazy.

Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load

Your staff DDoSd someone’s blood sugar monitoring website in the hopes of killing the device and a human. 💀

And he never interacted with any customers because of the way he is. You should consider doing the same for majority of your staff.

I’ve already mentioned this so idk if you have trouble reading or smth

[theme]

Private cheats don't belong on a public list in the first place. Too much information gets leaked here daily that doesn't need to be leaked.

[MIRAGE PRIVATE]

Originally Posted by theme

how much did chase nelson charge for the rebrand?

May I ask who is nelson? All products made by us. If you want can show you sources

[theme]

Originally Posted by MIRAGE PRIVATE

May I ask who is nelson? All products made by us. If you want can show you sources

Nelson is a top tier dev , no need to share source I can just find it in the forums you pasted from.
Real **** though, all good privates get known through word of mouth, not media, not posting on forums.

[astroware]

Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load

I’m not speaking against NBT at all. I know exactly who the developers are and what their previous project was, long before NBT existed, based on that history it’s clear they are competent.

As for how I treat customers: I treat people with respect.
What I expect in return is the same level of respect.
That’s where the issues with you started.

you're barking quite a lot recently into nbt's direction, you couldn't stand chudvision running it so you got onto this thread every now and then and spoke bad about it "indirectly, but it was clear as day", same is happening with nbt now, talking about bypasses get your cerberus wave fixed and then bark afterwards




You are coming here swinging around with so-called facts, here's a fact


You did not have silent aim up until yesterday and when you were confronted about that you said it is based off your 10 years of experience that you know which features are good to have and which aren't.


Another fact is, it took you roughly a week to fix EOS updating, while barking into NBT's direction, while nbt had it fixed within 3 hours


Another hysterical fact is, your customers, message nbt-related staff members and ask them to get invited to get away from your product, not being able to join servers, crashing, being gamebanned and many more issues, at least u threw them a bone by giving them detected version of pSilent again, only took you 1 year to fix that one up, so great job

10 years of experience


Another fact is, the very moment something gamebreaking releases you are the only p2c provider that does not communicate, that bans people, spreads lies, doxes their customers, rats their customers, and most importantly, we've stablished this in an earlier post

YOU ARE TOKEN LOGGING YOUR CUSTOMERS


BARK

[MIRAGE PRIVATE]

Originally Posted by theme

Nelson is a top tier dev , no need to share source I can just find it in the forums you pasted from.
Real **** though, all good privates get known through word of mouth, not media, not posting on forums.

All no proof claims again, called my products rebrand I offered to show you source code now claiming its pasted. WOW someones ego hurt because someone can do better than him

[Starlightrust]

Originally Posted by HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER

Its a classic situation. ACUS realizes he is a fucking idiot and when a cheat better in literally every way (except EC being out for an extra year) comes out he throws a temper tantrum. In general his remark was complaints about every other cheats bypass (and how they lack spoofers, are not a true bypass, or whatever the fuck). When the competition has a similar bypass to his, he cannot use this powerful debate tactic and as such falls over rewriting a menu to make it look like some shit chatgpt made using electron (with his history of using webviews, it probably is). Putting a new menu wont make the cheat any better. Personally i think we need to stop being pussies and settle the drama in a reasonable way. 5v5 hvh tourney, EC vs NBT, winner picks others placement on the list.

TLDR: Gear up or shut up pussy.

Ec rage cheat suck balls sooo hard

i fucking love this thread but ye, EC kinda poppy rn, shit being awful since the FP issue after that everything just crumble and the menu was promised to us 1 year ago already like just fucking drop it

If you go play in any cheating clans and you are on EC you get insulted its just how bad is it right now LMAOOO

Btw : EC Been there for 3year+

Still no webradar, still has a fucking 2018 config folder in the rust folder
bro been accepting pretty much everyone whos making a ticket in the pub
(deadass i get ask about how to get into it and i just say lie and ive never see someone not get into EC)
Issue on FP server and FP friendly like moose for the past 6/7 month now
The UD status that people are getting into EC for barely work anymore
i know cheater that use public or pasted internal just not to get on EC
and please dont repply with 'you are banned from EC cause you didnt pay the sub', how much people are running away without paying theyr sub daily now acus ?

btw who tf still need the heraclus or wtv like just get a bypass that work idk 10year of experience in coding so yk what the shit no ?

[!nvictus-Load]

Originally Posted by Starlightrust

Ec rage cheat suck ***** sooo hard

i ******* love this thread but ye, EC kinda poppy rn, **** being awful since the FP issue after that everything just crumble and the menu was promised to us 1 year ago already like just ******* drop it

If you go play in any cheating clans and you are on EC you get insulted its just how bad is it right now LMAOOO

Btw : EC Been there for 3year+

Still no webradar, still has a ******* 2018 config folder in the rust folder
bro been accepting pretty much everyone whos making a ticket in the pub
(deadass i get ask about how to get into it and i just say lie and ive never see someone not get into EC)
Issue on FP server and FP friendly like moose for the past 6/7 month now
The UD status that people are getting into EC for barely work anymore
i know cheater that use public or pasted internal just not to get on EC
and please dont repply with 'you are banned from EC cause you didnt pay the sub', how much people are running away without paying theyr sub daily now acus ?

btw who tf still need the heraclus or wtv like just get a bypass that work idk 10year of experience in coding so yk what the **** no ?

Lots of people running away from EC, come back with facts..

How come you speak on our cheat without ever having used it? You would know what our bypass is called. Besides that since private got released we had zero ban waves and issues with FP got fixed a while ago.

[Starlightrust]

Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load

Lots of people running away from EC, come back with facts.. https://imgur.com/a/3X4ndXy

How come you speak on our cheat without ever having used it? You would know what our bypass is called. Besides that since private got released we had zero ban waves and issues with FP got fixed a while ago.

for the first issue, i deadass dk if your larping or no but i know so many people that running without paying theyr full sub and ive used the cheat for 3 month 8 month ago, then stopped after the 3 month sub ran out cause the cheat was actually going no where near what i wanted

there was so many feature that wasnt working the entire 3 month plan i was on EC and so MANY issue with FP server and that still not fixed cause friends who are on EC cant log into the server were doing wipe on ( Fp server Friendly )

[!nvictus-Load]

Originally Posted by Starlightrust

for the first issue, i deadass dk if your larping or no but i know so many people that running without paying theyr full sub and ive used the cheat for 3 month 8 month ago, then stopped after the 3 month sub ran out cause the cheat was actually going no where near what i wanted

there was so many feature that wasnt working the entire 3 month plan i was on EC and so MANY issue with FP server and that still not fixed cause friends who are on EC cant log into the server were doing wipe on ( Fp server Friendly )

You are describing your own experience based entirely on the people you talk to and the stories you choose to believe.
If your circle is made up of people who never paid, charged back well then of course your perspective will look a certain way. That’s just how human nature works. You surround yourself with others who reinforce your view.

But that doesn’t make it objective reality.

We have hundreds of active users who have zero of the issues you are talking about.
We also have public ban statistics, live channel that shows bans instantly + the server they were on when the ban happened and stability data that show the opposite of what you are claiming.

If you used EC for 3 months 8 months ago, then you are talking about a completely different state of the product anyway. Things have changed massively since then, and pretending otherwise doesn’t make your argument stronger. Nowadays we support tpm, secure boot and any windows version from 7.

You are free to prefer whatever product you want.
Just don’t project your own filtered bubble as if it’s the truth for everyone.

[divisioncheats]

I would like to appeal our rating.
We have be FULLY UD since the drop of Division recode.
Thanks