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[lilnani]

Hello


I want to ask any dev team here or any programmers How i can unpack data File i have make extract for data one the result is data file without extension and the size 4.8 gb i try dragon unpacker but only unpack image file and i ask someone i wouldnt share his name he told me i can unpack them by dump it by memory but i don't know any thing in programing

i see to much people can unpack them on this forum

plz can any one release a code or program to unpack them

any one can share them i think maybe

UP

[lilnani]

iam not programer what meen dump from memory and how i can dump it

thank for ur reply

[s0ul37]

Honestly, what do you want to do with the files if you are not a programer - there is no use for them if you are not a programer.

[lilnani]

ok thanks for all and i will stop trying to unpack the data file

[Pyrok]

I don't think she was saying to stop trying. She was saying that you'll need custom tools to do it. This next part isn't aimed at anyone in particular..

About our tools... It wasn't real hard to create something that can dump the client data. Others have done it before I did. I have never claimed to be some elite programmer, I'm sure there are plenty of others on here that can do the same thing. It took maybe half a day to get it up and running so it isn't real complicated.

The reasons I'm not releasing it are pretty simple. The main reason is that I want to keep the method I used intact for future use. Our end goal isn't a 6.x server, it's a 7.3 server. Once it has served it's purpose then I will release it. Another reason is that I want a stable base server before people start hacking the **** out of it. There is still many issues that need to be fixed and sometimes it isn't feasible to preserve custom content when releasing fixes. I have been working on a tool to help with this but it's not anywhere near ready to go. We've already run into this issue to some degree on our team when more than 1 person is making changes to strings or NPCs or whatnot.

As far as the dev team goes... We initially were pretty open about everything until people started passing off our work as their own. That ****** us off and we decided to close it off to the public. Perhaps the time has come to open it back up some. This is something we need to discuss internally before doing. We try to make decisions as a team if at all possible. I know I've told people before that changes were coming and they haven't yet. Unfortunately I've been too busy lately with real life stuff to address this (or get much done on the server) lately.

The conflict between the different groups on here isn't helpful to anyone and is a waste of time and energy. While it passes time when I'm at work it isn't accomplishing anything so from now on I'm going to ignore the flames, it isn't worth my time anymore.

[Uebari]

Well it seems the team isn't very good at keep your stuff private either so...

[ismokedrow]

I disagree with your methods Pyrok, whole heartily infact. You keep stating your aim and stating that such a thing would require an emulator and such a thing would require tons of time and well what if some of us have the knowledge and creativity to create a great server off what we have? Again this links back to the "If it isn't NCarbon" it's no good. The same close minded approach that I was against yesterday and still against today.

[lilnani]

can any one give me a pic from data files or from epic 7 files

[lloode]

Originally Posted by lilnani

can any one give me a pic from data files or from epic 7 files

me 2 pls guys

[Uebari]

Originally Posted by ismokedrow

I disagree with your methods Pyrok, whole heartily infact. You keep stating your aim and stating that such a thing would require an emulator and such a thing would require tons of time and well what if some of us have the knowledge and creativity to create a great server off what we have? Again this links back to the "If it isn't NCarbon" it's no good. The same close minded approach that I was against yesterday and still against today.

I fully agree with you Smoke... Pyrok and their "team" are fairly bad at representing themselves in a good way. They seem to lie to the community and many of the users than show upfront what they don't have or can't do.

[lilnani]

uebari can u give us pictures from epic 7 files i know u have it only give us pic

[Pyrok]

Originally Posted by ismokedrow

I disagree with your methods Pyrok, whole heartily infact. You keep stating your aim and stating that such a thing would require an emulator and such a thing would require tons of time and well what if some of us have the knowledge and creativity to create a great server off what we have? Again this links back to the "If it isn't NCarbon" it's no good. The same close minded approach that I was against yesterday and still against today.

I didn't say I'd wait until the emu is ready, I said I am waiting until the dumping tool has served its purpose. The editing tool can only do Strings, NPCs, and Quests right now so it's nowhere near release-ready regardless.

I don't ever recall saying that if we didn't release it it isn't any good. There's been things released on here that we've incorporated, with permission of course. There's been other things released on here that we won't incorporate because it isn't "official" data. I took a look at your mob fixes and it appears to be done correctly which was my only concern with it (using the nfs file scripts for the spawns instead of hard-coding them). That being said, it doesn't match the official servers so we wouldn't include it in our base releases even if we did have permission to do so.

Originally Posted by Uebari

I fully agree with you Smoke... Pyrok and their "team" are fairly bad at representing themselves in a good way. They seem to lie to the community and many of the users than show upfront what they don't have or can't do.

I don't know who you are and have never talked to you as far as I know. Regardless, I've never lied about what I have and what can be done. I've been pretty clear about what we can't do right now: Dura and Staged pets. Everything else either is doable or hasn't been tried yet.

[lilnani]

i hear someone he have working dt

can any one dump the files?

and what is dump file from memory?

[ismokedrow]

Originally Posted by Pyrok

I didn't say I'd wait until the emu is ready, I said I am waiting until the dumping tool has served its purpose. The editing tool can only do Strings, NPCs, and Quests right now so it's nowhere near release-ready regardless.

I don't ever recall saying that if we didn't release it it isn't any good. There's been things released on here that we've incorporated, with permission of course. There's been other things released on here that we won't incorporate because it isn't "official" data. I took a look at your mob fixes and it appears to be done correctly which was my only concern with it (using the nfs file scripts for the spawns instead of hard-coding them). That being said, it doesn't match the official servers so we wouldn't include it in our base releases even if we did have permission to do so.

All I seen in this post are more excuses and diversionary tactics. I never asked you once to include any of Redemption's work by default but guess what some people don't want the basic *** #1 reason most of us quit retail. Because it's so boring and listless, your above response states that because I'm not making retail changes my work doesn't warrant updated strings.

I still no comprehensible reason why you won't release that tool other than "Ncarbon will be the only releases with updated strings and quests' again leading all the way back to the closed minded method that's at the source of my disdain for you and your team at the moment.

[Pyrok]

Originally Posted by ismokedrow

All I seen in this post are more excuses and diversionary tactics. I never asked you once to include any of Redemption's work by default but guess what some people don't want the basic *** #1 reason most of us quit retail. Because it's so boring and listless, your above response states that because I'm not making retail changes my work doesn't warrant updated strings.

I still no comprehensible reason why you won't release that tool other than "Ncarbon will be the only releases with updated strings and quests' again leading all the way back to the closed minded method that's at the source of my disdain for you and your team at the moment.

I've already said why I'm not releasing it right now. You may not like my reasons but they won't change. What we are doing is incredibly easy for gala to disable without them having to redo their protection and force a big download. And releasing any client-side data changes would make it really clear what we are doing so your idea of us wanting to be the only team that can do it is wrong. We won't be doing it either for now. Yes, we had some fun making custom stuff initially and it was probably a bad idea to post them. It was meant to show what we all will be able to do in the future, not 'look at us, we can do this and you can't'.

Hope this clears things up. If not, oh well, I can't make things more clear than this so this will be my last post about it.