Am i missing something? Bypasses, detection.

[ielevatex]

Hello everyone,

I've been using multiple platforms for scripting since BoL was a thing - i kind of know my way around it by now. At this time its quite hard to get something reliable and undetected

Just a quick note - i will be mentioning multiple platforms in this topic, and this is purely for situation comparison, not to hate/brag.

Bypasses (Like Dreynguard) have been created in order to... well - bypass vanguard. Since we cant effectively create a platform thats undetected by it, we simply bypass it - thats understandable.

Detection - We know vanguard detects basically everything at this point, we also know about pacman.

My current timeline (skipping older projects like bol, leaguesharp etc):
- BGX (w/o bypass) banned in ~1-3 days.
- LS (about a year ago w/o bypass) - 1.5-2 months
- LS (now, w/o bypass) - about a week before ban
- Lenc (no external soft, just pure lenc) ~3 months and still going (no ban on record)
- LS with Dreyn (tested on both single pc and dual pc) - I want to say roughly 2-3 weeks.
- LS with the popular free dual pc bypass here on epvp - roughky 2-3 weeks. (had a case where was banned within 4 days but i blame it on me for poor spoofing)

My question: Since dreyn is a premium/semi-premium software that provides bypassing vanguard in a "it makes sence" scenario, how come im banned within the given timeframe in my timeline? (This has been tested with and without evade). And how does that compare to Lenc for example, where there is no external software to prevent vanguard (just purely lenc on its own) and i can be as blatant as i can (played with and without evade - im about 3 months in no bans or callouts)

I do understand that player reports take a huge part, but even then - i tested so much that i even went as far as playing without holding spacebar for the entire game, and reserving it for imoportant fights - still banned within the time frame i given (ls, ls+dreyn, hanbot without/with bypass).

How can such software cost you hundrets of dollars, claiming its undetected, and claiming that playing with detected scripts is now a possiblity yet not really delivering what it promised? (atleast for me).

Whats the core difference between said Lenc, and LS/ls+dreyn?

All the above platforms i mentioned are ones that i like, and there is 0 hate towards them in this comparison - i just purely want to understand whats going on.

- Worth to mention, all testing was taking place within the time period of about 2 years, everytime an account was banned, computer was formatted, new drive, spoofed and left alone for about ~month playing clean to make sure it wasnt flagged. Second pc bypasses were used mainly on new machines (i had about 5 mini pc's and i used new one everytime i was banned when using 2 pc bypasses).

[Changcoello]

For the sake of our wallets. We have to accept it, Riot won.

Previously, the developers of these platforms focused on being the best, on providing great security; many even did so for free (such as WSReborn by LeftSpace).

Now they only focus on lying to you and have become experts at deceiving people, making you a thousand fake promises. For many, this scenario is already dead and it's only a matter of time before it disappears completely, and I doubt a savior will appear.

Ggwp Vanguard

[SomeoneAmazing]

ill put briefly: you are getting scammed and need to be WAY more thorough if you're going to purchase anything in the scripting market. Do research, look at reviews, join a private platform/bypass, ask around for people's experiences, make friends, etc.
LS with or without Dreynguard is extremely detected, and to go even further, ANY product that is free is going to get you automatically banned. They will never last long in modern LoL with Vanguard around.

Moving forward, Vanguard and Riot's anti-cheat team are extremely efficient. Devs these days cannot be bothered to actually put effort into making public platforms because it's FAR easier to scam people for a quick buck by spreading misinformation about their product not being detected. Not to mention, any public platform becomes an auto target for Riot's anti-cheat team. Even private platforms get Riot rats who join and cause the private platform to become detected (XNX for example got detected last year from this and hasn't really recovered)

You have to remember that scripters and people who create scripting platforms/bypasses lack complete integrity. It's an every man for themselves operation, so you can never be too careful. It's important to also note that there are TONS of scammers, especially "developers" and resellers. They just want your money and scripters are desperate for anything they can find, thus they are gullible and easy to take advantage of. Think about it, lol, it's pretty obvious.

Right now, there are a handful of private platforms and private bypasses scraping by but they cost an exorbitant amount of money to afford, let alone the fact that you have to FIND them and/or receive an invite because they're slotted. Even then, private platforms get hit, so you're never 100% safe. But ultimately private will always be the best bet. You just have to make sure, with absolute certainty, that you're not going to get scammed unless you're chill with losing a decent chunk of money. Of course the privileges we had back before Vanguard are now gone, so pretty much get used to it. Even getting HWID banned is a death sentence to a PC because it's pain-staking to find a good spoofer, if at all.

Be careful and good luck finding what you're looking for! And again, don't bother using LS without a private bypass, or any public platform without a bypass for that matter.

[9001dollarheadset]

to answer the question you asked, there are multiple factors;
ls is internal, a lot more detection vectors, as it runs within the game internally, its easy for any intrusive anticheat to see that they are manipulating memory.
while lenc is external, it runs outside of the game, as long as they have an ud method to read memory or move the mouse you won't get dtc.

these days externals are far easier to go undetected than internals unless you have a solid signed driver and keep it from the public - with a trusted signed driver internals can play with memory even with vanguard running, but EVERYTHING public is doomed to get detected eventually

most bypasses work by emulating vanguard, sending a "heartbeat" so to speak so that lol thinks vgk is still running. the thing is riot can change this at any point, making it obvious you are duping vgk if they aren't recieving packets that they should be - bypasses also need to be reguarly checked and kept private to stay ud
since this can happen at any point you are always prone to getting banned if the script you are using is detected

scripts like lenc use usb injection, i could be wrong on their exact method but you can boot from usb an unsigned driver (testing mode) to read the games memory, and you are somewhat safe because your script isn't trying to "change" anything
if these scripts require secure boot off this is likely what they are doing (although its possible to spoof boot mode)
methods like this don't work in other anticheats, i'm shocked it works for so long with vgk
on top of that vgk can take screenshots, so lenc having no visuals ads another layer of protection in a way

other than those, it's also incredibly obvious if you are scripting with internal compared to external, the timing of everything you do is "exact", especially if you are using evade, while on externals sometimes you can't even tell you are scripting as everything is "emulated" through a loop so to speak, unless of course they see you are reading memory or moving mouse/sending inputs

that's how all these usb copys (lenc, pentasharp, nyrex etc) go ud longer than any public internal ever would and why all these public bypasses keep going dtc then ud again 5 times a month.
i've used all kinds of scripts made from many solid devs, and never caught a ban since 2015 (pre vgk) thanks to only using private.
all you need to remember is that everything public will get detected eventually, so have fun with those tior pastes while you can they are cheap for a reason

[Kumas]

i agree,but is there any other platforms that use usb injection with solid evade/orbwalk logic? toir's logic is terrible