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Bypass detection

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Bypass detection

If i were to make an arlright bypass and only share it between 3 people is there less of a chance for it to get dtc
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When I was testing a friends cheat which had a dog **** bypass, with like 2 users we didn’t get banned. Once it had like 5-8 we got banned pretty fast. I’m no dev and idk for sure but I think there’s less of a chance
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If i were to make an arlright bypass and only share it between 3 people is there less of a chance for it to get dtc
if you make a decent bypass, and it was shared in-between 3 people there should be 0 reason for detections to ever happened unless 2 conditions were to happen

1. the bypass was shared by a user to a BE agent

2. a anti-cheat update circumvented your bypass
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if you make a decent bypass, and it was shared in-between 3 people there should be 0 reason for detections to ever happened unless 2 conditions were to happen

1. the bypass was shared by a user to a BE agent

2. a anti-cheat update circumvented your bypass
This would only mean that if we inject it wed get banned so aslong as we check if the anticheat was updated wed be fine?
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If i were to make an arlright bypass and only share it between 3 people is there less of a chance for it to get dtc
If it isn't completely pasted, then you wont get banned with 3 users. 5 - 6 users is usually when it happens for ultra detected stuff. 20+ for pretty detected stuff
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if you make a decent bypass, and it was shared in-between 3 people there should be 0 reason for detections to ever happened unless 2 conditions were to happen

1. the bypass was shared by a user to a BE agent

2. a anti-cheat update circumvented your bypass
Or your bypass is already flagged out of this world, be isn’t like EAC where they let people use a detected cheat until the user base really spirals
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Or your bypass is already flagged out of this world, be isn’t like EAC where they let people use a detected cheat until the user base really spirals
thats why i said "if you make a decent bypass" not if you make a bad bypass lol

If your bypass already bypasses the anticheat it should have no reason to get detected with such a low userbase.. and EAC is just a info miner, it collects data before banning you, its why its so strong in games like fortnite
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Or your bypass is already flagged out of this world, be isn’t like EAC where they let people use a detected cheat until the user base really spirals

it literally is lmao. it is just way less sophisticated
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It seems even sellers don't know what the word bypass means.

There is no "decent" or "alright" bypass.
You are either undetected, or detected.
There is a large space in-between, where nearly every cheat on this site falls.

Forget everything you're told about user-counts, or a cheat being "private".
Forget all that bullshit.

Listen man, everything I'm about to say isn't a flame, and it's not to offend to anybody else.
But based on your previous posts, I'm assuming you are relatively new to this
This being, Computer Science in general.

First things first, this is not a programming forum. This is not a technical forum.
You need to realize that this website is to be seen entirely as a marketing platform.
People don't teach, they don't correct you with the right info, they just sell their product.
EPVP is full of resellers, pasters, and scammers.

Most of them couldn't tell you what a heap is, or what the Windows Kernel-Object Manager is.
I could hand them the .PDB from EAC's build server, and they still couldn't reverse a single function.

Too many teenagers learn how to compile a driver or a random source online, learn how to accept bitcoin, and then tell their friends they have this great new idea of running a cheat "company".

Too many people think they're learning to code, when really they're just adding two lines to a random source.
Too many people try to go into a programming interview with their "years of experience", only to learn they know absolutely nothing.

To summarize,
Even if this is what you wanted to do, you are frankly years behind in hard-earned experience.
Even if you spent all of your free time on learning the pre-reqs to cheat-development,
you would be mainly learning only a very niche section of Software Development that will likely never pay off, other than as a hobby.

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This would only mean that if we inject it wed get banned so aslong as we check if the anticheat was updated wed be fine?
That is frankly not how that is done at all.

1) If they were targeting you, and did find a new flag that could detect you,
they'd load it as shellcode, or a silent update.
This way they can flag all of your cheat users, and get them banned.

1.A) Unless you actually checked the shellcode and binaries yourself, you would likely never actually know what component is detected, until you did very lengthy testing.

2) As a smaller cheat, you are unlikely to be manually investigated at all, unless you do something crazy that they want to patch ASAP.

3) Unless you are actually reversing the AC yourself, checking versions won't matter.
Because either way, you would be relying entirely on what others tell you is detected or not.

Note on usercount:
Unless you have hundreds / thousands of users, usercount does NOT matter.

What happens sometimes, is cheats have a small flag that isn't confirmed as being a cheat.
These can be dismissed as false-positives or as not serious.
Once there's x amount of users all with the same flag, and all with the flag plays suspiciously, it is confirmed as a cheat, banning them.

But to be clear, that doesn't mean your cheat magically got detected at 5 or 10 users, it means your cheat was already detected and flagged, and was merely confirmed as being a cheat.
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