[QUESTION] Server on Virtual Server?

freez00 · 02/27/2015, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Decima

remote? lmfao, rising on a VPS, again LMFAO, rising IS NOT on a VPS, and if you think it is, then you are retarded. . . .

and may as well just shit on ur bandwidth if you are using a remote back up source, may as well just host every download you have on it, lag party FTW ffs. . .

yeah businesses use VPS, large businesses, fuck no, i think they make enough to use a dedi, and while we are talking about that big load of bullshit, businesses use them for web scripts, not game servers, which use a lot more bandwidth than some run-of-the-mill web script, u are comparing apples to oranges

look, you can use the advice of these 2, which combined have a an average of ZERO successful servers between them, or listen to the ppl telling you the actual truth, remote back-ups, really? lmfao may as well just shit on ur connection and call it gold, country origin doesnt make a shit, u can live in any country and get a dedi on the other side of the planet, obviously you are gonna get players from all over, so why get a dedi 2 blocks away?

you guys are the ones thats holding ppl back by giving them false info on things, neither of you know shit about running any kind of server, so stfu and rtfm already, stop feeding ppl bullshit, 250 for a VPS? ur smoking crack, u can get a better dedi for half that price easy, wtf is wrong with both of you?

done with arguing this point, if you have an IQ over 60, you can Google it and see the difference and whats better to run a game server, whether you have a $80 budget or a $400 budget, a VPS isnt going to do anything for you, and their failure should be proof enough for that.

gl

Wow you blow a lot of hot air and don't know shit! Get a life old man! Stop being a flaming keyboard warrior punk!

IP address for Rising: 50.115.121.228

Microsoft even offers VPS hosting. Ever heard of VMWARE ESXI? Microsoft Hyper V? The whole world is doing VPS now. What rock did you crawl out from under caveman?

elfulll · 02/27/2015, 21:22

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Originally Posted by freez00

Wow you blow a lot of hot air and don't know ****! Get a life old man! Stop being a flaming keyboard warrior punk!

IP address for Rising: 50.115.121.228

Microsoft even offers VPS hosting. Ever heard of VMWARE ESXI? Microsoft Hyper V? The whole world is doing VPS now. What rock did you crawl out from under caveman?

You realize how stupid you look ? Website is Website and Game server is different. Check it out to see the game server is hosted in Belize(can't name the company) next time do not type if you don't know what you talk about.

freez00 · 02/28/2015, 17:31

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Originally Posted by elfulll

You realize how stupid you look ? Website is Website and Game server is different. Check it out to see the game server is hosted in Belize(can't name the company) next time do not type if you don't know what you talk about.

I put all the links on purpose because the first IP is the server, the rest are the websites on different IP's DUH!

Decima · 02/28/2015, 19:34

and how does any of that prove they are on a VPS exactly?

none of those links show a damned thing about the actual host, only where the IP is hosted, ever hear of DNS einstein?

ur a ****** if you think rising is hosted on a VPS, the only thing you linked to was web hosts, i have IPs being directed to my dedi, and if you look up the IP that i am directing it wont show where its being directed, only the place that hosts the IP address

so you think since VPS are available that everyone uses them? *****, they are cost effective for businesses who dont have to worry about running bandwidth and resource hogging applications, you think ANY official game servers run on a VPS??? ever wonder why that is? VPS have been available for a really long time, they arent some new technology that just came out ffs, they are VIRTUAL private servers, maybe you should go google that so you know what it means, and FYI just because MS offers them, doesnt mean they are the industry standard and are replacing dedicated servers

if you are about done making yourself look like a complete moron, i have better things to do than argue with someone whos about as smart as a brick

freez00 · 02/28/2015, 23:03

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Originally Posted by Decima

and how does any of that prove they are on a VPS exactly?

none of those links show a damned thing about the actual host, only where the IP is hosted, ever hear of DNS einstein?

ur a ****** if you think rising is hosted on a VPS, the only thing you linked to was web hosts, i have IPs being directed to my dedi, and if you look up the IP that i am directing it wont show where its being directed, only the place that hosts the IP address

so you think since VPS are available that everyone uses them? *****, they are cost effective for businesses who dont have to worry about running bandwidth and resource hogging applications, you think ANY official game servers run on a VPS??? ever wonder why that is? VPS have been available for a really long time, they arent some new technology that just came out ffs, they are VIRTUAL private servers, maybe you should go google that so you know what it means, and FYI just because MS offers them, doesnt mean they are the industry standard and are replacing dedicated servers

if you are about done making yourself look like a complete moron, i have better things to do than argue with someone whos about as smart as a brick

Lookup the hosting provider dumbass! It's VPS!!!

Decima · 03/01/2015, 01:56

im the dumbass?

actually read what the site says supertard, let me paste a snippet;

" We offer a range of fully managed Web site, database and email hosting services for businesses, local government and non-profit organizations."

first sentence on the page i might add, notice the term "managed web site. . ." guess what that means? here ill break it down so even someone as ignorant as you can understand, they HOST WEB SITES DATABASE AND EMAIL, not a VPS, it seems they also "offer" cloud services, which is not a VPS either

you sir, are a fking moron, learn to read, use ur brain a bit, and dont lick the windows on the short bus while trying to post a reply, you are obviously missing crucial information while doing so, dont care how colorful your helmet may be.

your stupidity amazes me to my very core

rising isnt hosted on a VPS, thank you, and good bye.

fastswipe · 03/01/2015, 11:36

End this pointless, off topic bashing war already! You have given the answer to the poster already, stop bashing eachother and shut your egos down! Decima you're a respected guy but do you have to lower yourself just to prove to someone that you're better then him or her? Enough is enough.

The question was can you. And you guys said yes. (Yes you can run the server but it will lag alot!!)

freez00 · 03/01/2015, 15:04

@Decima first I get flamed about rising on VPS. TBH they suck anyways and their server goes down and works half-***. I remember a month or 2 to ago Nitex saying he was moving from his current VPS to another hosting provider because of constant DDOS attacks. Maybe his new provider isn't VPS I don't know.

My point being is everyone just comes here to flame no one helps anyone. You don't like VPS fine, lots of people do and use VPS. You can run a pserver from a VPS without a problem. Don't like it? Tough, it's life.

alexmak96 · 03/01/2015, 17:18

you say they suck but you don't even know how to edit csv

kasuma11 · 03/01/2015, 19:42

Ok listen everyone i cannot believe the flammers that just want to just turn people in the wrong direction........ A VPS is a basic not as customizable server Hosted on a physical box sharing resources, but most VPS's use firewalls, routers, and switches to do bandwidth load monitoring. Plus hes just starting out hes not gonna have 20k people storming the server over night he doesnt need a dedicated line or server atm to be honest... Anyone that says he needs to get this Unreal specs and prices are just tryin to scare anyone thats new.

do your research before flamming please!!!

BEST ADVICE TO ANYONE THAT WANTS A SERVER TRY IT DONT POST IN THIS BECAUSE YOU WILL ONLY GET ANSWERS THAT ARE FROM STUPID 14 YEAR OLDS THAT FLUNKED OUT OF SCHOOL!!!!!

SOMEONE PLEASE CLOSE THIS TOPIC IT WILL GET NO WERE WITH THESE RESULTS

freez00 · 03/01/2015, 20:44

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Originally Posted by alexmak96

you say they suck but you don't even know how to edit csv

I know how to edit csv, I just don't know where to go to edit what I need since there's no documentation or instructions.

Decima · 03/01/2015, 20:59

ok, fast is right, this has gotten way out of hand, and i will take responsibility for some of it, BUT im not going to give this guy some false information, not trying to scare anyone away from anything, im not trying to prove i am better or worse, i did get off course with the rising thing, so im going to get back to what i originally was trying to get at

not only have i done research, but i have also had hands on experience with both sides, the bottom line is the VPS is no more cost effective than a dedicated server, you WILL have to have at LEAST 8gb to run the server, you can argue that fact until ur blue in the face, and it will never change the fact, being on a shared system is a bad idea ESPECIALLY if you are just starting out, lag, down time, etc, ppl come, see no one on, lag out, DC, and you expect them to log back on everyday? no, they wont, they move on and then let it be known to everyone how bad ur server sux, ask anyone who plays pservers, thats how the wheels go round

you are telling this guy to go out and get a ****** VPS, with ****** specs, on a shared system and network so that he can save the hundreds of dollars to get a dedi, but the fact is that dedis dont cost what you are claiming they do, case in point;

with this you get remote access, you can choose where your server will be located at, you can get a quad core, 16gb, 2x1500gb HD for $55 USD per month, you have your own machine, your own connection, your own bandwidth, and NONE of the headaches associated with a VPS, so why on earth are you pointing this guy to a VPS? thats just plain dumb, and you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of doing, yet i am not doing what you are accusing me of, and you are, you are steering this guy to failure right out of the gate, and i am trying to help him to succeed in his endeavor.

whos the dumb greedy ******* now, hmm?

freez00 · 03/02/2015, 01:15

The nice thing about VPS is you can upgrade as you need. VPS is scalable. You need more RAM or CPU power then you upgrade. You look at your VPS cost vs a dedicated machine on a static IP. When it's more cost-effective, then move to a dedicated system.

Personally I use a dedicated server. That's because I already have the hardware and static IP's. If I didn't, I would look into a VPS solution.

Decima · 03/02/2015, 02:38

you can upgrade a dedi the exact same, i have upgraded mine 3-4 times with no issues and nothing changed on my HD or setup, of course the cost per month has went up, but you get the same thing on a vps, so. . .

k0de · 03/02/2015, 18:09

This topic has gotten way out of hand. But I think I must agree with Decima on getting a dedicated server over a VPS for the simple fact that a dedicated server seems a lot more secure and reliable than a VPS.

Now I know some of you are probably thinking "Oh another guy wanting to start a PS", but I only asked a question. Honestly I am not going pretend that I am knowledgeable about VPS or Dedicated Servers (which Is why I asked the question) however it is something I am keen to set out on.

@Decima I noticed on that link you sent me, would you recommend starting with the $44 a month then upgrading to a $54 a month? Or just starting with $54?

I appreciate everyones input, just stop the flame war. Ive said what I have needed.