August 5th Faceit Update & 2PC AI

[Kyle62]

Curious to get everyone’s thoughts on this upcoming faceit update that is going to introduce humanization detection.

Do you think any 2PC AIs will survive this? Will we see some legit players get ban? Do you plan on continuing to play through this update?

Here are my personal opinions on it (take this with a grain of salt as I’m not very knowledgeable on how it all works):

The only thing I think that can bypass this would be a trigger bot with random delay set. Even with axis lock, ab curves and humanization training based off, the hardware we have access to still has its limitations on what it’s capable of.

Fact: Faceit has essentially unlimited resources/money to combat cheats compared to how much resources cheat providers have, anything that faceit employees will have access to get their hands on or even learn how it works will get ban sooner or later.

My Plan: I personally plan on switching to playing prem for a few months and seeing if any providers are able to survive.

Anyone and everyone feel free to comment any opinions you have on this. I am very curious to see what everyone has to say about it especially any AI providers themself.

[180FOV]

I really doubt 2PC AIs will die since they are so easy to make look legit. Might be like maybe handful of false bans if even that and most of the players who get banned go full monkey blatant anyways

[Kyle62]

Originally Posted by 180FOV

I really doubt 2PC AIs will die since they are so easy to make look legit. Might be like maybe handful of false bans if even that and most of the players who get banned go full monkey blatant anyways

As legit as it looks to the human eye, I believe it will come down to a deeper analysis of the mouse movements themselves. Maybe I’m wrong, we’ll just have to wait and see 🤷

[iTexas]

Originally Posted by Kyle62

As legit as it looks to the human eye, I believe it will come down to a deeper analysis of the mouse movements themselves. Maybe I’m wrong, we’ll just have to wait and see 🤷

Just train the AI to move the mouse like your own aim

Simply add training data of your own aim and have it use that at reference in terms of speed, shakyness (No human moves their mouse in a perfectly straight line) and whoops, now there's no difference between your actual aim and the AI moving the mouse

[germany0]

i think it's gonna be really hard for ai to prevent cheating.

[ReallyRich]

Let's wait and see how providers adapt after the update

[snowflake0]

you need a very natural aim that looks human, also avoid reports since they'll manually ban you very fast

[none4ir]

mostly Mouse emulator devices got detected ...
low software output rate / incorrect movement timing can create a detection vector, especially when the software output does not match the polling rate the user expects from the device.

[projectS3FX3]

Makcu is struggling on faceit :/