Hacking and Botting on Conqueronline

[TheBoyWhoLost]

Originally Posted by 271310064

If you ask me, what you both are saying are factors in safe botting. pro4never is giving info more on saving your main account from any trouble while you are giving tips on how to make your botting characters more safe...they are both helpful but id rather my main account be 99% safe then any of my botting characters.

I did not only say how to protect your botters a bit better. I also said how to not get your main in trouble. As i already said, using a second ip for your main is of course extra safety, but totally not needed when you bot with a normal pair of brains. If i would tell you more about my experience you would totally understand that it's all just unnecessary extra's which are only needed if you are either over rating botting or when you just don't use your brains when you bot.

Originally Posted by myty

maybe you could explain about the vpn and all other stuff that you said

Feel free to ask any questions. I'll try my beat to inform you with the knowledge that i have.

[271310064]

well anyway, what about aimbotting? any more info?

[Nitroxide]

What pro4never previously said was absolutely bang on, never mind TheBoyWhoLost's prepubescent stupidity.

[pro4never]

Originally Posted by 271310064

well anyway, what about aimbotting? any more info?

There are a few ways to protect yourself when aimbotting but by its very nature it will contain more risks to your main.


#1: You're going to be aimbotting against an enemy... This enemy has every desire to destroy you often (not only in the current fight but often times they honestly wish to make you loose your character regardless of if you are hacking or not)

#2: I would think just about everyone these days who is active in fb/ss records their fights... If not they sure as hell should be.

Because of these two factors, your aimbotting will be recorded a proportionally large percentage of the time compared to say... using a bot to farm/hunt with ninjas. Add to this the fact that in 99 percent of cases you will be using your main character to aimbot and you're seriously risking all the work you put into the character.

That being said... Tq has horrendous support and accept little to no player reports. Because of that the risks go down by quite a lot and that's why so many people are willing to aimbot with their mains. Fb/ss was the only part of conquer worth paying attention to... new classes have ruined that though so I kinda don't care anymore about aimbotters lol.



<Steps to protect yourself>

Don't aimbot like an idiot.

As always when using any sort of hack.... don't broadcast it to the world. When using a hunt bot this includes things such as avoiding players, disconnecting, slowing down when players show up, not botting where people generally are... etcetc.

In aimbotting though this means things like adding a delay before your attacks as well as making it so you don't auto hit every single time. Most aimbots have some sort of a manual mode (so you can say attack with tornado to make it hit, then switch back to normal fastblade for the rest of your shots). If you just use a default mode of an aimbot though, it will be incredibly obvious what you're doing as you'll hit them 5 times in a row within about 2 seconds.

[myty]

Feel free to ask any questions. I'll try my beat to inform you with the knowledge that i have.

so can u explain step by step the way you are protecting your account ussing vpn and all the things that you said?

[BaussHacker]

Originally Posted by myty

so can u explain step by step the way you are protecting your account ussing vpn and all the things that you said?

Follow pro4never's tips and whatever, then ignore the lost brain.

[TheBoyWhoLost]

Originally Posted by myty

so can u explain step by step the way you are protecting your account ussing vpn and all the things that you said?

I am not using a VPN nor do i use a VPS, all i said is that the poster i quoted should at least recommend both options. so you can make a decision for yourself if you are and which you are going to use.

VPS (Virtual Private Server):
A virtual machine running on a server, so this is a secondairy IP for you which you can bot on. You can remotely control this machine from where ever you are with a device that supports the remote control.
By using this you would need a bot with standalone features though.

VPN (Virtual Private Network):
By using a vpn you will still be botting from your own pc, but simply the connection doesn't go directly to TQ. It will first go trough a server which means TQ will see this servers IP instead of yours.
However, here for you need at least 2 devices IF you want to run a clean conquer client meanwhile you are botting (1 connected trough a vpn and 1 connected the normal way).

All what these option above do is helping you to be able to bot form 1 IP while you can login your important accounts on a your own IP.

Though this is not needed, you can also just NOT log in any important accounts while you are botting with more then 3 accounts at a time logged in. You can also simply just bot, and when you feel like playing on your important accounts you just got to make sure you have stopped botting for a while before you log these characters in. Of course their logs will all show the same IP, but i barely have ever seen/heard that TQ traced back long enough to ban all characters ever logged in on 1 IP.

When you get reported for "multiple char botting":
TQ simply checks the characters ip, then find all characters logged in in a x amount of time before and after this report. Then ban all these characters.

Then again using only 1 IP requires you to bot smart and know your server well enough. I barely see anyone succeeding in this (besides me) haven't bene banned for 3 months if not more already on my botting chars

[Korvacs]

A VPS is absolutely the best way to bot, claiming that a VPN on its own is equal to a VPS is just ridiculous, a VPS has numerous advantages.

With a VPS its far easier to bot AND use your main at the same time, without having to (possibly) pay for a software vpn that is specific to an application, and even then theres every chance you will mess up and connect both your main and bots through the VPN.

You can leave a VPS on all night without having your computer turned on, therefore you can bot for longer, this applies only to people who cant leave their computer on all the time, and those worried about the cost of electricity. With a VPN you are required to have your computer on all the time.

You can bot on your VPS and use your computer at the same time, this mostly applies to people who have low/medium spec computers who want to play other games at the same time. You dont need to worry about it with a VPS. Unlike a VPN where you have to route your connection through software, and have bots running, and possibly clients if you want to go that way.

And then theres the fact that your connection is going to lag like a mofo cos your routing it half way around the world.

And all paid bots support stand alone so its hardly an argument against VPS nowadays.

So really theres no valid argument to use a VPN.

[BaussHacker]

The reason TheBoyWhoLost is not recommending a VPS, it's because of following:
1. He ain't got money for one.
2. He don't want to loose an argument.
3. He is stupid.

Now follow what Korvacs said as well.

[TheBoyWhoLost]

Originally Posted by Korvacs

A VPS is absolutely the best way to bot, claiming that a VPN on its own is equal to a VPS is just ridiculous, a VPS has numerous advantages.

With a VPS its far easier to bot AND use your main at the same time, without having to (possibly) pay for a software vpn that is specific to an application, and even then theres every chance you will mess up and connect both your main and bots through the VPN.

You can leave a VPS on all night without having your computer turned on, therefore you can bot for longer, this applies only to people who cant leave their computer on all the time, and those worried about the cost of electricity. With a VPN you are required to have your computer on all the time.

You can bot on your VPS and use your computer at the same time, this mostly applies to people who have low/medium spec computers who want to play other games at the same time. You dont need to worry about it with a VPS. Unlike a VPN where you have to route your connection through software, and have bots running, and possibly clients if you want to go that way.

And then theres the fact that your connection is going to lag like a mofo cos your routing it half way around the world.

And all paid bots support stand alone so its hardly an argument against VPS nowadays.

So really theres no valid argument to use a VPN.

I agree that a VPS is more user friendly, but with a good VPN you can almost be sure there is a help desk which can explain to you how to set it up. Also most good VPNs do have their guides for all OS's they can be used on.
As i already said a big minor for a VPN is that you need at least 2 devices in your own network. I thought it was speaking for itself that you could mess up and connect both trough your home IP.

Originally Posted by BaussHacker

The reason TheBoyWhoLost is not recommending a VPS

I'm not recommending anything at all. I'm only explaining the options.

[labtest12]

Originally Posted by TheBoyWhoLost

#2 is absolutely NOT needed.
#3 Again this is FALSE information. It's all about botting smart.

But yet again why a vps? A vpn could also do the trick. You should at least recommend both.

As it is smarter to do so, but then again not needed as long as you know what you are doing.

When you bot a couple thousand accounts over 4 servers a day all day you can say what you want.
#3 is very true because tq staff can and will look at their ip logs if they have to to find a fixed log in time and go from there. You can hide in your little mine and never come out with dc on all and still get banned. There utlimately is not "safe" way to bot. As long as there are people who report others, no one will ever be safe. (tq's "fixes" dont count)

#2 i would never use a VPS again as they are very unreliable. I have 6 different ips accross the US i log into through teamviewer and bot on them. Its much more reliable, and doesn't have the chance of sneaky ass throttling or hardrive expendeture because other people happen to be doing something at the same time that you are.
*EDIT* just saw you said VPN not VPS, To add to my statement, VPNs are even worse because they allow for inconsistency especially when you have only 1 computer.


There is also no true way to keep your main from getting in trouble; Only prevent him from getting banned. As long as you leave a dirty trail of money from your traders to your main you can get caught. I use 3 IPs primarily for trading.

1. I Log in traders
2. Combine all their items together
3. trade the items to another account on that ip
4. Log in a new unreleated trader on a dif ip
5. Trade IP 1 to IP2
6. Repeat step 3 and 4 for IP 2 to 3
7. Sell items for profits

About a month ago i got caught for the first time doing this method and all the people who had made contact with these accounts were banned(one was mass TQ bulker)
But because the style is so well played, tq can't necessarily say that the accounts trading the items were mine, so the people traded the items were merely innocent bystanders. Therefore they merely got botjailed. Case and point, it is very easy to avoid getting banned, but you still have a chance to get botjailed.

Oh on an interesting note. I've had accounts banned frrom over a month of dormat use. So no, your idea that tq wont ban you if you dont play while your bot is flawed. As long as you have accounts linked to that one specific ip you bot on, you will get your ass handed to you.

Question though, How many accounts do you bot on this server(s) that you haven't been banned on?

[TheBoyWhoLost]

Originally Posted by labtest12

When you bot a couple thousand accounts over 4 servers a day all day you can say what you want.
#3 is very true because tq staff can and will look at their ip logs if they have to to find a fixed log in time and go from there. You can hide in your little mine and never come out with dc on all and still get banned. There utlimately is not "safe" way to bot. As long as there are people who report others, no one will ever be safe. (tq's "fixes" dont count)

#2 i would never use a VPS again as they are very unreliable. I have 6 different ips accross the US i log into through teamviewer and bot on them. Its much more reliable, and doesn't have the chance of sneaky ass throttling or hardrive expendeture because other people happen to be doing something at the same time that you are.
*EDIT* just saw you said VPN not VPS, To add to my statement, VPNs are even worse because they allow for inconsistency especially when you have only 1 computer.


There is also no true way to keep your main from getting in trouble; Only prevent him from getting banned. As long as you leave a dirty trail of money from your traders to your main you can get caught. I use 3 IPs primarily for trading.

1. I Log in traders
2. Combine all their items together
3. trade the items to another account on that ip
4. Log in a new unreleated trader on a dif ip
5. Trade IP 1 to IP2
6. Repeat step 3 and 4 for IP 2 to 3
7. Sell items for profits

About a month ago i got caught for the first time doing this method and all the people who had made contact with these accounts were banned(one was mass TQ bulker)
But because the style is so well played, tq can't necessarily say that the accounts trading the items were mine, so the people traded the items were merely innocent bystanders. Therefore they merely got botjailed. Case and point, it is very easy to avoid getting banned, but you still have a chance to get botjailed.

Oh on an interesting note. I've had accounts banned frrom over a month of dormat use. So no, your idea that tq wont ban you if you dont play while your bot is flawed. As long as you have accounts linked to that one specific ip you bot on, you will get your ass handed to you.

Question though, How many accounts do you bot on this server(s) that you haven't been banned on?

Who ever bots with such a high amount of characters obviously doens't know how to make money with just 10/20 chars.
Then again TQ will only get on your ass if you DO NOT BOT SMART. Using so many accounts is one of the things you should changed to get TQ of your ass.
You got it all in your own hands to get reported or not.

I agree that dirty trails lead to a ban on the main. There for i have my own trading techniques and when to trade or when NOT to trade a specific account.

On the "interesting note": How many times did you get banned and about how many characters where banned BEFORE this month of doormat use.

Yes you will get your ass handed to you, if you do not bot smart. Ones again you got to know what you are doing and make sure you won't get reported or banned. But many people fail with this. Even my friends whom i tried to teach if get reported way more often then me (even when i used way more accounts).

[BaussHacker]

Obviously, higher amount of accounts = higher risk, but also more income..

[Nitroxide]

TheBoyWhoLost why do you persistently post untrue garbage, what did these people do so wrong for you to deliberately mislead them? IP relation... that's all, nothing to do with super 007 botting tactics.

I bet you're one of those people that used to stand around TC trying to sell awezomfg socket coordinates.

A VPS is by far the best way to mass bot.

[TheBoyWhoLost]

Originally Posted by BaussHacker

Obviously, higher amount of accounts = higher risk, but also more income..

Depends all on the way you bot. If you know how to make a good amount of money and you got an x amount of chars to do this with, im sure you cna double that x amount to do it better with indeed. But there are many people for example using 60 (CoGen) or 66 (CoAI) clientless accounts and not reaching even near what i get with my 15 chars. It's all about the person behind it.

Originally Posted by Nitroxide

TheBoyWhoLost why do you persistently post untrue garbage, what did these people do so wrong for you to deliberately mislead them? IP relation... that's all, nothing to do with super 007 botting tactics.

I bet you're one of those people that used to stand around TC trying to sell awezomfg socket coordinates.

A VPS is by far the best way to mass bot.

There is no untrue garbage, all i'm saying, if you know how not to get reported, or how not to get banned constantly, you can log in your more important accounts on the same IP without getting harmed. Of course using a VPN or even better a VPS would degrees the risks of them getting banned by A LOT! All i siad, it's not needed, it's options you can use. I don't use them and im still find (after all these years of botting). Seems like my 007 tactics work out fine for me

Again to MASS bot, but it totally is not needed to mass bot to get rich *points to the discussion about decreasing the amount of characters available trough clientless on bots*.

I recommend if you plan to mass bot then yes please do use either of the options to prevent yourself from getting caught on your important accounts.