[Release] Map coordinating system (full explanation)

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so many people including me are so confused with tq map coordinating system which is yes kinda weird, so i've spent couple of hours understanding it , so lets go

what will make this tutorial kinda harder is that i've picked up a confusing map to start with but that comes handy so you can figure out everything after this

normally you should expect it should be like figure 2 but it's actually you now think it could be figure 1 , right ?
X and Y axis are diagonal with separated origins (separated zero point or start point)
as shown at figure 3, the x axis start from top left ends at bottom right and y axis starts at the top right ends at bottom left
picture shows everything, that should be a valid explanation for this coordinating system , but as you can always get the coord of some point by connecting a perpendicular line to each axis to find out that everything

well what i just said was wrong, well not really but it's incomplete

lets have a look at the second picture

by extending each axis origin to get a common zero origin , which would fit figure 2

lets also mention something which is that when you try to tele with a pm/gm to 0,0 you can't see your blue thing on the mini map anymore, which explains the real and fake boundaries
real boundaries is what tq really use and fake boundaries are simply the boundaries you see on map (check the picture key table at bottom right)

im sorry for the thread being kinda messy but it's already complicated for me ^^
i think that could bug some algorithms but not others
i was just testing how a normal algorithm could work for it
it's simply you get all the coords around some coord
you don't want anyone to cast at x,y
so you check if the current equals to
x,y
x-1,y-1
x+1,y+1
x-1,y+1
x+1,y-1
x,y+1
x,y-1
x+1,y
x-1,y

applying that to the following picture with normal coordinating system
then applying it to tq coordinating system

it's the same, also the same at inline algo and A* algo

please feel free to correct any wrong information, i've figured all that out only since 3 hours so i may be wrong but i doubt that ^^

the old thread is at the spoiler, i was stupid tracing backward how the isometric coordination works, the thread turns out to be useless for trying to reinvent the wheel, please have a look at super aids links for better understanding of that system
sorry

Originally Posted by Super Aids

It's actually nothing complex.

Isometric graphics in video games and pixel art - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Super Aids]

It's actually nothing complex.

Isometric graphics in video games and pixel art - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Originally Posted by Super Aids

It's actually nothing complex.

Isometric graphics in video games and pixel art - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i feel super stupid for trying to reinventing the wheel :\

[LordGragen.]

Originally Posted by go for it

i feel super stupid for trying to reinventing the wheel :\

you should be proud of your self, you know you did this by your own, and not many people take there time thinking about how all this stuff works, i will be honest with you by looking at your code i understand nothing because my level at coding or directions and stuff are not high as yours, put i am hoping in few years when collage is over, i am hoping to understand all this. so thank you for taking your time and doing this.

[_DreadNought_]

Originally Posted by LordGragen.

you should be proud of your self, you know you did this by your own, and not many people take there time thinking about how all this stuff works, i will be honest with you by looking at your code i understand nothing because my level at coding or directions and stuff are not high as yours, put i am hoping in few years when collage is over, i am hoping to understand all this. so thank you for taking your time and doing this.

What does coding have to do with this? It's mathematics.

@OP: Did you draw those pics? ;o

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Originally Posted by LordGragen.

you should be proud of your self, you know you did this by your own, and not many people take there time thinking about how all this stuff works, i will be honest with you by looking at your code i understand nothing because my level at coding or directions and stuff are not high as yours, put i am hoping in few years when collage is over, i am hoping to understand all this. so thank you for taking your time and doing this.

thanks buddy, yeah i feel stupid for reinventing the wheel but i don't regret working my mind out before google
plus check ur inbox got something to tell you

Originally Posted by _DreadNought_

@OP: Did you draw those pics? ;o

yup could i make it to drawing contest ?

[Super Aids]

Actually for things like this is not a dumb idea to reinvent the wheel since it has to do with mathematics, thus you may be able to find a better way to do it or another way that you're more comfortable with. On the other hand it also helps you with your math skills.