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08/25/2011, 01:09
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Alright, time to finally settle down onto a programming language (Poll)
I've tested out a lot of languages.
A lot.
But I hate them all. Why? I can never get any better than the basics on each one.
Java Story:
I basically made an attempt to understand Java at like age 13 to code a runescape server. Looked at the code once and never returned.
Python Story:
I first started out on python and learned the basics. I eventually coded a credit card generator (that gave a working credit card number based on which card carrier you chose, just no CSV). Realizing that I now know the basics, I then tried PyGame a slightly more advanced way of coding with Python. Couldn't understand one single bit of it.
C++ Story:
I then moved on to C++, the god of languages (so people will say). I again, learned the basics and eventually obtained the skill to program a working calculator, no GUI. After doing that, I then tried to program something else. I tried to port my Text-Line RPG from Python into C++... to no avail. Couldn't understand any bit of it, especially the errors I got and how to fix them.
C# Story:
I then finally moved on to C#, the framework god. I actually started out with NPC Programming. After "mastering" NPC Programming, I then went on to do other things like add a good/evil system to the game, just basic stuff like that. I learned the basics like Output/Input, Saving/Creating files (not reading them though), How to store variables via classes, I even learned a very basic halfway working Messaging Client/Server using Winsock. (I code make it send/receive messages but once you sent a message you had to wait until you got a message back to type one. If you received a message while typing a message, you wouldn't get that message until you submitted your message) Unforunately, everything I've done in C# has all been searched. How did I learn to make NPCs? ctrl + f and read how every other NPC is done. How did I learn to use Winsock? Copied InfamousNoone's video tutorial and paused it on the winsock explanation. How did I learn to code Mana into a source? Searched HP was done and copied that and found out the flag and replaced the flag for the packet. I can say I have the most talent in C#, but none of this was learned on my own aside from input/output and loops.
So what should I do? Pick a language from the poll and help me decided. Post comments on giving me tips on how not to quit the current language and keep pushing forward! Thank you.
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08/25/2011, 02:04
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C# is powerful while allowing rapid development, using the .Net framework you can have a server (for example) up in a matter of hours if you know what your doing.
Java is alright if you want to do cross-platform stuff although your still probably better off using C# or C++, Python is slow and has major threading issues, C++ is great if you have the large amount of time it requires to develop software in, but then theres the library issue which makes the whole thing abit of a nightmare at times.
These are my opinions of course, though alot of my opinions are based on material ive read.
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08/25/2011, 02:13
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Delphi is far more amazing than C++ at RAD. It's pretty much .NET, but native. So, I really wouldn't make fun of it 
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08/25/2011, 02:34
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Originally Posted by InfamousNoone
Delphi is far more amazing than C++ at RAD. It's pretty much .NET, but native. So, I really wouldn't make fun of it |
Oh wow, I truly had no idea! I apologize for being ignorant DX
One question, what does RAD stand for?
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08/25/2011, 02:40
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Rapid application development.
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08/25/2011, 11:25
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Learn Brain ****.
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08/27/2011, 15:10
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Seriously, you learned about operators and variables in C++, then you moved to an RPG. Stuff doesn`t work like that. You need to learn about other concepts, start with the C part, learn about structs, arrays, I/O, pointers, etc, then move on to OOP concepts, there`s still a lot of missing skills in your set.
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08/29/2011, 19:52
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Originally Posted by KraHen
Seriously, you learned about operators and variables in C++, then you moved to an RPG. Stuff doesn`t work like that. You need to learn about other concepts, start with the C part, learn about structs, arrays, I/O, pointers, etc, then move on to OOP concepts, there`s still a lot of missing skills in your set.
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Like I said it wasn't a full, 3D RPG, it was just a text-line RPG using basic data storage and loops and cases and mathematics. I agree though, there is a ton missing from my skill set but I just can't grasp the concepts. Structs? I/O? Pointers? Yeah, I am missing a TON.
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08/29/2011, 20:00
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Originally Posted by xBlackPlagu3x
Like I said it wasn't a full, 3D RPG, it was just a text-line RPG using basic data storage and loops and cases and mathematics. I agree though, there is a ton missing from my skill set but I just can't grasp the concepts. Structs? I/O? Pointers? Yeah, I am missing a TON.
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Lol @ Working with C++ and not knowing structs.
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08/30/2011, 00:08
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If you can`t grasp the concepts you either lack basic IT knowledge, or you aren`t able to think in code. This thread is pointless, you really don`t need a poll to help you choose where to settle down, you didn`t get into anything but a bit of C#. I suggest you to continue working with that, and hopefully you`ll get used to the way of thinking programming requires.
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08/31/2011, 00:04
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Originally Posted by KraHen
If you can`t grasp the concepts you either lack basic IT knowledge, or you aren`t able to think in code. This thread is pointless, you really don`t need a poll to help you choose where to settle down, you didn`t get into anything but a bit of C#. I suggest you to continue working with that, and hopefully you`ll get used to the way of thinking programming requires.
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It's not either, I honestly think it's my lack of abstract thinking. I can code with HTML just fine, same with CSS and even PHP now. I can even code with AHK which is a scripting language for AutoHotKey but I'm pro with it. It's just when it comes to advanced stuff like using dlls and using wrappers and methods.
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08/31/2011, 16:42
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Originally Posted by xBlackPlagu3x
It's not either, I honestly think it's my lack of abstract thinking. I can code with HTML just fine, same with CSS and even PHP now. I can even code with AHK which is a scripting language for AutoHotKey but I'm pro with it. It's just when it comes to advanced stuff like using dlls and using wrappers and methods.
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Well put up some list and take one point after one.
Like this:
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08/31/2011, 19:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KraHen
Seriously, you learned about operators and variables in C++, then you moved to an RPG. Stuff doesn`t work like that. You need to learn about other concepts, start with the C part, learn about structs, arrays, I/O, pointers, etc, then move on to OOP concepts, there`s still a lot of missing skills in your set.
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Really? I must've done this backwards then. I learned the OOP stuff way before I learned the I/O and pointer-logic.
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08/31/2011, 20:23
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Originally Posted by InfamousNoone
Really? I must've done this backwards then. I learned the OOP stuff way before I learned the I/O and pointer-logic.
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First thing we had in college was OOP. 
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08/31/2011, 22:22
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Originally Posted by InfamousNoone
Really? I must've done this backwards then. I learned the OOP stuff way before I learned the I/O and pointer-logic.
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I began with oop too. My point wasn`t the order.
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