Tired of those stupid errors? - Help is here! (C#)

[InfamousNoone]

Originally Posted by Cømbat

What your saying is it be better if i just read a c# guide book and google tutorials for it?
I have c# c++ java script html php books that i sometimes read...
Wicth is better Teacher Or Self Learn?

Lets put it like this;
I'm self taught, Dan's self taught, Sparkie's self taught, Ultimation's self taught, Saint's self taught, Caffeine's self taught, the list goes on. You should know all these names.

Learning how to teach yourself is a very crucial skill in programming.

[.Ryu]

Originally Posted by InfamousNoone

Lets put it like this;
I'm self taught, Dan's self taught, Sparkie's self taught, Ultimation's self taught, Saint's self taught, Caffeine's self taught, the list goes on. You should know all these names.

Learning how to teach yourself is a very crucial skill in programming.

This is very interesting... i should ethier self learn or get a teacher i might go with self learn but im not sure....

[_Emme_]

Originally Posted by InfamousNoone

Regardless of the such it shouldn't be posted here.

Hybrid (yes I'm speaking in 3rd person, hi) disapproves of this topic and thinks people are better off attempting to self teach themselves using web-guides, and books.

As, I forget if it was Sparkie or Korvacs who initially said this; Or maybe it was even Saint:
You practice bad habits in your code, and then in your releases, you pass these habits on to other coders. As they develop in programming, they retain and sometimes will rely on these habits making programmers who're capable and have efficient and tidy-programming styles have to beat out their old-bad habits.

Don't take this as a personal attack, it's just my two cents that you shouldn't be teaching someone else.

Edit:
Here's an example,

Although I can't guarantee you coded this in a .NET language (C#, VB.NET, etc.) if this was coded in any other language than C/C++, you shouldn't call yourself a programmer.

That statement was made atleast 6 months ago, and last time I contributed to this forum was over a year ago. I developed so much since then.

I'm not really following what you're saying about the FPS-anticheat, as some of you know there are no way to stop cheaters in Counter-Strike for example, their "Valve Anti-Cheat" fail really hard and doesn't prevent any cheat really.

There is a anti-cheat program, EAC (Easy Anti Cheat), and my program works the same but a lil better: Look if any program is hooked with the process, if it is it searched for if this is any known cheat. It also take printscreens on a random interval and upload these to a database which your enemy can enter by a website and watch.


Anyhow, I developed alot and I believe it's better to have somebody explain it clear for you how and why you do certain things.


Peace,






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Originally Posted by InfamousNoone

Lets put it like this;
I'm self taught, Dan's self taught, Sparkie's self taught, Ultimation's self taught, Saint's self taught, Caffeine's self taught, the list goes on. You should know all these names.

Learning how to teach yourself is a very crucial skill in programming.

It would take longer time to learn everything by yourself, without using google or books at all. Basically you're saying you learn better without a hand, so why do they put teachers at school?

Well, what I'm saying is I offer my help to people who is intrested to help, you can look most of it up on google but I'll explain and form after the customer, and take him/her the path he/she is intrested in.

[InfamousNoone]

Originally Posted by EmmeTheCoder

That statement was made atleast 6 months ago, and last time I contributed to this forum was over a year ago. I developed so much since then.
Contributed? Developed? Au contrarie. We've had this discussion, I hate repeating myself.

I'm not really following what you're saying about the FPS-anticheat, as some of you know there are no way to stop cheaters in Counter-Strike for example, their "Valve Anti-Cheat" fail really hard and doesn't prevent any cheat really.
This is what I mean, do you even know I'm saying it should only be coded in C/C++? You have no idea what you're t alking about.

There is a anti-cheat program, EAC (Easy Anti Cheat), and my program works the same but a lil better: Look if any program is hooked with the process, if it is it searched for if this is any known cheat. It also take printscreens on a random interval and upload these to a database which your enemy can enter by a website and watch.
Emphasis on "known" what if it isn't? And also, printing screens of an end-user and storing it in a database without their consent is illegal and an invasion of privacy.

Anyhow, I developed alot and I believe it's better to have somebody explain it clear for you how and why you do certain things.

It would take longer time to learn everything by yourself, without using google or books at all. Basically you're saying you learn better without a hand, so why do they put teachers at school?
To get kids involved in it. You really won't succeed in programming just based on an education in school unless your actually practically practicing programming at home. If you're particularly interested in programming you will force yourself to learn on your own and exceed what they're teaching you.

Well, what I'm saying is I offer my help to people who is intrested to help, you can look most of it up on google but I'll explain and form after the customer, and take him/her the path he/she is intrested in.

As for your last part, that's what programming forums are for, lol. People need to learn other resources other than E*PvP. Being able to teach yourself is something you absolutely need to be able to do if you plan on being successful in programming.

[~Yuki~]

Originally Posted by EmmeTheCoder

It would take longer time to learn everything by yourself, without using google or books at all. Basically you're saying you learn better without a hand, so why do they put teachers at school?

Well, what I'm saying is I offer my help to people who is intrested to help, you can look most of it up on google but I'll explain and form after the customer, and take him/her the path he/she is intrested in.

They put teachers on school to teach kids/students how they can selflearn stuff.

[_tao4229_]

They put teachers in schools because the government forces them to.
How many kids going through school actually can remember/apply things after they leave the learning environment?

End of story.

[cronoszeu]

tao4229 see my subname

And yes I learned in school most of them and I bet you can`t learn some tricks and things from books.


Regards

[Korvacs]

Firstly, ive reported you for posting this thread because there is a sticky for it, which you have, as i understand it, read and ignored:



You of all people as a previous moderator should understand the rules of this forum. I have requested that this be closed, please post in the relevant sticky.

Originally Posted by InfamousNoone

Regardless of the such it shouldn't be posted here.

Hybrid (yes I'm speaking in 3rd person, hi) disapproves of this topic and thinks people are better off attempting to self teach themselves using web-guides, and books.

As, I forget if it was Sparkie or Korvacs who initially said this; Or maybe it was even Saint:
You practice bad habits in your code, and then in your releases, you pass these habits on to other coders. As they develop in programming, they retain and sometimes will rely on these habits making programmers who're capable and have efficient and tidy-programming styles have to beat out their old-bad habits.

Don't take this as a personal attack, it's just my two cents that you shouldn't be teaching someone else.

It was me as i recall, speaking in the rather large thread which was one of emme's releases which was full of bad coding or something or other.

And i agree, Emme you are not someone who should be teaching other people how to code, and while you may very well have developed in the past 6 months, you are still building on broken foundations, which will mean that you will still pass on bad practices.

As for self-taught/course-taught, in my experience courses mainly (when it comes to language, programming or otherwise) teach you the basics, and then rules which apply to that language, and then how to expand upon those rules to encompass near enough every aspect of that language. If you are self-taught you do exactly the same, you understand the rules of the language, when things should be used, when things should not be used and you can expand that to every aspect of your program.

I see no difference, except that one costs a hell of a lot more than the other.

[InfamousNoone]

Referring to being a phone technician -- or a technician for anything hands on.
Kinesthetic learning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's mandatory to be ready in the hands on enviornment and have you showing someone on the actual main device what's what compared to model. Therefore yes, learning from a teacher and not books will be more beneficial for visual aid in the real-world for example.

Referring to programming.
Visual learning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Programming, which is not done physically is contrary to this. You don't need someone pointing things out to you, because a diagram will be sufficient as everything is done virtually, not physically.

[tanelipe]

#Closed, not private server nor conquer related, as you stated.