Conquer PServer API (concept)

[Lateralus]

It's a great idea, but due to the lack of active and free programmers it won't work. I don't mind helping people, but as far as giving away anything extremely useful like this to the general community, no way (if it was open source); if you're charging, the general population won't be able to implement or make use of an API or the plugins, and the actual programmers would rather code it themselves to have more control over it (in my case, at least).

Sidenote - kind of related: I've thought about doing packet structures for every version and having a module to support them, but I dismissed the idea because I was (and still am) focused on 4267 development.

[2slam]

well i saw a pserver getting face book poker game linked with cps in accounts they win/lose thier cps

[×Holo]

^ This, made my day.

[Kiyono]

Originally Posted by Korvacs

the previous one died of death with a lack of development

I have been around for years but I've never seen that project.

[Korvacs]

Originally Posted by Kiyono

I have been around for years but I've never seen that project.

Nope, you wouldnt have as you werent involved in it and it wasnt based on epvpers.

[InfamousNoone]

Originally Posted by Korvacs

This isnt the first time that a private server api of this scale was conceived, the previous one died of death with a lack of development and to be honest i suspect this one will go down the same route. The problem being that at the end of the day you'll get a handful of people willing to contribute and then hundreds wanting to just download the finished product. Theres no reward at the end as those handful of developers can already do everything that the api will deliver so theres no real drive to complete it.

Perfect example within last day of
"I don't get it, spoon feed me everything"

[Mr_PoP]

yeah it would be a good Idea but who are willing to really participate!?

@off topic

Originally Posted by InfamousNoone

There's a lot of talk, but nothing done.
-> I mean yeah, people are like I want to learn how to code! but they don't really have the initiative to do it. Coding isn't something you decide one to do and you're miraculously good at it. It takes time and understanding, it's something you have to enjoy doing or without proper incentive you'll lack motivation. I mean, the one person who I've seen over come this hurdle is Mr. Pop. Like, holy ****, that guy has worked his *** off.

thanks, I appreciate that you finally changed your thoughts about me ^_^!

[Ultimation]

Alot of people come to me, and say hey i want to learn c#, and i ask the same question, why?

they always reply, so i can build a conquer server. so i sit there and try to explain, coding isnt something u learn over night, you have to understand what your doing and how it works. that takes time and practise. try building something smaller like a simple notepad app, calculator app, word app, then progress to a simple chat app 1 step at a time. they agree.. so off they go.


2 days later they come back ok ive done that im ready for conquer. im like ?!?!?! seriously no way, you mean you have googled copied someone elses code, not understood it. and think you are ready.
alot of the time you cant seem to get into there head, learning to program following co protocols isnt the best way to learn programming your gonna pickup a bunch of bad habbits. ( i know personally)

the biggest problem is. people just dont want to learn, they want to jump straight into it.


sorry guys, concept is great, the support and stucture its going to need will require alot of work. especially with 1000000 people saying they want to learn with it. lol.

I've seen over come this hurdle is Mr. Pop. Like, holy ****, that guy has worked his *** off.

wtf... and me???!?!?!?!

[InfamousNoone]

You already know that I considered you a good coder before I started learning programming. You and Steve were two of my big inspirations :P

[_DreadNought_]

Originally Posted by InfamousNoone

You already know that I considered you a good coder before I started learning programming. You and Steve were two of my big inspirations :P

You were a huge inspirational figure from about a week into when I was learning C#, Ultimation came a little later, but the work both of you two have done is huge motivation for me to keep learning C# and other languages.

<3

[bone-you]

Won't work just because of how this community works. Proof here:

I had a similar system designed in my proxy. Not a single person picked up on it even though it had the potential to be the most powerful proxy out at the time. The design is fantastic. I had always thought of doing it in a pserver, but had never acted on it because I knew few would ever even take interest in it let alone code something for it.