The future for Warzone/EO/Inf/PO ect.

[SevenMacElevens]

Will cheating in COD/WZ be a thing of the past? With a new anti cheat system coming out with Vanguard will cheat devs beable to work around it? Does any one have any intel on the anti cheat features? Will all these top providers like EO and Inf be down for good? Thoughts and opinions please.

[DMUonaFFAR]

It's definitely going to be different yeah.

These are the end times of of Wild Wild Warzone.

[jmb195]

Originally Posted by SevenMacElevens

Will cheating in COD/WZ be a thing of the past? With a new anti cheat system coming out with Vanguard will cheat devs beable to work around it? Does any one have any intel on the anti cheat features? Will all these top providers like EO and Inf be down for good? Thoughts and opinions please.

Going to keep it real, I don't believe it's a thing of the past for COD/WZ. As many have mentioned, they use a in house AC which doubtfully won't see any improvement near other high end AC like Battleye or EAC.

I think it would be cool if it was going to be that crazy good, flush out the code paste providers but ultimately imo it won't happen.

EO will still be around doubt you'll see them going anywhere. They have enough resources to bring in those that can keep cash flow coming in and cheats being pushed out regardless of the AC.

[GrawPoint]

I think many providers will abandon/stop support if strong AC changes happen. If it's something like Valorant's AC most providers will most likely quit, increase their product price to ridiculous amounts, or go private/slotted.

[DMUonaFFAR]

Originally Posted by GrawPoint

I think many providers will abandon/stop support if strong AC changes happen. If it's something like Valorant's AC most providers will most likely quit, increase their product price to ridiculous amounts, or go private/slotted.

That's another thing too...the price is almost CERTAINLY gonna go up..from every provider.

Many "Casual" cheaters and people who actually work to pay for their cheats, as opposed to, ahem, other stuff will probably quit too as the cost of cheating increases, especially with a good anti cheat and presumably quicker HWID bans.

[Exodiasgodwz]

Originally Posted by jmb195

Going to keep it real, I don't believe it's a thing of the past for COD/WZ. As many have mentioned, they use a in house AC which doubtfully won't see any improvement near other high end AC like Battleye or EAC.

I think it would be cool if it was going to be that crazy good, flush out the code paste providers but ultimately imo it won't happen.

EO will still be around doubt you'll see them going anywhere. They have enough resources to bring in those that can keep cash flow coming in and cheats being pushed out regardless of the AC.

It is rather ignorant to think that Activision's inhouse anti cheat is nothing compared to Battleye or EAC and I think it is dangerously arrogant for cheat company to underestimate them.

When you talk about resources, Activision is a multi billion dollar company. Despite the BS going on, they have more then enough resources especially if their golden streamers / content creators are leaving the game.

Some credible leakers are already saying their Anticheat will be karnel level and with machine learning AI based detection.

Im not saying WZ will be completely free of cheaters. Just like any game with EAC/Battleye/VAC, there will still be cheaters however the preventive measures are there and cheaters do get banned very fast.

As of now, Cheaters simply create new accounts, Spoofers and EO. Now the problem is not EO, the problem is the spoofers and how easy to buy a verified account and if you have 10 account, maybe 1 will get perma banned and the rest you just need to wait out Shadowban period.

Perhaps with the new anticheat there wont be any shadowban, if you cheat and you get detected you get insta banned and all your other accounts relating to your HWID get perma banned straight away. If your account is new and you have 10KD with 90% headshot you get banned straight away. Spoofers are getting hit so theres no way to change ur HWID other than to buy new hardwares. These are PROBABLY the preventive measures coming.


Will rage cheats like EO get detected? for sure. They have always been hit on a regular basis since day one. Nobody uses EO on their main. It is a guarantee BAN and only rage cheaters with 100 accounts uses them. Can EO get around anticheat? of course they can but then again the problem is not EO, the problem is spoofers/accounts which activision is targeting now.

But you will never know.. maybe you cant even use EO anymore (i hope so)

Now is time for elite devs to shine

[SevenMacElevens]

Its definitely going to be Interesting to see the outcome. I wonder if people who are already HWID banned from raging can play again with the new WZ. It's also going to be fun to watch all these suspicious "pro streamers" try to drop high kill game play lol

[Afro2G]

To be honest unless the new anti cheat is not like riot Vanguard I think that **** wouldn’t make a huge difference.

[GrawPoint]

Originally Posted by SevenMacElevens

Its definitely going to be Interesting to see the outcome. I wonder if people who are already HWID banned from raging can play again with the new WZ. It's also going to be fun to watch all these suspicious "pro streamers" try to drop high kill game play lol

Indeed it's interesting, we'll which streamers will suddenly suck *** and can't get past 10 kills lol. Even though the cheating ones probably have their private cheats and makers ready for it.

Originally Posted by Afro2G

To be honest unless the new anti cheat is not like riot Vanguard I think that **** wouldn’t make a huge difference.

I disagree, any Anticheat is better than what we currently have in Warzone honestly. Look at games that use BattleEye and EAC, it's rare to come across rage cheaters let alone as much as you do in warzone for example. Especially in EAC games, rage cheaters will not survive, an account I had on Apex got insta banned after a game of 11 kills on a low level, another account where I had legit settings but with head lock aimbot got banned in 3 days.

[SevenMacElevens]

[QUOTE=GrawPoint;38859932]Indeed it's interesting, we'll which streamers will suddenly suck *** and can't get past 10 kills lol. Even though the cheating ones probably have their private cheats and makers ready for it.



Exactly correct. Now my point is how is this new anti cheat going to apply to these pro streamers who basically showcase warzone with high kill game play that everyone wants to watch. Will they be banned? I'm not going to mention any names we all know who they are. Will there be another white list? These streamers had silent aim privately way before the public did!

[DMUonaFFAR]

Originally Posted by SevenMacElevens

Its definitely going to be Interesting to see the outcome. I wonder if people who are already HWID banned from raging can play again with the new WZ. It's also going to be fun to watch all these suspicious "pro streamers" try to drop high kill game play lol

I highly doubt this.

It's a new map, but the game is still the same game on the same engine (Warzone)

It will be all 3 games weapons integrated, MW, CW, VG, unless they are completely removing MW weapons from the equation which I hope not?

[GrawPoint]

Originally Posted by DMUonaFFAR

unless they are completely removing MW weapons from the equation which I hope not?

I wouldn't be surprised honestly, with how much effort they're putting on killing MW guns with so many unnecessary changes and nerfs. They wanna push CW weapons more into the meta and of course, more bundles for people to buy, once the VG is released, the same will probably happen to CW guns. Let's just hope they don't actually remove MW guns because I absolutely love them, even tho they're significantly at a disadvantage compared to CW guns, they're very balanced.

[Agrezion]

Originally Posted by GrawPoint

Indeed it's interesting, we'll which streamers will suddenly suck *** and can't get past 10 kills lol. Even though the cheating ones probably have their private cheats and makers ready for it.

I disagree, any Anticheat is better than what we currently have in Warzone honestly. Look at games that use BattleEye and EAC, it's rare to come across rage cheaters let alone as much as you do in warzone for example. Especially in EAC games, rage cheaters will not survive, an account I had on Apex got insta banned after a game of 11 kills on a low level, another account where I had legit settings but with head lock aimbot got banned in 3 days.

Well the difference is that those games (Apex and PUBG) have a decent stats & report system. After X reports you get automatically queued for inspection. Especially Apex memes a lot around with flagging devices. COD doesnt seem to give a lot of ***** about it.

That just proofs that you dont just need a good Anti Cheat like EAC/BE but also a decent report/stats system like FairFight (when it was somewhat good in BF times).

[SevenMacElevens]

I thought I'd leave this here. There's already a provider stating they're going to reverse the anti cheat as soon as it releases. Guess the cat and mouse game continues on...

[Xenos]

[QUOTE=SevenMacElevens;38860589Guess the cat and mouse game continues on...[/QUOTE]

It will never end lol