Understanding HWID ban/ shadow bans

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by Wtbybon

Does buying the full game get rid of shadowban still?

Not anymore.

[DMUonaFFAR]

Originally Posted by convict-xo

The real question here is what provider is getting ya'll SB lol

Nah that's not really the "real question" because it's not even providers - Activision is currently going shadowban crazy and even legit players are getting hit by their SB madness.

Originally Posted by GillNI

Is there two types of shadow bans?

1 of my friends is shadow banned but can use other accounts on his PC.

My other friend is shadow banned and every account (no perms bans as yet) he access's gets shadow banned.

Yes to answer your question

The first scenario your friend is only shadowbanned on one account and he can play on others

The second scenario your friend is HWID flagged unfortunately.

They apparently do "Shadowban Flags"

Originally Posted by 0x41^4

Not anymore.

Wait wait wait, hold up, that USED to be a thing?!?!?!

[0x41^4]

Originally Posted by DMUonaFFAR

Nah that's not really the "real question" because it's not even providers - Activision is currently going shadowban crazy and even legit players are getting hit by their SB madness.



Yes to answer your question

The first scenario your friend is only shadowbanned on one account and he can play on others

The second scenario your friend is HWID flagged unfortunately.

They apparently do "Shadowban Flags"



Wait wait wait, hold up, that USED to be a thing?!?!?!

Yea. When MW19/WZ first came out, for about a year, if you got SB'd you could just buy the full game or upgrade to a better edition and it would remove the shadow and keep you safe from other bans.

[DMUonaFFAR]

Originally Posted by 0x41^4

Yea. When MW19/WZ first came out, for about a year, if you got SB'd you could just buy the full game or upgrade to a better edition and it would remove the shadow and keep you safe from other bans.

@ please revert back to this lmao

Edit: Wow that's a real user lol

[DMUonaFFAR]

Originally Posted by MrEsDe

Bro !!! I just don't get it anymore.

I am seeing here cases like mine, that means:
1. I have never had a PB this this PC
2. First ban last year for using unlock all Tool and UAV permanent (wanted not risking with cheats), which by the way in the first days of 2022 there was no longer SB.
3. I have played more than 1 week without anything and everything has gone great, ping great, except for the kills due to colleagues with little help....Esp,AB
4. Day 14.01 I chose a provider from the 3 best around here... ''external cheat'' and after 30 minutes BOOM....SB... Guys, no AB used, only Walls and in a very discreet way...
5. I immediately made a fresh account, to see if my PC is flagged, and guess what: I'm playing with this new fresh acc since 14.01 without problems, but without using anything...

?Now what the hell has happened?
?Where is the problem?

A: If my PC was flagged, I shouldn't have been able to play right away with a fresh new account, right?
B: If the provider's cheat is external, it shouldn't have detected me, right?

Can someone explain this?

Because I'm putting cases on all you bitches. Huh.

Who's UA tool did you use and what AUAV tool did you use?

This is basically what's going on with a lot of people these days though, some accounts get shadowbanned (sometimes instantly, even before a match) while other accounts are fine and can be played on with or without cheats, seems theres no REAL rhyme or reason to it.

But I think they are flagging certain PCs/HWID for shadowbans, like "hey give that guy a few random shadowbans because he MAY be a cheater, but we don't really know" type of thing.

Your case is almost exactly like mine though I was PB'd because of the camo tool.

Edit: Also lol, You motherfuckers will be playing basketball in Pelican Bay when I get finished with you lmao

[Martinius88]

Can somebody tell me please if I am shadow banned or what. I don't use any cheetos but..on my main account I stupidly bought max level weapons for vanguard. No issues for a few days, then I had a great game sniping, high headshots in a low kd lobby (quite a few death coms calling me a cheat etc), I then got shadow banned, ping straight to 350).

I purchased other accounts.... but they let me play a game or two then shadow banned too. I went to login to one of the accounts I bought today (login from.phone to battlenet and it was perma banned) so I tried to login to another of the account that hasn't been anywhere near my PC and that was already perma banned.

My question is... Will my main account get a perma ban? And how likely is hwid ban?

[DMUonaFFAR]

Originally Posted by Martinius88

Can somebody tell me please if I am shadow banned or what. I don't use any cheetos but..on my main account I stupidly bought max level weapons for vanguard. No issues for a few days, then I had a great game sniping, high headshots in a low kd lobby (quite a few death coms calling me a cheat etc), I then got shadow banned, ping straight to 350).

I purchased other accounts.... but they let me play a game or two then shadow banned too. I went to login to one of the accounts I bought today (login from.phone to battlenet and it was perma banned) so I tried to login to another of the account that hasn't been anywhere near my PC and that was already perma banned.

My question is... Will my main account get a perma ban? And how likely is hwid ban?

Sounds like you're HWID banned if you're catching multiple perma's

STOP logging in on your main ASAP.

[Martinius88]

Originally Posted by DMUonaFFAR

Sounds like you're HWID banned if you're catching multiple perma's

STOP logging in on your main ASAP.

Really hope not.

I had another account that I tried yesterday, not a purchased account but an old account that's legit never had cheetos or unlocks. It got shadow banned after 1 game, so i logged into battlenet today (on a browser from phone) and that account isn't perma banned like the others. I am thinking the others that I purchased were all just dodgy rubbish.

What do you think?

[DMUonaFFAR]

Originally Posted by Martinius88

Really hope not.

I had another account that I tried yesterday, not a purchased account but an old account that's legit never had cheetos or unlocks. It got shadow banned after 1 game, so i logged into battlenet today (on a browser from phone) and that account isn't perma banned like the others. I am thinking the others that I purchased were all just dodgy rubbish.

What do you think?

Just play on that one then, I still say stop logging into your main on that computer regardless.

[Tdggle6122]

@ @ Sorry to tag you boys but whats the consensus on chair use after a shadowban has been lifted? Is it not recommended to use chair on this account anymore? Thanks

[pimpin216]

Hey,

I was permanently banned on my main account after using an unlock all tool after a game update occurred. After being permanently banned I went onto my alt account and then was shadow banned for 7 days. Today was the unban date for the account, I played numerous games and had no issues whatsoever. I understand that when a shadow banned account injects something, it is banned again. Does the re-ban apply to the account if you were to use an unlock all tool on it? And if it does, would I just have to simply make a new account or even purchase an account that's aged in order to use the unlock all tool without an issue? I haven't really seen much posts regarding tools, only pure injections for external cheats, so sorry if I missed it. I would just like some clarification if possible.

[PurpleFish]

Originally Posted by 0x41^4

If you make a new account, it'll be instantly shadow banned.
After that, you can wait 7-14 days and play again without cheats OR you can use a spoofer, make a new account, and cheat.

You've been a real champ in answering a lot of questions about this subject.

My specific case:
- Got permanently banned (WZ/MW) using only ESP (Tuesday) on my main the very first time I tried to cheat just to see what the fuzz was about (lol.).
- After being banned I did a clean Windows install (format / reinstall)
- Created a new BNET and COD account, haven't linked them yet
- Haven't played the game yet

What do I do next, can I just wait 7-14 days? Do I need to start the game with my new account at least once to get the shadow ban period running? If I start the game with my new account, does that account get perm banned or just shadow banned for 7-14 days?


I went through like 10 pages of this thread but couldn't find an answer to these questions specifically.

[DMUonaFFAR]

Originally Posted by pimpin216

Hey,

I was permanently banned on my main account after using an unlock all tool after a game update occurred. After being permanently banned I went onto my alt account and then was shadow banned for 7 days. Today was the unban date for the account, I played numerous games and had no issues whatsoever. I understand that when a shadow banned account injects something, it is banned again. Does the re-ban apply to the account if you were to use an unlock all tool on it? And if it does, would I just have to simply make a new account or even purchase an account that's aged in order to use the unlock all tool without an issue? I haven't really seen much posts regarding tools, only pure injections for external cheats, so sorry if I missed it. I would just like some clarification if possible.

Permanent bans are permanent bans. So there is no "re-ban".

Also, you can definitely inject cheats using shadowbanned accounts where the SB has lifted...not being able to inject successfully on a lifted shadowban account is not a thing


But anyway, nearly all unlock all tools are all scuffed right now and almost always are gonna lead to a ban eventually.

Originally Posted by PurpleFish

You've been a real champ in answering a lot of questions about this subject.

My specific case:
- Got permanently banned (WZ/MW) using only ESP (Tuesday) on my main the very first time I tried to cheat just to see what the fuzz was about (lol.).
- After being banned I did a clean Windows install (format / reinstall)
- Created a new BNET and COD account, haven't linked them yet
- Haven't played the game yet

What do I do next, can I just wait 7-14 days? Do I need to start the game with my new account at least once to get the shadow ban period running? If I start the game with my new account, does that account get perm banned or just shadow banned for 7-14 days?


I went through like 10 pages of this thread but couldn't find an answer to these questions specifically.

Nobody can really tell you until you do it.

You're going to have to start Warzone and see what happens to your new account.

Also there is no point or reason to be waiting 7-14 days unless you have already tried to queue on an account and received a 350ms shadowban ping.

You received a permaban on your main

and if you only used ESP and were permanently banned it means the cheat is DETECTED - would you mind letting us know what cheat you used since that is concerning?


So there is no reason to be waiting 7-14 days now because you're not waiting for anything. The 7-14 days people speak about waiting out, are waiting out their own already initiated by the game shadowbans, they're not simply waiting 7-14 days to play the game again without receiving a shadowban.

You basically have to sign up with your new account, def don't use a botted account you bought from ANYONE, and honestly for this scenario don't even use an online number service, literally just use a family members/friends/signig other etc etc. You only need that code once.

So make a new account, use a REAL email and REAL phone number of someone you know - then launch Warzone with no tools or cheats and play.

If you are auto 350ms pinged, or 350ms pinged after ONE match. You are HWID banned.


If you can continue to keep playing with no signs of anything, you're fine.

[PurpleFish]

Originally Posted by DMUonaFFAR

Permanent bans are permanent bans. So there is no "re-ban".

Also, you can definitely inject cheats using shadowbanned accounts where the SB has lifted...not being able to inject successfully on a lifted shadowban account is not a thing


But anyway, nearly all unlock all tools are all scuffed right now and almost always are gonna lead to a ban eventually.



Nobody can really tell you until you do it.

You're going to have to start Warzone and see what happens to your new account.

Also there is no point or reason to be waiting 7-14 days unless you have already tried to queue on an account and received a 350ms shadowban ping.

You received a permaban on your main

and if you only used ESP and were permanently banned it means the cheat is DETECTED - would you mind letting us know what cheat you used since that is concerning?


So there is no reason to be waiting 7-14 days now because you're not waiting for anything. The 7-14 days people speak about waiting out, are waiting out their own already initiated by the game shadowbans, they're not simply waiting 7-14 days to play the game again without receiving a shadowban.

You basically have to sign up with your new account, def don't use a botted account you bought from ANYONE, and honestly for this scenario don't even use an online number service, literally just use a family members/friends/signig other etc etc. You only need that code once.

So make a new account, use a REAL email and REAL phone number of someone you know - then launch Warzone with no tools or cheats and play.

If you are auto 350ms pinged, or 350ms pinged after ONE match. You are HWID banned.


If you can continue to keep playing with no signs of anything, you're fine.

Thanks for answering, I will try my new account once my new sim arrives.

If my new account gets shadowbanned, does it automatically get perma banned as well? If so I'd rather create a temp account to test it before using an account with information for my new main...

As far as the cheat, it was EngineOwning. Don't believe anything on their status page, it's bullshit. There is a thread going on there that staff/mods are not even responding to themselves. Seems to be detected since Sunday, If i'd just have read a bit more without believing their status page my account would've been fine

[DMUonaFFAR]

Originally Posted by PurpleFish

Thanks for answering, I will try my new account once my new sim arrives.

If my new account gets shadowbanned, does it automatically get perma banned as well? If so I'd rather create a temp account to test it before using an account with information for my new main...

As far as the cheat, it was EngineOwning. Don't believe anything on their status page, it's bullshit. There is a thread going on there that staff/mods are not even responding to themselves. Seems to be detected since Sunday, If i'd just have read a bit more without believing their status page my account would've been fine

It may turn into a permaban once the shadow is over if you are HWID banned.

Also ****, EO really down bad rn.