Stamina calculations

[billclinton]

Hello,


I was wondering what the exact stamina calculation were, and is there anything else that effects this.

Also I was wondering how the hp% were calculated does it go off the base HP with a naked toon and raw stats or does it calculate with the other added bonuses.

I remember my old stats that I had posted but I think there seems to be some other factor in this now.
( referring to the bold )

So what does 1 stam give in HP

[steph33]

for me on scion : 3496 empty stuff : 4036 with intel ohkeros 3 slot : 2 stam lvl 6 so 540 + hp : 270 1 stam lvl 6

[Voldonx]

Originally Posted by billclinton

Hello,


I was wondering what the exact stamina calculation were, and is there anything else that effects this.

Also I was wondering how the hp% were calculated does it go off the base HP with a naked toon and raw stats or does it calculate with the other added bonuses.

I remember my old stats that I had posted but I think there seems to be some other factor in this now.
( referring to the bold )

So what does 1 stam give in HP

I always assumed the HP % is calculated based on the HP of a naked toon.

As for the stamina stat, for me now max level and fully built it is 24.8 hp/stam

But it wasn't always like this so there must be other factors in play

[billclinton]

Originally Posted by Voldonx

I always assumed the HP % is calculated based on the HP of a naked toon.

As for the stamina stat, for me now max level and fully built it is 24.8 hp/stam

But it wasn't always like this so there must be other factors in play

Thank vold for the confirmation, that's what I was thinking as well there is something else factoring in with the stam stats now and I am trying to figure it out.

what was the old stats conversion how much hp per 1 stam point did we get before.

[Voldonx]

Originally Posted by billclinton

Thank vold for the confirmation, that's what I was thinking as well there is something else factoring in with the stam stats now and I am trying to figure it out.

what was the old stats conversion how much hp per 1 stam point did we get before.

Can't remember what it was exactly, but at lvl 99 back in ep4 it was around 15.3/stam

[botpet]

I believe stamina gives more Hp if you have more % HP. One stamina on a lv1 naked toon not equal with 1 stamina on a toon with more % HP.
No armor (less % hp): 3 asthals /+-45 stamina/ : without it 4473 (377 STA), with it 4995 (422 STA) [difference: HP 522].
With armor (13%+12% HP): 3 asthals /+-45 stamina/ : without it 5586 (381 STA), with it 6234 (426 STA) [difference: HP 648].

[Wadawan]

I prefer to consider that stamina bonus don't change, but then that HP% stat gives additionnal hp based only on amount of stamina.

So that if each stamina point give something like 8 hp, and you have like 100% HP bonus in total, in addition with a total of 1000 stamina, then stamina grant you 8000 hp by itself, and the HP% grant you an additionnal 8000 hp.

You can consider that stamina hp value evolve, but i prefer to clearly separate the 2 stats (sta and hp%), easier for me :P .



Wearing greave or life prayer stone or shuta ring, items or buff which grant raw hp (like +100hp), have no influence on sta nor hp%. But don't necesarly consider a naked toon, because buff that provider directly sta, or items or anything else giving sta, do have an effect on the result of hp% effect (as you total sta will change).

[ACE-ppc]

Hi,
i found out the calculation long time ago ..
here is a smal tool to to do the math ... but you can still calculate yourself .. look at the screenshot.
You need to enter your stamina and in the bonus fields add the HP % in armor,stones,buffs,pots etc ... add the hp+ in the fixed fields.





Greez ACE

[steph33]

And ACE coming .. xD THX

But quick question : Factor is all the time 8 ?

For example on lil scion with giant i have 17k hp : 1038 stam ( With giant so 40 % in Bonus 1 )
but with factor 8 i have : 7608 hp . So Factor for me will be 17 . Right ?

[billclinton]

Originally Posted by ACE-ppc

Hi,
i found out the calculation long time ago ..
here is a smal tool to to do the math ... but you can still calculate yourself .. look at the screenshot.
You need to enter your stamina and in the bonus fields add the HP % in armor,stones,buffs,pots etc ... add the hp+ in the fixed fields.





Greez ACE

so these are the stats a long time ago ?

I was doing calculations and before the rebalance the fantastic jewel that gave 4% hp ended up giving me more hp then a lvl 6 stam now it does not so the stats have changed.

Webzen has changed something it the way stam points is calculated.

just trying to figure out what 1 stam point gave in hp before rebalance and what it gives now.
If there is other factors then we need to figure this out.

I read botpets post but after coming of a 16 hour shift my mind is a little confukeled


when I was testing the jewel I was not getting my 4% hp it was coming out to less ( this is why I am confused.)

[steph33]

so wz decrease jewel % ? but still show 4 % ? .. Gf xD

[ACE-ppc]

Originally Posted by steph33

And ACE coming .. xD THX

But quick question : Factor is all the time 8 ?

For example on lil scion with giant i have 17k hp : 1038 stam ( With giant so 40 % in Bonus 1 )
but with factor 8 i have : 7608 hp . So Factor for me will be 17 . Right ?

You dont have any % or + hp in your armor pents rings ??
so you tested it naked without any buff ?

I tested it and the factor is still the same.

Greez ACE

[Km3Xx]

I tested it yesterday, it is still the right factor. My Ranger has unbuffed 8236 hp, calculator said it should have 8237 hp.

[billclinton]

Originally Posted by steph33

so wz decrease jewel % ? but still show 4 % ? .. Gf xD

Well something is going on.Something has changed.

the jewel is also 3% not 4% I am always getting the stats of these jewels mixed up.

But at the higher levels and before reblance I remember I was getting more HP out of a Fan Topaz then I was a lvl 6 stam stone.

Something has changed in the way stam is calculated or HP % is calculated.

I have tested it on naked toons etc and I never get the full %

[Chaosgimp]

no sir, nothing has changed

note
1. stats like hp +100 (eg normal shuta ring) dont get affected by HP +XY% at all - max HP % increase is only related to the stamina stat
2. when your char has currently 0% max HP increase (so you gotta put off stuff like suit, giant pot, BG buff, top, excellent faren + buffs like your hunters cohesion etc); 1 stamina gives exactly 8 hp

depending on your "max HP" amount in percents (cant find it in C window, need to calculate yourself or just use h4x like ace) the 8 hp per stamina rise:
lets say youre using giant pot (40%), some cf realm top with 10% and want to know how much hp lvl 6 stamina stone (30 stm) would give you
30 stamina * 8 = basicly 240 hp + 50% max HP = 240 + (240 * 0,5) = 240 + 120 = 360, so one stamina would add in this case 8 * 1,5 = 12 hp

now taking your stamina stone lvl 6 and fantastic stone +3% max HP as an example, lets imagine you have 867 stamina and 169% max HP
lvl 6 stamina stone gives: 30 * 8 * 2,69 = 645,6 hp (ofc the game rounds up and down to erase decimal numbers)
3% max HP stone gives: 867 * 8 * 0,03 = 208,08 hp which is the amount of hp you would get from [208,08 / (8 * 2,69) =] 9,6691449814 stamina


after all ace is just right, i only wrote this because you seem to claim hes not

edit; pathetic grammar mistake eliminated xD