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Old 01/31/2013, 21:16   #16
 
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Only 5 users are unbanned. As you know many users claim that they are innocent, but I think they are not innocent.


I hope this massive account ban will help to make fair Archlord.

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Great example of lack of knowledge and unexperience! Webzen is far away the most unprofessional company!

Interesting how Webzen ban "thinking" maybe user(s) did something wrong. While any other company do it with proofs.
Interesting how Webzen ban a user and only because that user have a MD and a GM on facebook they removed ban. On the other hand ignoring others and banning "THINKING" maybe users knew items are duped.

If Webzen wanted to do something well then should BAN users who duped and all accounts who logged on same IP. NOT to BAN users who bought an duped item.
Before any volunteer it's raging to me let me remind u we are NORMAL players and we can NOT know if some1 is selling an duped item or an real item. Specially as long Webzen made NO NOTICE or WARNING about DUPE!

NO, I do NOT have any account banned! But everybody who got banned because he bought an item cheaper (everybody would look to buy something cheaper) and got a permanent BAN it's really ridiculous.
Webzen could BAN them for 1 month or so and remove duped items, but permanent BAN because u bought a cheaper item is way TO MUCH.
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Old 01/31/2013, 21:42   #17
 
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i totally agree
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Old 01/31/2013, 21:54   #18
 
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Great example of lack of knowledge and unexperience! Webzen is far away the most unprofessional company!

Interesting how Webzen ban "thinking" maybe user(s) did something wrong. While any other company do it with proofs.
Interesting how Webzen ban a user and only because that user have a MD and a GM on facebook they removed ban. On the other hand ignoring others and banning "THINKING" maybe users knew items are duped.

If Webzen wanted to do something well then should BAN users who duped and all accounts who logged on same IP. NOT to BAN users who bought an duped item.
Before any volunteer it's raging to me let me remind u we are NORMAL players and we can NOT know if some1 is selling an duped item or an real item. Specially as long Webzen made NO NOTICE or WARNING about DUPE!

NO, I do NOT have any account banned! But everybody who got banned because he bought an item cheaper (everybody would look to buy something cheaper) and got a permanent BAN it's really ridiculous.
Webzen could BAN them for 1 month or so and remove duped items, but permanent BAN because u bought a cheaper item is way TO MUCH.
Some GMs took everything from banned accounts and now with alter toons are selling them to people and also a lot of things are being given to their "friends".

WZ is corrupted ... there are players who pay some GMs with real money to get things for free !

Leave this game before it is too late... they are raping and stealing our money.
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Old 01/31/2013, 22:10   #19
 
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they banned the people but what about all the ingame items, people have billions upon billions of gold. which is impossible to compete with
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Old 01/31/2013, 22:30   #20
 
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Such bs. It's a perfectly understandable statement. How should you be able to cross a line between those who "don't know what they bought" and those who were fully aware of it?

"we didn't get a notice that we shouldn't dupe" -> obeying ToS = no violating Wz policies. I didn't know I couldn't walk into a bank, steal money and hide it under my bed. I never read up on the law officer.... Are you kidding me?

900 accounts were banned. If you "don't know what you bought", you're full of sht. Everyone on this server perfectly knew what was going on and participated in it by buying and keeping it secret for so long.

I applaud such a bold decision as perma ban for SO MANY. I laughed my socks off when I saw it. Vols

worked on the case a long time, tbh I expected only 30 bans! But no, it was an immense network of cheaters, dupers and glitchers.

Sure, a few casualties and that sucks, but better than letting 500 cheaters back in-game.

Suck it up and face the consequences, they gambled and lost. A casino doesn't pay you back either when you blow your life saving on 1 game.

Bb, have a nice life, or start a new char and play it fair like the majority of us do.


Ps: I don't have to share all this information here. I do it to inform this community. I could just as well leave you completely in the dark. Highlighting 1 part and going on a rampage is so immature. JJ isn't formal with us, she's a person and sometimes she has an opinion.
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Old 01/31/2013, 22:54   #21
 
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Such bs. It's a perfectly understandable statement. How should you be able to cross a line between those who "don't know what they bought" and those who were fully aware of it?

"we didn't get a notice that we shouldn't dupe" -> obeying ToS = no violating Wz policies. I didn't know I couldn't walk into a bank, steal money and hide it under my bed. I never read up on the law officer.... Are you kidding me?

900 accounts were banned. If you "don't know what you bought", you're full of sht. Everyone on this server perfectly knew what was going on and participated in it by buying and keeping it secret for so long.

I applaud such a bold decision as perma ban for SO MANY. I laughed my socks off when I saw it. Vols worked on the case a long time, tbh I expected only 30 bans! But no, it was an immense network of cheaters, dupers and glitchers.

Sure, a few casualties and that sucks, but better than letting 500 cheaters back in-game.

Suck it up and face the consequences, they gambled and lost. A casino doesn't pay you back either when you blow your life saving on 1 game.

Bb, have a nice life, or start a new char and play it fair like the majority of us do.
Sure, how much WZ is giving to you in CC per month ? Just wondering ...
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Old 01/31/2013, 23:11   #22
 
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I think I asked u to dont rage like an animal Voldonx.

"we didn't get a notice that we shouldn't dupe" - this has nothing to do with what trash u are talking about. Were players who duped and kept method for themself, as u already said it "keeping it secret for so long".
My dear, u are contradicting urself.

Many players did NOT know anything about DUPE, but still if some1 was selling an item with 1-2 scrolls cheaper they bought it (hope u are not so retarded to blame ppl for that). As long method has been kept secret how we could knew some low ppl DUPE items? Oh, by magic?

I also dont said "unbann 500 accounts", I said to investigate who DUPED and BAN all accounts who logged on the same IP.

If u prefer ur story with bank, then tell me if a robber steal 1.000 Euro from a bank and come to ur shop and buy something for 500 Euro. Will be cool to go to jail because cops "think u are not innocent" ?
I know how ridiculous that sound, but it's totally same thing with banning ppl for buying something cheaper or selling something for more then general price.
Ofc a duper could pay more than normal players and ofc a duper could sell items cheaper to a normal player.
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Old 01/31/2013, 23:12   #23
 
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I work over an hour a day for my ****** 3k reward.

Next time they recruit Vols have the brains to apply.

Exactly what I lold about in my previous post, take a cheap shot at the messenger trying to help the community.

What a retarded comeback.
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Old 01/31/2013, 23:14   #24
 
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WZ is corrupted ... there are players who pay some GMs with real money to get things for free !

Nothing new. CM also had unofficial ways to get some extra money.

Why those bots in first villages are never banned?
Why farmgolds could sell you billions of gold on new serwer?

Answer is simple. Cooperation.
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Old 01/31/2013, 23:19   #25
 
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I work over an hour a day for my ****** 3k reward.

Next time they recruit Vols have the brains to apply.

Exactly what I lold about in my previous post, take a cheap shot at the messenger trying to help the community.

What a retarded comeback.
3K reward per month for 1 hour per day. Not bad and what you do ?!? Nothing .. Not bad at all ! I think some other guys get more about 5 or 8 K per month. Thats how much one guy in our union takes.

On the other hand explain that to people who got banned without reason, can you ? By the way I am not banned if you think of that.
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Old 01/31/2013, 23:28   #26
 
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3K reward per month for 1 hour per day. Not bad and what you do ?!? Nothing .. Not bad at all ! I think some other guys get more about 5 or 8 K per month. Thats how much one guy in our union takes.

On the other hand explain that to people who got banned without reason, can you ? By the way I am not banned if you think of that.
How would you know what we do? You don't. Get some education, I was recruited because I speak 4 languages. Usefull asset for communication and translation. Today alone I received 20+ pms and made 7 reports.

I don't think many people would have the patience. I'd much rather tell you idiot cheaters to go **** yourselves.

Tell your banned friends I sent my regards.

Good night sugar.
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Old 01/31/2013, 23:34   #27
 
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I can't say a bad word about V work. WZ usually ignores them as normal players. But sometimes they are stubborn enough to force WZ to do something.


And this reminds me a situation, when I got a ban in WZ. First and last in this game.
That was when that so called "guild storage dupe" bug exist. Voldonx helped me then and they unbaned my acc, but this WZ mistake was next, major reason why I left active play in AL.
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Old 01/31/2013, 23:36   #28
 
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How would you know what we do? You don't. Get some education, I was recruited because I speak 4 languages. Usefull asset for communication and translation. Today alone I received 20+ pms and made 7 reports.

I don't think many people would have the patience. I'd much rather tell you idiot cheaters to go **** yourselves.

Good night sugar.
You got angry ? Why sugar babe ? I know everything that you and others do ! Surprised ? Don't be. You speak 4 languages? Including body language ? I speak 4 also ... not bad, no I don't want to be volunteer if you want to open subject about that. Now do your dirty work and go report things to WZ to get your monthly check.

I feel pity for people that got banned without reason. And what WZ do ? Well they give an idiotic generic answer to everyone without any proof at all. Nice work !!!
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L0ko, how dumb can you be? You act like frustrated 13 years old kid when some1 steal you cookies -.- I just don't get it. First you are telling ppl not to rage about stupid thigs, then you get angry and rage on them. Where is the sense? If u don't have nothing interesting to say about topic just shut up please. I think ppl are just bored reading your complaining.
And @topic, like someone said, if you break some rules lack of knowing the law doesn't make you innocent. Secondly - we know about dupe not since yesterday, please. I think +90% of those banned ppl weren't innocent. And if we sacrificed 20 - 30 innocent ppl to get rid of few hundreds scammers - np for me. Even if i get banned, np.
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L0ko, how dumb can you be? You act like frustrated 13 years old kid when some1 steal you cookies -.- I just don't get it. First you are telling ppl not to rage about stupid thigs, then you get angry and rage on them. Where is the sense? If u don't have nothing interesting to say about topic just shut up please. I think ppl are just bored reading your complaining.
And @topic, like someone said, if you break some rules lack of knowing the law doesn't make you innocent. Secondly - we know about dupe not since yesterday, please. I think +90% of those banned ppl weren't innocent. And if we sacrificed 20 - 30 innocent ppl to get rid of few hundreds scammers - np for me. Even if i get banned, np.
Maybe you are confusing me with someone else on forums? I am not frustrated at anyone. Where did you saw that I am frustrated? Learn to read.
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