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Getting Started With DMA
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04/30/2025, 01:20
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Getting Started With DMA
From my research it seems the only safe way to cheat on any game at the moment is through DMA, first I would like to confirm that, is DMA the best option?
Assuming it is, how do I get started. I know nothing about DMA or how it even functions all I know is that it is quite expensive and requires a second computer. So how do I get started? What equipment do I need, any specific requirements, and what are the best DMA cheats and how do I find them because most cheats I see anywhere on this website are non DMA.
I hear things like "buying firmware" a "kmbox", "fuser", I have no idea what these things are. Why are there different people selling different kmboxs, what does it even do?, what is firmware? etc..
Is there anywhere I can get a basic rundown on DMA cheats if not could someone inform me on everything I need to know.
To be clear I'm mainly looking for closet, primarily ESP.
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04/30/2025, 17:24
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I have been using DMA card with second computer for 3 months completely undetected on Apex Legends. Just search DMA requirements on YouTube and you will get more videos answering your questions than you have time to watch. You are correct there are far fewer DMA cheese providers. I suspect that’s because with a little leg work and know how you can use a free software for aim bot and radar. Admittedly, I have always purchased mine.
My advice is to make sure all devices and cheese are compatible. Windows 11 version 24H2 will cause issues with most DMA software cheese providers. I learned that the hard way.
Lastly, nothing goes undetected forever. If you value your main account you won’t use it with DMA or any other device that is in violation of TOS.
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04/30/2025, 21:02
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Originally Posted by noval_
From my research it seems the only safe way to cheat on any game at the moment is through DMA, first I would like to confirm that, is DMA the best option?
Assuming it is, how do I get started. I know nothing about DMA or how it even functions all I know is that it is quite expensive and requires a second computer. So how do I get started? What equipment do I need, any specific requirements, and what are the best DMA cheats and how do I find them because most cheats I see anywhere on this website are non DMA.
I hear things like "buying firmware" a "kmbox", "fuser", I have no idea what these things are. Why are there different people selling different kmboxs, what does it even do?, what is firmware? etc..
Is there anywhere I can get a basic rundown on DMA cheats if not could someone inform me on everything I need to know.
To be clear I'm mainly looking for closet, primarily ESP.
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you will need a second pc to start. either a mini pc or a whole second computer if you have it ( i sell mini pcs for around 200$ ) next is a dma card doesnt matter which one u get but you should research so u dont over spend or get a cheap **** product ( i also sell dma cards ) then you need to find the cheat you wanna use and ask the dev which firmware is compatible with their cheat then buy that if its a radar cheat than thats all you will need to start but if it has esp and you wanna use that you will need a fuser ( i sell fusers ) then if the cheat has aimbot or recoil and you want to use that feature you will need a kmbox ( i also sell km boxes ) feel free to dm me on discord if you need help starting
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04/30/2025, 23:20
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Originally Posted by Cheesy's Products
you will need a second pc to start. either a mini pc or a whole second computer if you have it ( i sell mini pcs for around 200$ ) next is a dma card doesnt matter which one u get but you should research so u dont over spend or get a cheap shit product ( i also sell dma cards ) then you need to find the cheat you wanna use and ask the dev which firmware is compatible with their cheat then buy that if its a radar cheat than thats all you will need to start but if it has esp and you wanna use that you will need a fuser ( i sell fusers ) then if the cheat has aimbot or recoil and you want to use that feature you will need a kmbox ( i also sell km boxes ) feel free to dm me on discord if you need help starting
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I see, what exactly is firmware in the context of DMA, what does it do and how do I find good ones. Is there any reputable place and well known seller(s)? Same for the rest of the products is there any like "go-to" fuser, card, etc.. which is known as the best. Also for the KMBox is it just one product or is it a type of product because I see a bunch of people selling them is it all the same just different seller or are they somehow different? Thanks for the help.
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Originally Posted by OldManDirt
I have been using DMA card with second computer for 3 months completely undetected on Apex Legends. Just search DMA requirements on YouTube and you will get more videos answering your questions than you have time to watch. You are correct there are far fewer DMA cheese providers. I suspect that’s because with a little leg work and know how you can use a free software for aim bot and radar. Admittedly, I have always purchased mine.
My advice is to make sure all devices and cheese are compatible. Windows 11 version 24H2 will cause issues with most DMA software cheese providers. I learned that the hard way.
Lastly, nothing goes undetected forever. If you value your main account you won’t use it with DMA or any other device that is in violation of TOS.
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I believe Microsoft plans to shut down support for Windows 10 soon, what is the solution for this considering DMA is incompatible or has shown to be problematic?
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04/30/2025, 23:52
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It’s the newest version of windows 11 that’s the issue. At least it was for me. My second pc is widows 10. Perfectly fine no issues. I don’t know why the latest version of windows causes problems. Plenty of speculation but nothing I know first hand
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05/01/2025, 03:31
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Originally Posted by noval_
I see, what exactly is firmware in the context of DMA, what does it do and how do I find good ones. Is there any reputable place and well known seller(s)? Same for the rest of the products is there any like "go-to" fuser, card, etc.. which is known as the best. Also for the KMBox is it just one product or is it a type of product because I see a bunch of people selling them is it all the same just different seller or are they somehow different? Thanks for the help.
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captain dma i heard is good for cards im not sure about firmware though
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05/01/2025, 03:56
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captain dma i heard is good for cards im not sure about firmware though
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Thanks for being so helpful. How would I even go about finding good firmware.
Again thanks for all the help I have some questions remaining, I don't want to be a bother and I guess anyone can answer these but here they are:
1. What is the preferred fuser or the "go-to" that is seen as the superior option, if there is any.
2. To my understand firmware (in the context of DMA) is what hides the cheat from the game and is necessary to security, my question lies in weather the firmware is something that is installed on the main pc, second pc, or the DMA card itself.
3. Another reply to another one of my posts stated that 2PC is a superior option, if DMA requires a second pc what is 2PC and how does it differ from DMA?
4. He also mentioned a downside of DMA is quote: "requires monthly rotations x2" what are these monthly rotations? I am quote confused. He also states: "These are all the dt vectors. Obviously DMA is top 4. It’s ****. Washed market.". Again he says: "In my eyes DMA is only something you can invest into if you have connections. If you don’t have connections then don’t consider buying or investing into it." All these things have led me to question weather DMA is the safest and best option it seems to be praised as.
Sorry for the load of questions and thank you in advance if anyone takes the burden of answering all these questions.
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05/01/2025, 04:07
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Originally Posted by noval_
Thanks for being so helpful. How would I even go about finding good firmware.
Again thanks for all the help I have some questions remaining, I don't want to be a bother and I guess anyone can answer these but here they are:
1. What is the preferred fuser or the "go-to" that is seen as the superior option, if there is any.
2. To my understand firmware (in the context of DMA) is what hides the cheat from the game and is necessary to security, my question lies in weather the firmware is something that is installed on the main pc, second pc, or the DMA card itself.
3. Another reply to another one of my posts stated that 2PC is a superior option, if DMA requires a second pc what is 2PC and how does it differ from DMA?
4. He also mentioned a downside of DMA is quote: "requires monthly rotations x2" what are these monthly rotations? I am quote confused. He also states: "These are all the dt vectors. Obviously DMA is top 4. It’s shit. Washed market.". Again he says: "In my eyes DMA is only something you can invest into if you have connections. If you don’t have connections then don’t consider buying or investing into it." All these things have led me to question weather DMA is the safest and best option it seems to be praised as.
Sorry for the load of questions and thank you in advance if anyone takes the burden of answering all these questions.
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I know whose statements you're talking about - don’t pay him any attention, lol. DMA is still much safer than internal or external methods unless you’re using HPTT, which is out of reach for 99% of cheaters due to the cost.
The best fuser is the one that supports your resolution and refresh rate. If you're using a standard resolution, pretty much any option from AliExpress will do the job.
Firmware is installed directly on the device/card itself, which would be set up on your main PC.
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05/01/2025, 15:01
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Originally Posted by noval_
From my research it seems the only safe way to cheat on any game at the moment is through DMA, first I would like to confirm that, is DMA the best option?
Assuming it is, how do I get started. I know nothing about DMA or how it even functions all I know is that it is quite expensive and requires a second computer. So how do I get started? What equipment do I need, any specific requirements, and what are the best DMA cheats and how do I find them because most cheats I see anywhere on this website are non DMA.
I hear things like "buying firmware" a "kmbox", "fuser", I have no idea what these things are. Why are there different people selling different kmboxs, what does it even do?, what is firmware? etc..
Is there anywhere I can get a basic rundown on DMA cheats if not could someone inform me on everything I need to know.
To be clear I'm mainly looking for closet, primarily ESP.
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buying and plugging a PCIe card is not the only way to DMA.
you can DMA with just 1 PC by running a QEMU/KVM Windows VM on Linux.
it's 100% free, and does not involve any hardware.
but it takes understanding of PC, Windows and Linux.
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05/01/2025, 22:08
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Originally Posted by 0x41^4
I know whose statements you're talking about - don’t pay him any attention, lol. DMA is still much safer than internal or external methods unless you’re using HPTT, which is out of reach for 99% of cheaters due to the cost.
The best fuser is the one that supports your resolution and refresh rate. If you're using a standard resolution, pretty much any option from AliExpress will do the job.
Firmware is installed directly on the device/card itself, which would be set up on your main PC.
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What is the monthly thing he was talking about? What discredits him? And how strong does the second pc have to be? Sorry for so many questions lol
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05/01/2025, 23:22
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Originally Posted by noval_
What is the monthly thing he was talking about? What discredits him? And how strong does the second pc have to be? Sorry for so many questions lol
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I know you didn't respond to me but let me try to explain. He probably means that you have to get a new fw each month . This is only the case if you get **** cheap fw which gets blocked very often (Not sure if it was stated but usually blocks only stop the dma from reading, doesn't cause bans unless its actually detected which is rare even for **** fw). If you buy from a reliable seller with a track record, you shouldn't have an issue for a while.
Second pc doesn't have to be strong, you can buy a 150-200 dollar one online on amazon or aliexpress, just make sure its got like 8gb ram and a semi-decent cpu. Some cheats are poorly optimized, but in that case I still never got any visual lag, just issues/lag with actually interacting with the menu/gui.
I wouldn't say anything discredits the guy, I haven't seen what he's said, but usually these kinds of comments come from people who buy the cheapest products without researching and have a horrible experience, or are salty because they don't want to fork over the money to get dma.
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05/02/2025, 00:53
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Originally Posted by noval_
What is the monthly thing he was talking about?
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With DMA, you only pay a single monthly fee, which depends on the specific cheat you choose to use.
He might be referring to firmware costs. For Apex, though, Ekknod's free firmware works just fine. If you choose to buy firmware, it would be an additional cost, but it's definitely not a monthly, especially not for Apex.
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And how strong does the second pc have to be? Sorry for so many questions lol
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The second PC doesn’t need to be powerful unless you’re playing on a larger monitor with higher resolution, you'll need a slightly stronger second PC to maintain good framerates. But if you're using a standard 24–27 inch monitor at 1920x1080, a budget second PC or mini PC will be more than enough.
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A history of misinformation and simply not understanding how things actually work.
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05/03/2025, 19:01
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Originally Posted by CosmoWarr
I know you didn't respond to me but let me try to explain. He probably means that you have to get a new fw each month . This is only the case if you get **** cheap fw which gets blocked very often (Not sure if it was stated but usually blocks only stop the dma from reading, doesn't cause bans unless its actually detected which is rare even for **** fw). If you buy from a reliable seller with a track record, you shouldn't have an issue for a while.
Second pc doesn't have to be strong, you can buy a 150-200 dollar one online on amazon or aliexpress, just make sure its got like 8gb ram and a semi-decent cpu. Some cheats are poorly optimized, but in that case I still never got any visual lag, just issues/lag with actually interacting with the menu/gui.
I wouldn't say anything discredits the guy, I haven't seen what he's said, but usually these kinds of comments come from people who buy the cheapest products without researching and have a horrible experience, or are salty because they don't want to fork over the money to get dma.
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Thank you, do you know of any reputable places I can find good firmware?
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05/07/2025, 08:24
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Thank you, do you know of any reputable places I can find good firmware?
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I can't recommend anyone in particular, the fw market is pretty scummy. Pharma is one of the best choices if you can afford their high price point.
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05/07/2025, 12:38
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Originally Posted by CosmoWarr
I can't recommend anyone in particular, the fw market is pretty scummy. Pharma is one of the best choices if you can afford their high price point.
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What makes them scummy
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