Transitioning to dma newbie journey.

[MewNewFps]

Hello Folks I go by MewNew I have always been intrigued by chairs & cheese products have used some before but have gotten banned before & so now I want to do it without risking much as in ban wise I did love to hear some Input on how to make my transition to DMA as smooth as possible I have contacted dma David & plan to get his product hardware let me know if this is a great start or if I should look elsewhere? Thanks in advance & any tips or knowledge on this topic is highly appreciated! I only play apex legends don’t know if that helps in any way ! I would just be using esp if anything since I am using xim matrix atm.

[Xgncrouchpc]

After everything I have read I wouldn’t go with David. There are several other providers that sell DMA products and firmware. Idk about his hardware sales practices but I heard is firmware isn’t recommended. You can buy DMA hardware bundles at affordable prices from a bunch of different vendors ie BDE, New Project, Scarlett, enigma, alone hardware, cyberammo. I only play apex and currently there seems to be a firmware detection epidemic going on. So idk about firmware right now. But recommend finding/buying custom made firmware.

[wilvin0]

Honestly dma is kinda overkill for apex, but if you wanna go for it my suggestion is to buy the hardware from the cheapest place u can find (which is prolly not david tbh) and DON'T overpay (tbh u don't even need to buy it at all) for fw. Since you're going to play only apex atm u can even use public fws.

[Xgncrouchpc]

I would go with public firmware. Seems by Lynne van wave going on rn in the DMA apex scene. Plus. Whole purpose of DMA is to remain undetected for as long as possible. Wouldn’t recommend using public firmware specifically for that reason

[ftgstp]

You need to find a very trusted custom firmware provider or you will get fast ban

[wilvin0]

Originally Posted by ftgstp

You need to find a very trusted custom firmware provider or you will get fast ban

Are you one of these pasted fw sellers? He'll be fine even with public fw on apex.

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[Cfy]

stay away from dma card reseller, since almost all dma cards are the same!
Only diff. on dma boards are the chips! 35T Chip and 75T Chip and then there is ZDMA.
Cheap 35T Dma boards are on Taobao (Chinese aliexpress). if thats too much hustle for you. look for a reseller that offers an dma board 35t + eac/be fw (35t since thats enough)
for around 120-150$, everything above 150$ straight up scam.

Also Public FWs are fine for Apex aka EAC, if you want to go an saver route, look for a fw maker that sells an unshared be/eac fw for around 50-70$, once again everything above that is scam.

and stay away from david dma, he is a know fw scammer. (check valorant dma scam provider thread for info)

[svint]

Originally Posted by ftgstp

You need to find a very trusted custom firmware provider or you will get fast ban

lol no you won't. i have accidentally used the stock bin from pcileech on Apex once, gamed a whole night session then realized. this was nearly two months ago and no ban.

as i have said before on here, something like ekknod's wifi 2.0, even while being public, will be safer than 99% of these "cfw 1:1" bullshit config space tricks out there for $150-200.

just go download ekknod's compiled offering OP, flash it and call it a day.

[pingpong99]

Originally Posted by svint

lol no you won't. i have accidentally used the stock bin from pcileech on Apex once, gamed a whole night session then realized. this was nearly two months ago and no ban.

as i have said before on here, something like ekknod's wifi 2.0, even while being public, will be safer than 99% of these "cfw 1:1" bullshit config space tricks out there for $150-200.

just go download ekknod's compiled offering OP, flash it and call it a day.

I have clutch's CFW and they just got beamed again by apex eac. I purchased it before doing research on firmware because I used their tarkov radar for over 2 years now so I figured they knew what they were doing. Just had a question since you seem to be knowledgeable about dma and firmwares. Do different dma cards with the same firmware provider all get banned if there is a ban wave? For example say one person has a m.2 type dma card and another person has a pcie type dma card but they purchased from the same provider. Also if a person has the m.2 dma card in a m.2 slot on the motherboard instead of a pcie slot with a expansion adapter would that make a difference? My dma does not show up under device manager on my game pc or if it is I can't find it. Usually it would be under other devices but mine is not there.

[Harukyo ツ]

If you want to purchase an cheap DMA + KmBox Net and a Fuser go to Taobao aka Sugargoo

If you want to get the safest FW possible : Go to Diviner (he has a DC Server) 90% from all FW's around are from him including FTW etc. + You get a permanent warranty on 9.1 FW. (Don't trust the its an unique 1:1 bs, its a straight lie)

Important : Stay away from DavidDMA, Zulu FW, JService FW etc.

If there are any more questions : PM

[svint]

Originally Posted by pingpong99

I have clutch's CFW and they just got beamed again by apex eac. I purchased it before doing research on firmware because I used their tarkov radar for over 2 years now so I figured they knew what they were doing. Just had a question since you seem to be knowledgeable about dma and firmwares. Do different dma cards with the same firmware provider all get banned if there is a ban wave? For example say one person has a m.2 type dma card and another person has a pcie type dma card but they purchased from the same provider. Also if a person has the m.2 dma card in a m.2 slot on the motherboard instead of a pcie slot with a expansion adapter would that make a difference? My dma does not show up under device manager on my game pc or if it is I can't find it. Usually it would be under other devices but mine is not there.

Damn, sorry about the clip bro... always sucks anytime a ban happens. i don't know much on clutch, but it sounds like they were merely providing the "CFW 1:1" bullshit. Rule of thumb, anyone who advertises their firmware as a personalized or custom 1:1 build, run away from them. That's not a thing. For example, if you and I both go and buy a wifi card off Amazon, our config space will be identical with a legal device. Having a "custom config" emulating a legal device is not a security measure and is probably counter intuitive.

I don't know on if the card type affects EAC/BE bans, I am going to lean towards no. They're very rudimentary in their detections right now with a large portion of detections being detecting devices trying to fool Windows into thinking you have a valid PCIE device. Example, with these shitty config space tricked fw that tricks Windows into thinking it's an ASUS Wifi card lets say, in my opinion/theory the detection happens because the anti cheat provider sends requests to your "ASUS Wifi card" that it cannot reply to. They could easily buy the same card and reverse some communication a legal device has and try it against your emulated one and boom, you're caught.

VGK has the best methods so far of detection and I can confirm they do have detections on device types, beyond just FW. Someone more seasoned can probably comment, but I've heard stuff like they're aware of throughput limitations and such of 35T devices for example and have tools to identify the device. They could also be exploiting PCILeech vulnerabilities or even Xilinx 7, who knows.

Being hidden in device manager though, is a bad thing imo. Ekknod's Wifi 2.0 as I pushed above would be a better bet. Yes its public, but it's a lot harder to prove a device that acts and responds like the legal one is fake than it is to catch a non responsive or config space tricked one. That is why Ekknod's is 2+ months undetected and all these "CFW 1:1" ones keep getting caught.

[pingpong99]

Originally Posted by svint

Damn, sorry about the clip bro... always sucks anytime a ban happens. i don't know much on clutch, but it sounds like they were merely providing the "CFW 1:1" bullshit. Rule of thumb, anyone who advertises their firmware as a personalized or custom 1:1 build, run away from them. That's not a thing. For example, if you and I both go and buy a wifi card off Amazon, our config space will be identical with a legal device. Having a "custom config" emulating a legal device is not a security measure and is probably counter intuitive.

I don't know on if the card type affects EAC/BE bans, I am going to lean towards no. They're very rudimentary in their detections right now with a large portion of detections being detecting devices trying to fool Windows into thinking you have a valid PCIE device. Example, with these shitty config space tricked fw that tricks Windows into thinking it's an ASUS Wifi card lets say, in my opinion/theory the detection happens because the anti cheat provider sends requests to your "ASUS Wifi card" that it cannot reply to. They could easily buy the same card and reverse some communication a legal device has and try it against your emulated one and boom, you're caught.

VGK has the best methods so far of detection and I can confirm they do have detections on device types, beyond just FW. Someone more seasoned can probably comment, but I've heard stuff like they're aware of throughput limitations and such of 35T devices for example and have tools to identify the device. They could also be exploiting PCILeech vulnerabilities or even Xilinx 7, who knows.

Being hidden in device manager though, is a bad thing imo. Ekknod's Wifi 2.0 as I pushed above would be a better bet. Yes its public, but it's a lot harder to prove a device that acts and responds like the legal one is fake than it is to catch a non responsive or config space tricked one. That is why Ekknod's is 2+ months undetected and all these "CFW 1:1" ones keep getting caught.

Thank you for the info very helpful. Last question if I were to go all out on a firmware I would want a emulated one with driver support correct? I don't really play faceit or anything but I would want the most secure type of firmware possible just so I don't have to worry about anything. I found a provider that is selling one that describes it as 1:1 config space copied from real device, manufacturer driver support, BAR support and TLP support. This firmware supports BE/EAC/DRV Scan/Faceit. Would you recommend this for someone who really wants to stay undetected from everything? Also what would the price for something like this be? Also if it doesn't show in device manager how would they see it in my computer to send a ping to it? Thank you for your time.

[svint]

Originally Posted by pingpong99

Thank you for the info very helpful. Last question if I were to go all out on a firmware I would want a emulated one with driver support correct? I don't really play faceit or anything but I would want the most secure type of firmware possible just so I don't have to worry about anything. I found a provider that is selling one that describes it as 1:1 config space copied from real device, manufacturer driver support, BAR support and TLP support. This firmware supports BE/EAC/DRV Scan/Faceit. Would you recommend this for someone who really wants to stay undetected from everything? Also what would the price for something like this be? Also if it doesn't show in device manager how would they see it in my computer to send a ping to it? Thank you for your time.

Unfortunately you just won't find a truly emulated firmware without cheap config space tricks or half ass emulation. The amount of work that would go into truly emulating a PCIe device and all of its TLP communications would be insane. I am super amateur with reverse engineering, but I can imagine the workload would be nuts.

The market just sucks right now. You have the Chinese market, who will see you as an American idiot/cash cow and prey on your $$$ or you have the Western market filled with "fw god" adderall infused kids who edit the DEV_ID or SUBSYS_ID of public shit and put a new "emulated" device out. I can go on and on lol, there is so much trash happening.

I think your best bet is still to take Ekknod's or Itha's public offerings and use them. Ekknod even has a guide on his Github on how to customize the config space (though I doubt that would help much in the place of detection, but yeah).

If you're hellbent on spending money though, Itha has good offerings. You'll have to pay thousands though to get an invite, I believe, to any of his more premium offerings. There is also a kid named Diviner who apparently puts out some decent stuff, though he seems to just be shadow config spacing his stuff, I could be wrong. His stuff though is at least price reasonable at like $80 or $150 for "emulated". I won't vouch for either though.

Originally Posted by lezelden

i often see you in some threads being helpful, thanks for that man.

Appreciate it bro, DMA is tough with a ton of self learning and this modern gatekeeping bullshit. There are a ton of fallacies too with stuff like these fw creators making thousands, Chinese board creators making $$$ while the original product developer Ulf Frisk gets doo doo. So anyway I can divert people from these preying apes, I'll do it

[WemixCheats]

Buy from cheapest place you can find.