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Anti Bot System

Hello people,

i want to inform you that NCSoft talked about a new Anti Bot System (server sided) and it's online since 1.5.1. For all botters and coders i want to help you a little bit.

If you bot 24 / 7 on the same location, same waypoints without any changes YOU get a BAN.

For all people who use a background memory injection to move your player they detects it now and you will get a ban!

For all people who use a Cast Injection, you get a ban.

You have to imagine this like this, their new anti bot detection system works like following:

- Logging Movement Routines, Logging Combat Routines
-- Parsing them and Filter all Botters
- Detect 2 Injections (at this moment)
- Logging Client Pakets (NOT ALL) (if something is missed cause your bot sends one of these pakets, have fun with a ban)

I wish i could warn some from you before 1.5.1 was released but I was not allowed to do.
In future keep your code clean and user friendly and human like.

If you want more information about this topic write a PM to me.

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Old 11/24/2009, 12:57   #2
 
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I'd be interested as to how you know for a fact NC soft has advanced heuristic analysis running server side.
It would not only eat the server space, but CPU utilization would be outta the roof and the I/O on the HD would be maxed...


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Old 11/24/2009, 13:17   #3
 
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I'd be interested as to how you know for a fact NC soft has advanced heuristic analysis running server side.
It would not only eat the server space, but CPU utilization would be outta the roof and the I/O on the HD would be maxed...
They said that after an interview in a bit of small talk. After an interview you've to ask what about the botter is and they tell you everything.

And it is a real fact.
How that system exact logs and stores the data I dont know but I know they do.

And because of the injection it worked on the last build and this build i tested some methods for my bot and got an instant ban :/
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Old 11/24/2009, 15:22   #4
 
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Hello people,

i want to inform you that NCSoft talked about a new Anti Bot System (server sided) and it's online since 1.5.1. For all botters and coders i want to help you a little bit.

If you bot 24 / 7 on the same location, same waypoints without any changes YOU get a BAN.

For all people who use a background memory injection to move your player they detects it now and you will get a ban!

For all people who use a Cast Injection, you get a ban.

You have to imagine this like this, their new anti bot detection system works like following:

- Logging Movement Routines, Logging Combat Routines
-- Parsing them and Filter all Botters
- Detect 2 Injections (at this moment)
- Logging Client Pakets (NOT ALL) (if something is missed cause your bot sends one of these pakets, have fun with a ban)

I wish i could warn some from you before 1.5.1 was released but I was not allowed to do.
In future keep your code clean and user friendly and human like.

If you want more information about this topic write a PM to me.

Thanks.
If injection WAS detected, there would be a hell of alot more people banned already. I think of my users, 1/3 or so of them got banned; the rest are fine -- some of which that bot 24/7


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Old 11/24/2009, 15:26   #5
 
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If injection WAS detected, there would be a hell of alot more people banned already. I think of my users, 1/3 or so of them got banned; the rest are fine -- some of which that bot 24/7
As i said only TWO injections are detected and only if you call them directly from the client!

No of my Users got banned so far. But i got banned cause i tested some injections which worked before. (;
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Old 11/24/2009, 15:43   #6
 
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As i said only TWO injections are detected and only if you call them directly from the client!

No of my Users got banned so far. But i got banned cause i tested some injections which worked before. (;
Ahh.

Any idea what they are?
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Old 11/24/2009, 15:48   #7
 
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Ahh.

Any idea what they are?
"For all people who use a background memory injection to move your player they detects it now and you will get a ban!

For all people who use a Cast Injection, you get a ban."

Read this. Tell it shen, i know he codes a lot with injections in his bot (;
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Old 11/24/2009, 15:49   #8
 
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Botted same Hotspots for 5 Days in a row without a break with SZbot, and no ban o.o
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Real Source ?
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Real Source ?
As i already said from an live interview. And [email protected] maybe u use a good bot or they didnt filtered you at the moment. ;P
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"For all people who use a background memory injection to move your player they detects it now and you will get a ban!

For all people who use a Cast Injection, you get a ban."

Read this. Tell it shen, i know he codes a lot with injections in his bot (;
What is background memory injection and cast injection?
I used sz for 3 days, banned. I wonder how you could set up your bot without doing all the same routine over and over again? Like you said, If they find a repeating pattern -> ban.
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Old 11/24/2009, 17:09   #12
 
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As i already said from an live interview. And [email protected] maybe u use a good bot or they didnt filtered you at the moment. ;P
Interviews are for PR.
I've been GM on many game servers, admin at many sites. Lying out the *** is more beneficial than telling the truth.

Not that I'm saying its not possible, just dont believe everything they say.
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Old 11/24/2009, 17:16   #13
 
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I'm actually happy about the new detection. Less competition for us. 2 Banwaves - 1 cheatdetection disabled - 0 DAMNCheaters users banned.

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Old 11/25/2009, 23:41   #14
 
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Wow Itburnz,

I don't know you and you don't know me, but Damncheaters really needs a new spokesman. You're terrible and really come off as a douche in various posts. If there was a choice between using only your bot or not botting period, I would choose not botting as your that smug and unlikable.

Enjoy your turkey day.

Oh - and I understand marketing and such, but the claim of how powerful your bot is just sort of makes me giggle. I mean really...(insert SNL sketch here).
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Old 11/26/2009, 17:27   #15
 
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Arent free bots detected in general ?


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