[NEW] ZeroN 9D - The Ultimate 9D Server

[bog18dy]

Originally Posted by Tengerecki

Useful information

Thank you for taking the time to leave this post, which was actually useful.
Sadly, oldschool cannot be associated immediately with DB8 content. I know you love it, but it will probably not happen @PA.
Now that I got the bad news out of the way, I wll re-quote your post with the things PA will actually offer from the list you've given us.(talking about phase 1)

Originally Posted by Tengerecki

// We will add some yybs res, thanks for reminding us.
- 110 dodge/ck dodge wardrobe ornaments


- Karma plates
- Those old decos that give 10% speed, 10% crit, 50 def/ck def (those very basic ones from acclaim)
- Quilin's Mirrors items - including deco
- Def trink/hp trink
- Elixirs until +26
- 300 damage wb the 2 slotted version as well
- 20% mansion (fd12) shoes the 2 slotted version as well
- 250 yybs weapon ornaments
- Maximum 10% crit rate ornaments <-----maybe
- Maximum 6/1k leach ornaments <----- agree, but for Phase 1, we won't have HP leech at all
- Maximum C10 yybs buffs available on regular players
- No corruption (haha - I wish) <---- well, you might hate my ideas sometimes or my attitudes, but you have to agree that I keep my promises, no, PA will not be corrupted.
- Lag free servers (certainly)
- A promise to the community there'll be no more than ONE wipe - the one you mentioned in the poll <------ Okie. There's no reason to wipe, we will rollback if something bad happens (we hope not)
- Cheap item mall (will talk about that later if neccessary) <---- Agreed
- Some sort of advertisement to attract players/catch players' attention <----Thanks, we will keep that in mind
- A promise that admins / gm's won't neglect and/or close down the servers any time soon <----- We reserve our right to do whatever. Promises are useless most of the time when it comes to situations like this. However, we DO NOT plan on closing soon, we estimated the PA lifespan and it's not in the near future (I'd say it can last as long as the community supports it)
- Since old school content will firstly be added, make sure you move on kinda quickly because most people want to see content not some old school crap <----- We kind of want to fix what the devs did wrong. The initial LD capped server was great, it needed some adjustments (like anti nuker patch and so on) but it was overall more balanced and left for more possibilities. Once OP items were introduced, it all became a mess.
- Try not to mix old/new content as it might cause major imbalance that makes pvp unenjoyable <------ Like I said in the previous post, we attempt to carefully patch the game. That's why we are doing the phases.
- If it's 100% sure (with evidence) that someone is hacking OR abusing client sided files to gain unfair advantage OR scamming, ban them permanently with no appeals <------- Yes, exactly what WILL happen
- Punish pvp relogs properly but make sure you do not hand out permanent ban for it - nor any long term bans (2 weeks maximum - that's what I'm suggesting)<---------I'd go with 1 month
- After HM cap move on straight to IM12 cap because I don't think people would wanna waste more time on having shitty out-dated items <------ Sorry, but no, this will not happen due to the reasons mentioned above. We will entertain our community with "expansions" which will include new skills,items,events. There's no point rushing to cap just to run out of content.
- IM12 cap should have similar content as Play9D R2 had <------ Again,sorry, but it probably won't happen. We have our own model.
- After IM12 cap move on to HG12 if possible.<-----There will be another cap @ PS/DB for phase 2, after that we will probably go to HG/HI cap
- Make sure admin / gm speaks English accurately <----- well, yes, we do speak english properly.
- A launcher that automatically updates each time a patch gets released is highly expected. <---- Future plan. Noted!
- 9Dragons is already dead, I know I mentioned it somewhere...above there but let me repeat myself: you need players. you need users. you need population. That should be the most important! <------ We plan to make the game easier to understand and emerge into. Our first attempt at that was reintroducing the tutorial, which in our opinions really states the basics of 9D
- Staff members should be very active and deal with users' issue right away <------- We are all busy with our personal lives. We will not abandon the server, but we won't give the quickest answers, maybe @1-2 days to 1 week response for support threads

~PA Bogdy

[ferQy]

Only and one question to Mr. Tengerecki, how to make 600 def set if HM1 will be cap, lol?

[bog18dy]

Originally Posted by ferQy

Only and one question to Mr. Tengerecki, how to make 600 def set if HM1 will be cap, lol?

He basically stated DB8 content.
I selected from his content what PA will offer for 1st phase. Some of the things he mentioned, we actually left out for 1st phase and we'll fix that.

[Adek]

Originally Posted by ferQy

Only and one question to Mr. Tengerecki, how to make 600 def set if HM1 will be cap, lol?

^ if collectibles are wiped, lol?

We are going to balance game. Not to make 9nukers again. And that's how it worked with def sets & op relics.

[eddwood]

Come on guys history will tell you that it was 9nukers until the lvl cap was raised and 15 dex ornies was introduced, then it became 9warriors.

Then the healers got traps....

And who remembers the 7 second stun Hybrid days

[bog18dy]

Originally Posted by eddwood

Come on guys history will tell you that it was 9nukers until the lvl cap was raised and 15 dex ornies was introduced, then it became 9warriors.

Then the healers got traps....

And who remembers the 7 second stun Hybrid days

History will tell us how it WAS, obviously... Yet, we are not interested in how things WERE, we are interested in how things ARE. Testing phase players will probably tell you that it will be everything BUT 9nukers . Saying this because from what I read, you seem to dislike our concept, so I'm guessing if it's not 50x rates, it's none of your interest.

[thehacker12]

You could play a warrior or nuker pretty well on play9d.

[bog18dy]

Originally Posted by thehacker12

You could play a warrior or nuker pretty on play9d.

^Our aim is not to mirror play9d, sadly.
However, I do apologize for the stuff I claimed pre-PA. Now that I know almost everything, I do agree that what 9d needed was slow progression towards balance, not mindless implementation of content which doesn't suit our stats system.
Some of the stuff you, tenge,josped (<- he really was right about a lot of things) and some others said were true. However we don't want a server with 2 roles: warrior and nuker, we want all 4 roles to be relevant, and that's where we disagree a bit.

[thehacker12]

Originally Posted by bog18dy

^Our aim is not to mirror play9d, sadly.
However, I do apologize for the stuff I claimed pre-PA. Now that I know almost everything, I do agree that what 9d needed was slow progression towards balance, not mindless implementation of content which doesn't suit our stats system.
Some of the stuff you, tenge,josped (<- he really was right about a lot of things) and some others said were true. However we don't want a server with 2 roles: warrior and nuker, we want all 4 roles to be relevant, and that's where we disagree a bit.

PvP all 4 roles are viable at some point with IM12 ck hybrid can put out damage without even the new skills, healers and their traps are strong but their other skills are ****. Its all really on how the player builds his character.

[bog18dy]

Originally Posted by thehacker12

PvP all 4 roles are viable at some point with IM12 ck hybrid can put out damage without even the new skills, healers and their traps are strong but their other skills are ****. Its all really on how the player builds his character.

There are actually 6 roles: nuker,warrior, melee hyb, melee healer, ck hyb and ck healer.

Nuker and warriors are balanced somewhere @ DB8 cap with the exact content tenge mentioned. Sadly, those 2 roles are above all other 4 roles. Melee hyb and melee healer were never EVER viable, which we intent to do after we get more feedback. Also ck hyb and ck healer never had a chance against nuker with the same level of gear and they had a chance against warrior if they were well built.

[heineken0801]

Nothing impresses me .

[senatovici]

Originally Posted by heineken0801

Nothing impresses me .

You are not impressive yourself if this is what you mean to say.

[Tengerecki]

Originally Posted by ferQy

Only and one question to Mr. Tengerecki, how to make 600 def set if HM1 will be cap, lol?

Haha, sorry my bad. You got me there! Well, my excuse right now is that I meant DB8 not HM1.

DB8 should be the first stage with tibet 1st part being available, not HM!

> Below DB8 (supposing only oldschool content and items are available) there's no way a melee role could ever beat a nuker in a fair fight. DB8 era is still not fully balanced obviously but it's significantly better than previous caps.

[bog18dy]

Originally Posted by Tengerecki

there's no way a melee role could ever beat a nuker in a fair fight.

Yes, you are right. That's what the problem was, and the exact problem we fixed.
I can't wait for people to go into phase 1, chosing nukers and expecting easy wins
Like I said, DB8 balanced nukers and warriors quite well due to Tibet epis, but 2 roles, out of 6 basically, it too less.

People like you will be needed (ofc if you're serious) during phase 1 and testing phase. You understand some concepts of the pvp and you might (if you want) help us to as good as we can in balancing all roles.

[Duan vd b3rg]

Healer traps, in what phase will they be available to use? Phase 2/3?