!!!!! [ NEW PRIVATE 9D SERVER ] 9DPK

[eddwood]

Originally Posted by Obispo

9dpk is the most ridiculous serveur of 9 dragons i ever seen

full of cheater and fail update

play9d is 1000 x better

Dude, play9d had 1 GM that had access to the server, then she/he gave up.

That server has been abandoned for about 1 year already.

The owner only gave a **** about money, and couldnt give a **** about 9Dragons.

[josped]

Originally Posted by eddwood

Dude, play9d had 1 GM that had access to the server, then she/he gave up.
That server has been abandoned for about 1 year already.
The owner only gave a fuck about money, and couldnt give a shit about 9Dragons.

Any reason to think this is any different? Not saying it is, just asking to any logical reason on why it hypothetically wouldn't be...

Draw some parallels...

P9D R1 was really great with gifts and stuff when it started. Then because of some mysterious IM abuse it got a wipe. P9D R2 had nowhere near those "freebies".
9DPK has amazing starter gifts. But it's, and nobody contests that, in Alpha. So, all you have now is gonna be wiped as a certainty and you have no idea what comes next. Major difference is owner was honest about what's to come and current IM is all free unlike P9D was.

Etc, etc...

Now, nothing to say they can't or won't make it, but until now, 9D publisher history, official or private, has these "qualities" in common:

• "Owners" have no idea of what they're doing, from a player perspective.
  
• Decisions are made with absolutely no regard to where things are, where we want them to be and how to get there, once more, from a player perspective.
  
• Profit is key, it's a commercial endeavor after all. Some will milk it hard and fast, some will milk it more slowly. But none has ever milked it properly. Once again, from a player perspective.
  
• Yaddayaddayadda...

Get the point? From the player PoV, no publisher ever got it right. In fact, the trend has always been "do what the previous one did and add some prone to fail new touches".

Privates only show the fail sooner rather than later because despite lower TCO's, they also have a much smaller revenue stream.

On the plus side, 9DPK owner does seem to understand some issues, but on the overall i'll give it same time frame as P9D till bust because he's already indulging in the same shortfalls that condemned P9D.

Can't break new ground if all you do is follow someone else's trail..

[Cashmere-Caveman]

Server: ON

[soly95]

Originally Posted by josped

Any reason to think this is any different? Not saying it is, just asking to any logical reason on why it hypothetically wouldn't be...

Draw some parallels...

P9D R1 was really great with gifts and stuff when it started. Then because of some mysterious IM abuse it got a wipe. P9D R2 had nowhere near those "freebies".
9DPK has amazing starter gifts. But it's, and nobody contests that, in Alpha. So, all you have now is gonna be wiped as a certainty and you have no idea what comes next. Major difference is owner was honest about what's to come and current IM is all free unlike P9D was.

Etc, etc...

Now, nothing to say they can't or won't make it, but until now, 9D publisher history, official or private, has these "qualities" in common:

• "Owners" have no idea of what they're doing, from a player perspective.
  
• Decisions are made with absolutely no regard to where things are, where we want them to be and how to get there, once more, from a player perspective.
  
• Profit is key, it's a commercial endeavor after all. Some will milk it hard and fast, some will milk it more slowly. But none has ever milked it properly. Once again, from a player perspective.
  
• Yaddayaddayadda...

Get the point? From the player PoV, no publisher ever got it right. In fact, the trend has always been "do what the previous one did and add some prone to fail new touches".

Privates only show the fail sooner rather than later because despite lower TCO's, they also have a much smaller revenue stream.

On the plus side, 9DPK owner does seem to understand some issues, but on the overall i'll give it same time frame as P9D till bust because he's already indulging in the same shortfalls that condemned P9D.

Can't break new ground if all you do is follow someone else's trail..

Wish the source was in our hands (good one), so we wouldn't follow someone's else trail, client side editing doesn't give us much freedom.

Edit : Is this server got the latest update ? or just a client / server side modification.

[mataegay93]

Is the server working?

[gryfon13]

not for me, idk why but i dont have any server to select

[Cashmere-Caveman]

Server On , Make sure you guys download the new launcher and update.

[josped]

Originally Posted by soly95

Wish the source was in our hands (good one), so we wouldn't follow someone's else trail, client side editing doesn't give us much freedom.

Why do you need the source? Because you're still confusing cause<>effect. Reason 9D became so broken isn't that it was broken, but that they tried to fix it when it wasn't broken.

Throwing new shinny into something that's broken only breaks it more. Try Atlantica Online for a couple of years for a perfect example...

Thus, stands to reason that the best way to break new ground in 9D is to actually go backwards instead of forward.

It seems that perfection is attained not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to remove.

Unfortunatelly, the following mirrors the software industry to a fault...

Simplicity is a great virtue but it requires hard work to achieve it and education to appreciate it. And to make matters worse: complexity sells better.

Dijkstra (1984) On the nature of Computing Science (EWD896)

Sad and quite true, complexity and featuritis sells a lot better.

[eddwood]

Originally Posted by josped

Any reason to think this is any different? Not saying it is, just asking to any logical reason on why it hypothetically wouldn't be...

Draw some parallels...

P9D R1 was really great with gifts and stuff when it started. Then because of some mysterious IM abuse it got a wipe. P9D R2 had nowhere near those "freebies".
9DPK has amazing starter gifts. But it's, and nobody contests that, in Alpha. So, all you have now is gonna be wiped as a certainty and you have no idea what comes next. Major difference is owner was honest about what's to come and current IM is all free unlike P9D was.

Etc, etc...

Now, nothing to say they can't or won't make it, but until now, 9D publisher history, official or private, has these "qualities" in common:

• "Owners" have no idea of what they're doing, from a player perspective.
  
• Decisions are made with absolutely no regard to where things are, where we want them to be and how to get there, once more, from a player perspective.
  
• Profit is key, it's a commercial endeavor after all. Some will milk it hard and fast, some will milk it more slowly. But none has ever milked it properly. Once again, from a player perspective.
  
• Yaddayaddayadda...

Get the point? From the player PoV, no publisher ever got it right. In fact, the trend has always been "do what the previous one did and add some prone to fail new touches".

Privates only show the fail sooner rather than later because despite lower TCO's, they also have a much smaller revenue stream.

On the plus side, 9DPK owner does seem to understand some issues, but on the overall i'll give it same time frame as P9D till bust because he's already indulging in the same shortfalls that condemned P9D.

Can't break new ground if all you do is follow someone else's trail..

I see your point, but I have been around the block to many times to fall for that again.

I don't mind supporting the servers future with donations.

If the owner of 9dpk wants to go down the same road as play9d, then he will meet the same fate, only much sooner.

[mrquickshipuk]

P9D was a pretty successful server considering how fast they lost interest in running it.

[eddwood]

Originally Posted by mrquickshipuk

P9D was a pretty successful server considering how fast they lost interest in running it.

Prolly because it was the 1st private server. (To my knowledge)

[gaby1992]

i believe 9dpk belongs to a kid,thats the reason why it only runs a few hours per day.i think his mom does not allow him to keep the server running when he sleeps or hes not home

[eddwood]

Apparently it was moved to a data centre that provides services for Xbox Live and PS Network.

I highly doubt it though considering its up times.

[tobybossu]

Originally Posted by gaby1992

i believe 9dpk belongs to a kid,thats the reason why it only runs a few hours per day.i think his mom does not allow him to keep the server running when he sleeps or hes not home

man you have no idea what's like to own a server and deal with all the DDOSing and all other problems. REMEMBER the server is in BETA, they're testing stuff, it's obvious there will be downtime. you're not forced to play it.
most of you just complain having no idea dafuq it's going on.
good day.

[Tengerecki]

Originally Posted by gaby1992

i believe 9dpk belongs to a kid,thats the reason why it only runs a few hours per day.i think his mom does not allow him to keep the server running when he sleeps or hes not home

Congratulations you've just earned the biggest ****** of all times in 9Dragons history.

Holy ****, it's been nearly a decade and with two sentences he earned the title. That's what I call a performance, an achievement, a skill. Holy...still can't believe my eyes. Your post is so retarded it escaped from space-time continum at the speed of light then turned back and headed towards the place it escaped from while in the meantime it became bigger and bigger and eventually it crashed into it which caused an other big bang. You've created a new existence! A new universe. And it only took one post. I respect you, brother.