thanks to "vigor" i figured whats was my problem
both last trainers work perfectly
the only problem is that i put very low delay time
to the skills we use and cause conflict with the meditation
i tryed vigor's combo with my hybrid and works perfect
with both trainers
i reduced delay time and....no medi just stop
then i tryed with my nukers ve shield and happend
exaclty the same thing...i raised the delay time and works
perfect once again
if the skill you wanna train has for example 3 secs
cooldown put the delay 3.5 or 4 seconds
and if you wanna train a skill that has realy high
cooldown like 30sec or 120sec or 15 minutes cooldown
dont put on the trainer delay time at all...leave it blank
that worked for me...all those that have the same problem
(no medi when VE<10% ) try this and let us know if it
worked
happy cheating to all

edit : well its morning and i have some brain lag...just saw that "raynardt" figured and wrote the same thing i did
gj raynardt and once again thnx dizzy