Cheating in VAL is in its worst state yet

[Hallucinator]

Originally Posted by Femboys

I'm about to give up on this game because Vanguard just detects almost everything. The other stuff they don't detect, I will never get my hands on

muh give up, find a new healthy hobby trust

[iTexas]

I have not seen anyone get banned for UDP other than a hanful of users who have no idea how to play legit (man bans)

[.MOON.]

Originally Posted by iTexas

I have not seen anyone get banned for UDP other than a hanful of users who have no idea how to play legit (man bans)

It really depends. Sending UDP at normal resolutions like 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x720, etc... will be more safe than sending 100x100, 150x150, 300x300. It matters how it is used!

[iTexas]

Originally Posted by .MOON.

It really depends. Sending UDP at normal resolutions like 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x720, etc... will be more safe than sending 100x100, 150x150, 300x300. It matters how it is used!

Yep!

OP also says makcu is detected...?

I have not seen anyone get banned for makcu unless OP means 1PC makcu users which is just shooting yourself in the foot because the driver is installed on that pc..

[_AlexMercer_]

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Maybe time to play legit instead of cheating in valorant get aimlab spend 24x7 a day training and get better at it

[Xceeze]

Originally Posted by Bodanator

As title says, the current situation is awful.

Regular software cheats whether internal or external have pretty much always been detected for a while now. Anything public will get you scammed or banned, privates DO exist however those get picked off too or offered a C&D.

Valorant has always detected quite literally every single thing on this forum that has a thread. It's just that their anti-cheat refuses to ban people until they reach a certain rank or until they reach report threshold to get delayed faking the appearance of a "manual ban".

Originally Posted by Bodanator

The best way around this was using a private driver, which ACPD themselves stated this was by far the most difficult thing to detect. However, even with these in place using anything on your main PC still ended up in a ban since every DMA user who used to hate on AI/Color suddenly moved over and riot shifted their focus.

ACPD is full of unpaid interns who honestly know jack shit about anti-cheats besides buzzwords and surface level information and have failed to forward every single person I know to Riot because they can't tell who is closeting at all. They're the last source of info you should ever listen to.

Originally Posted by Bodanator

DMA has never not been a complete mess (glad I never wasted any time/money on that crap)

DMA had a golden age a while back where $200 fw from the right chinaman would set you straight for 6+ months, but obviously every anti-cheat has now caught up to that.

Originally Posted by Bodanator

HWID spoofers have also taken a number of different beatings. It is now extremely unlikely to get yourself unbanned and almost impossible to do so without any traces or spending a large amount of money to reconfigure your physical setup. Admittedly, I managed to unban myself recently and don't have as much knowledge in this subject since I didn't get banned on VALORANT for a several year period while DMA was at its height, but I still know from many sources spoofing has only become harder and more providers have resorted to scamming, lying, removing support, etc.

HWID spoofing has never worked ever since TPM chips were patched, you were always playing on a delay ban after that. Plus spoofing your hard drive disk serial isn't possible without a driver (unless you bought a spoofable nvme), always needed to buy a new one. Granted if you have a Gigabyte board you could just swap your drive and be good. People offering TPM spoofs outside of that are just fucking your shit up, if they could really spoof TPM to pass attestation they'd be at Microsoft making 200k a year and not selling a $40 "manual spoof" to people trying to evade a ban in a videogame.

To add on to that, you shouldn't be getting banned that much to require a spoof anyways. If you're getting frequently banned you're buying garbage and getting scammed while drinking the "manual ban" koolaid.

Originally Posted by Bodanator

In my opinion the days of the cap card/ferrum solution are numbered, and VALORANT is the only game that has an anti-cheat that is able to detect and ban users extremely quickly and even those on a setup using 2 PCs. From a technical aspect this is extremely impressive and far beyond anything I've seen from any other AC out there. Sending any video feed over your local network should not be something this easily detectable regardless of if that resolution is cropped or not.

Nothing is on the main pc, nothing is interacting with the game, nothing is being manipulated in a way that raises the suspicions of an anti-cheat as fast as it does with vanguard. Normally these kinds of doomer posts are extremely cringe and come from an uneducated perspective, typically after someone has suffered a series of bans and yet I have cheated on the game since it came out and only feel this way now.

2PC AI with a capture card is now the way to go if you have 0 connections and need something public, it's extremely hard to fuck that up. Also how is streaming video hard to detect.. you literally need a fucking program on your PC running Vanguard that has all the information it needs to make a ban.

Yes Ferrum is on the chopping block because of how long it has been UD, but currently it has had the best streak out of any aim device to hit the market since the B+. Public stuff never lasts forever, but when something quality is in front of you don't shit on it just because you're mad at everything else.

[Toxic..]

Originally Posted by Xceeze

Valorant has always detected quite literally every single thing on this forum that has a thread. It's just that their anti-cheat refuses to ban people until they reach a certain rank or until they reach report threshold to get delayed faking the appearance of a "manual ban".



ACPD is full of unpaid interns who honestly know jack shit about anti-cheats besides buzzwords and surface level information and have failed to forward every single person I know to Riot because they can't tell who is closeting at all. They're the last source of info you should ever listen to.


DMA had a golden age a while back where $200 fw from the right chinaman would set you straight for 6+ months, but obviously every anti-cheat has now caught up to that.


HWID spoofing has never worked ever since TPM chips were patched, you were always playing on a delay ban after that. Plus spoofing your hard drive disk serial isn't possible without a driver (unless you bought a spoofable nvme), always needed to buy a new one. Granted if you have a Gigabyte board you could just swap your drive and be good. People offering TPM spoofs outside of that are just fucking your shit up, if they could really spoof TPM to pass attestation they'd be at Microsoft making 200k a year and not selling a $40 "manual spoof" to people trying to evade a ban in a videogame.

To add on to that, you shouldn't be getting banned that much to require a spoof anyways. If you're getting frequently banned you're buying garbage and getting scammed while drinking the "manual ban" koolaid.


2PC AI with a capture card is now the way to go if you have 0 connections and need something public, it's extremely hard to fuck that up. Also how is streaming video hard to detect.. you literally need a fucking program on your PC running Vanguard that has all the information it needs to make a ban.

Yes Ferrum is on the chopping block because of how long it has been UD, but currently it has had the best streak out of any aim device to hit the market since the B+. Public stuff never lasts forever, but when something quality is in front of you don't shit on it just because you're mad at everything else.

I agree with literally everything here, could't say better

[Draacox]

But.. will my cronus zen work? Aha. It's amazing what the cheesing scene has gotten to these days. The lengths people will go to and the money people will pay to do such things.. I mean, im not any better, I like to cheese here and there, but with all the pivoting to a/c and devs, the states games are getting into to fight cheating and the way A/C and how invasive they are becoming is more of a expensive chore then enjoyable.

I get it, cheating happens then games get harder on it, its a double edge sword and a fight but dam its just lets actually try to play legit and get good.. lol I suck at all fps games.. No skill.

[.MOON.]

Originally Posted by Drakexx89

But.. will my cronus zen work? Aha. It's amazing what the cheesing scene has gotten to these days. The lengths people will go to and the money people will pay to do such things.. I mean, im not any better, I like to cheese here and there, but with all the pivoting to a/c and devs, the states games are getting into to fight cheating and the way A/C and how invasive they are becoming is more of a expensive chore then enjoyable.

I get it, cheating happens then games get harder on it, its a double edge sword and a fight but dam its just lets actually try to play legit and get good.. lol I suck at all fps games.. No skill.

no your cronus zen does macros and that is it. it's a useless paperweight

[Draacox]

Originally Posted by .MOON.

no your cronus zen does macros and that is it. it's a useless paperweight

I don't even own one. I was making a bad joke.

[Idklmao61]

Originally Posted by Xceeze

Valorant has always detected quite literally every single thing on this forum that has a thread. It's just that their anti-cheat refuses to ban people until they reach a certain rank or until they reach report threshold to get delayed faking the appearance of a "manual ban".



ACPD is full of unpaid interns who honestly know jack shit about anti-cheats besides buzzwords and surface level information and have failed to forward every single person I know to Riot because they can't tell who is closeting at all. They're the last source of info you should ever listen to.


DMA had a golden age a while back where $200 fw from the right chinaman would set you straight for 6+ months, but obviously every anti-cheat has now caught up to that.


HWID spoofing has never worked ever since TPM chips were patched, you were always playing on a delay ban after that. Plus spoofing your hard drive disk serial isn't possible without a driver (unless you bought a spoofable nvme), always needed to buy a new one. Granted if you have a Gigabyte board you could just swap your drive and be good. People offering TPM spoofs outside of that are just fucking your shit up, if they could really spoof TPM to pass attestation they'd be at Microsoft making 200k a year and not selling a $40 "manual spoof" to people trying to evade a ban in a videogame.

To add on to that, you shouldn't be getting banned that much to require a spoof anyways. If you're getting frequently banned you're buying garbage and getting scammed while drinking the "manual ban" koolaid.


2PC AI with a capture card is now the way to go if you have 0 connections and need something public, it's extremely hard to fuck that up. Also how is streaming video hard to detect.. you literally need a fucking program on your PC running Vanguard that has all the information it needs to make a ban.

Yes Ferrum is on the chopping block because of how long it has been UD, but currently it has had the best streak out of any aim device to hit the market since the B+. Public stuff never lasts forever, but when something quality is in front of you don't shit on it just because you're mad at everything else.

The only reason to use a ferrum over makcu imo is if your using a mouse with higher polling rates due to a detection vector with makcu

I'm not buying the whole "ferrum is safer than makcu thing" truth is the both use the same concept and method of reporting back to the mouse so if one doesn't pass a manual I assume the other can't

As someone said here already there is other private aiming devices out there and a friend has shown me screenshots of some, not entirely sure who is selling it or where it comes from but I feel like it is actually CypherCircuit's stuff he is the one person on this forum I've seen flexing completely custom aiming devices that do not report back to mouses the same way stuff like makcu's do

[Xceeze]

Originally Posted by Idklmao61

The only reason to use a ferrum over makcu imo is if your using a mouse with higher polling rates due to a detection vector with makcu

I'm not buying the whole "ferrum is safer than makcu thing" truth is the both use the same concept and method of reporting back to the mouse so if one doesn't pass a manual I assume the other can't

As someone said here already there is other private aiming devices out there and a friend has shown me screenshots of some, not entirely sure who is selling it or where it comes from but I feel like it is actually CypherCircuit's stuff he is the one person on this forum I've seen flexing completely custom aiming devices that do not report back to mouses the same way stuff like makcu's do

There are multiple people selling private aiming methods, but they’re just like private cheats lol. Gotta know someone or be trusted to get one

I’ve seen more people get slapped on Makcu vs Ferrum, across all games.

[Femboys]

Originally Posted by Hallucinator

muh give up, find a new healthy hobby trust

To be honest, yep. Or find a new game to cheat on OR wait for a miracle to get invited to an undetected private cheat wink wink

[Xceeze]

Originally Posted by Femboys

To be honest, yep. Or find a new game to cheat on OR wait for a miracle to get invited to an undetected private cheat wink wink

Lol there are like maybe 5 people even in the private scene who can actually work around Vanguard. 99% of “privates” still get waved or detected on review

[.KaiZy]

Originally Posted by Xceeze

There are multiple people selling private aiming methods, but they’re just like private cheats lol. Gotta know someone or be trusted to get one

I’ve seen more people get slapped on Makcu vs Ferrum, across all games.

SPI controller on top.