Windows 11 TPM Discussion

[tehpwnerer69]

Originally Posted by PcGamer.com

One element that Microsoft is positioning as core to Windows 11's whole package is the Trusted Platform Module (TPM 2.0). Here's an explainer of exactly what TPM's doing and why, but one important aspect of it is: it makes life a lot harder for bad actors and means that if a specific piece of hardware or device ID gets banned, you can't just make up a new one and continue hacking away.

Let's take a moment to wipe the tears and discuss how we can best the TPM.
As with everything, if there is a will, there is a way.

Side Discussion:
GDPR Non-compliance by Microsoft with TPM Enforcement?
If I cannot change my HWID, I am personally identifiable by that machine.

Image: Somewhat related

[Cassiebas]

Well, as a hardware engineer, I can confidently say that changing a serial number or device ID will always be possible and should technically be safe when software reads it, or in this case w11 tpm. This new 2.0 TPM surely will impact spoofers in particular though..

[tehpwnerer69]

Originally Posted by Cassiebas

Well, as a hardware engineer, I can confidently say that changing a serial number or device ID will always be possible and should technically be safe when software reads it, or in this case w11 tpm. This new 2.0 TPM surely will impact spoofers in particular though..

Given that the new TPM binds a specific value, it could be said that any HWID using only that value, is identifiable.

You would need to swap out your entire MB to essentially change your trusted id

[Ghosts117]

can't you just hook the TPM and change the serials like any other hardware?

[tehpwnerer69]

Originally Posted by Dragx_fps

can't you just hook the TPM and change the serials like any other hardware?

No TPM 2.0 is tamper-proof as far as I am aware, so no hooking (otherwise malware would)
You will need to replace your motherboard entirely or bypass the usage of the module on installation of W11

Originally Posted by PcGamer.com

While the first unofficial TPM bypasses involved downloading software from Github, the one Microsoft itself dished out is fairly simple. Just press Windows+R, and type regedit to get the Registry Editor up.

From there, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup from the top bar, and right-click the main panel, selecting create a new DWORD (32-bit) Value.

Call it AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU and set its value to 1.

But I have no idea how long this will be permissible

[KawaiChicken]

Can't you just downgrade to win10 - spoof MB - upgrade to win 11?

[tehpwnerer69]

Originally Posted by KawaiChicken

Can't you just downgrade to win10 - spoof MB - upgrade to win 11?

I do believe so yes but as this will become standard on PCs everywhere, reversion will become less of an option down the track.

So then it would require you to format, downgrade then upgrade.

And as I mentioned, if they remove that from the registry, then what options are we left with? Running an outdated windows machine or finding a way to spoof the TPM.

Hence the thread, I'm sure if we put our collective minds together, we can overcome this before it becomes a real issue.

#requestingmove
If any Mods wanna put this in the appropriate section.
Even though this is somewhat relevant to VanGuard, it's more relevant to Windows in general.

[LukeManolia]

Originally Posted by tehpwnerer69

I do believe so yes but as this will become standard on PCs everywhere, reversion will become less of an option down the track.

So then it would require you to format, downgrade then upgrade.

And as I mentioned, if they remove that from the registry, then what options are we left with? Running an outdated windows machine or finding a way to spoof the TPM.

Hence the thread, I'm sure if we put our collective minds together, we can overcome this before it becomes a real issue.

#requestingmove
If any Mods wanna put this in the appropriate section.
Even though this is somewhat relevant to VanGuard, it's more relevant to Windows in general.

https://secret.club/2021/06/28/windows11-tpms.html

[tehpwnerer69]

Originally Posted by LukeManolia

An unknown link registered in 2020 with Cloudflare Nameservers and hidden registration data.

I'm not going to click that.

Quote it.

[LukeManolia]

Originally Posted by tehpwnerer69

An unknown link registered in 2020 with Cloudflare Nameservers and hidden registration data.

I'm not going to click that.

Quote it.

if you dont know what secret.club is, then just stay away from tpm and cheating in general.

[tehpwnerer69]

Originally Posted by LukeManolia

if you dont know what secret.club is, then just stay away from tpm and cheating in general.

Hahaha
Funny guy.

Enjoy your day lad.
Try not to get infected.

Edit:
I will mention I was one of the first original Valorant Cheat devs who built many ring3 mechanics you all still use today.

Just because I don't lurk on suspicious sites, doesn't mean I don't know how to exploit game mechanics.

The logic of "if you dont know what secret.club is, then just stay away from tpm and cheating in general" is flawed from the ground up.

I would highly advise spending your time on constructive criticism rather than keeping up appearances.

[Ghosts117]

Originally Posted by LukeManolia

that's a very interesting article, who are these secret club guys? they seem to know their **** DRM is a scary concept but PS5/Xbox's don't really have cheats like ESP/AIMBOT so I can see why Microsoft is doing this

[LukeManolia]

Originally Posted by Dragx_fps

that's a very interesting article, who are these secret club guys? they seem to know their **** DRM is a scary concept but PS5/Xbox's don't really have cheats like ESP/AIMBOT so I can see why Microsoft is doing this

former cheat developers and in general experienced devs