Laonar Online | Cap 80 CH Only | Auto Events | Job/Quest Based | Opening 19.03.17

_HouseMusicx3 · 03/09/2017, 13:58

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Originally Posted by tsqaured

No one forbids it to play like that.
But most of you on the BETA cried how OP INT is and wanted vigors to compensate for it.

When you play this constant shieldswitching style as STR glavier, glavier is like unkillable + 5% vigors. So i'd consider it OP too.

Why not just add a cooldown on shieldswitching then? ^^

Trying to give a suggestion how to ''buff'' bladers.
By letting people think how to use their shield.

I mean you know someone down, they switch to shield - they block 2 of your stabs and they are like full HP again.
2nd knockdown, they block again. If you add a cooldown to the switching they cant eq their shield again within 10 seconds so the blader can do freely his dmg.

This knockdown and stab is kinda the main dmg of a blader.

Because it makes no sense at all. You are trying to give s/s,bladers no counter play.

tsqaured · 03/09/2017, 14:03

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Originally Posted by _HouseMusicx3

Because it makes no sense at all. You are trying to give s/s,bladers no counter play.

If you read and think out of the box instead of straight forward you see it's just a cooldown for switching to shield within 10-20 seconds.

No counterplay = removing shield completely.
You still counterplay bladers or s/s by switching to your shield when 1st knockdown but if they knock you down within the cooldown you can't switch.
They will do the same damage on you like as you wear your bow/glavie/spear.
It's just to give bladers a chance to do stab dmg without those blocks, 1 block is easy 25% HP potted.
25% HP dmg is ALOT of work for a blader

Remember, if the 2nd knockdown skill doesn't success you wont be knocked down so they use stone smash or light chain.
Your shield will be off cooldown and they knockdown you again and you can use your shield again.

Look at it as a suggestion to balance instead of going like OMG NO I CANT USE MY SHIELD EVERY SECOND!
Or do you want that they give bladers a damage increase buff? STR requirement.

Spoiler

tsqaured · 03/09/2017, 14:14

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Have had too much salt?

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Originally Posted by bloodymoon27

God, all of you pussies crying, shut the fuck up. Everyone trying to buff the character they play as much as possible.

I play INT spear mate.
Don't worry, wont play blader.
Just giving a suggestion.

lukasjeaa · 03/09/2017, 14:19

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Originally Posted by tsqaured

Have had too much salt?

I play INT spear mate.
Don't worry, wont play blader.
Just giving a suggestion.

If you want a buff to bladers damage who are the only class with Division atm (and S/S ofc) + are unkillable as fawk: Just buff the phy attk. Dmg buff from the Summit & Depth Bicheon Force skill OR add a passive with or without STR requirement that increases your physical Dmg. However that shield cooldown is stupid imo

tsqaured · 03/09/2017, 14:31

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Originally Posted by lukasjeaa

If you want a buff to bladers damage who are the only class with Division atm (and S/S ofc) + are unkillable as fawk: Just buff the phy attk. Dmg buff from the Summit & Depth Bicheon Force skill OR add a passive with or without STR requirement that increases your physical Dmg. However that shield cooldown is stupid imo

Jup, that's what I also suggest 2/3 posts ago in a ''spoiler''.
To buff that shield skill which incr the phy atk pwr.
Instead of the shield cd.

About debuffing as bicheon.. Most people: Bowers/glaviers run force anyway so they can cure it and de buffs r gone.
Spear users got this 7% chance decreased, so 13% prob is left.(I suggested on this one to remove the Required item: Spear, so it would be only heuks 80 and int 350).
If a INT spear removes his spear it will be 20% prob again.

bloodymoon27 · 03/09/2017, 14:36

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Originally Posted by tsqaured

Jup, that's what I also suggest 2/3 posts ago in a ''spoiler''.
To buff that shield skill which incr the phy atk pwr.
Instead of the shield cd.

About debuffing as bicheon.. Most people: Bowers/glaviers run force anyway so they can cure it and de buffs r gone.
Spear users got this 7% chance decreased, so 13% prob is left.(I suggested on this one to remove the Required item: Spear, so it would be only heuks 80 and int 350).
If a INT spear removes his spear it will be 20% prob again.

I am not saying some of your suggestions are not good, I am saying that too many changes will enrage a lot of people and may lead to most of them leaving and that they have no time on top of that. We had fun before without much of a balance we can do it now without having a perfect one.
PS: If you are playing int spear do you have any idea if the cold nuke is as strong as the lighting one or did they not change it ?

piteret · 03/09/2017, 14:47

STR/INT Uniques?

DubbedToDeath · 03/09/2017, 15:18

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Originally Posted by bloodymoon27

God, all of you pussies crying, shut the fuck up. Everyone trying to buff the character they play as much as possible. We have played the basic sro how it is for years now without "balanced" skills and there was always a diversity in characters. Yet after the balancing always somehow people are going much more for a certain build rather than before. Doesn't sound like much of a balance to me.
Everyone knows that 95% of everything is your set and wep and not so much your build if you know how to play it. To all those people bitching, in case you don't like the server shut the fuck up and leave, feminine drama queens. Did your parents not love you enough so you want to feel special by threatening the gm you and your "4 guilds TURK KINQ" will not join unless he does what you want? Nobody gives a fuck about you and your non-existent friends, stop posting irrelevant bs to make the character you want stand out.
The developers should focus on having a stable server now, lag free and bug free. The time for major build altercation is over, if you want to leave or not join at all feel free to do so quietly without screaming for attention like a 13 year old justin bieber fan girl.

That's kinda harass and rude but to be honest, I have to agree to the most of it.
The thing is that people got nothing to do right now in beta which ends up in boredom-->posting 24/7 about stuff which has been mentioned several times already (and most likely got noted down by some GM). Two days to go you, so nicely called, feminine drama queens, just stay cool and wait for its grand opening. Every build has its pros and cons which is good in my opinion. Dunno why people discuss that much about certain builds even after a few years of pserver history - most didn't even had anything balanced yet they were fun to play.

marlongrey · 03/09/2017, 16:41

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Originally Posted by bloodymoon27

***, all of you ******* crying, shut the **** up. Everyone trying to buff the character they play as much as possible. We have played the basic sro how it is for years now without "balanced" skills and there was always a diversity in characters. Yet after the balancing always somehow people are going much more for a certain build rather than before. Doesn't sound like much of a balance to me.
Everyone knows that 95% of everything is your set and wep and not so much your build if you know how to play it. To all those people ********, in case you don't like the server shut the **** up and leave, feminine drama queens. Did your parents not love you enough so you want to feel special by threatening the gm you and your "4 guilds TURK KINQ" will not join unless he does what you want? Nobody gives a **** about you and your non-existent friends, stop posting irrelevant bs to make the character you want stand out.
The developers should focus on having a stable server now, lag free and bug free. The time for major build altercation is over, if you want to leave or not join at all feel free to do so quietly without screaming for attention like a 13 year old justin bieber fan girl.

+1

piteret · 03/09/2017, 17:45

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Originally Posted by piteret

STR/INT Uniques?

ANSWER ME FFS, PLS...

_HouseMusicx3 · 03/09/2017, 17:51

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Originally Posted by piteret

ANSWER ME FFS, PLS...

There is a search option you lazy....

artor1us · 03/09/2017, 18:09

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Originally Posted by piteret

ANSWER ME FFS, PLS...

Already answered 200 times, we won't add INT/STR uniques

piteret · 03/09/2017, 18:13

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Originally Posted by artor1us

Already answered 200 times, we won't add INT/STR uniques

Sry for interrupting, ty for answer the 201st time

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Originally Posted by _HouseMusicx3

There is a search option you lazy....

I'm glad that you wasted your priceless time for such a *** as me, ty

Tejesemberke · 03/09/2017, 18:25

This server looks promissing, but what the hell is this cockfight in the comment section ?

lukasjeaa · 03/09/2017, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Tejesemberke

This server looks promissing, but what the hell is this cockfight in the comment section ?

GM's are doing a real good job so far, very good communication with the community but i guess an epvp thread without shittalk is just not possible in this pserver community

Ok so, i actually pvp'd a couple of rounds vs a spear with non stop lightning chain and flying stone smash and its almost impossible to get anything other than bleed on him. Every pvp round was 2-3mins (basically after snow ended) and i only ever got division on him once, on some rounds not even once and when i did, he instantly pilled it. Considering you already nerfed that passive and its still hard as fawk to debuff that guy, might just remove that passive. Not to mention Spear/Glaive by the skills itself is already the strongest in D8 slightly ahead of bicheon and bow behind (you gave bow that passive and Bicheon has the new skill which helps a lot i guess). Also consider adding Stun to force as Division would mean every STR goes force and for those who want division with their glaive they can go Dual build Blade/glaive. If you add Stun you help out the Force builds but not making them OP as in all the other server with Division.(edited)